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Crepuscular Ray
08 December 2024 16:51:54
Today is much worse than yesterday in Nottingham. Blustery heavy rain at times. Wind gusting to 45 mph, same as yesterday 
Jerry

Edinburgh, in the frost hollow below Blackford Hill

scillydave
08 December 2024 18:11:41

As Darren said the most notable thing here has been the length of time the strong wind has lasted. Two days of almost constant 20-30mph winds. The gusts were never that high here only once or twice reaching 50mph. The worst has been in the early hours on both nights. Quite a few 40 mph+ gusts but thankfully no trees down or structural damage. Glad really because the horrors of the '87 storm and the memory of the damage to my house and car still cause trepidation when I hear the wind getting that strong. I suppose when you have experienced 100mph wind in your driveway this would be a bit of a relief!

The Met Office did well with its warnings and just as well it issued a "red" for the most westerly areas as there may have been more loss of life. Although over this side there were no or few 60-70mph gusts as predicted it wouldn't have taken much more, so better to be safe than sorry on this one.

Originally Posted by: fairweather 

Yes hats off to the Met Office for their warnings - spot on.

And also fair play to yhe government for sending out the alert via phones - I know a few people who were in the red area who didn't know there was a red warning until the government alert came through. It both informed and underscored the seriousness of it and thoug I've no way yo prove it, I'm sure that it saved lives.

On the longevity of the wind - Aberporth had 9 hours straight with gusts above 80mph. Even for an exposed site that's extraordinary .


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Jim-55
08 December 2024 18:25:03
It's been a pretty calm day here today, a bit chilly but ok, the wife and I had a bit of Christmas shopping to finish off so had a ride around to see any damage, none to be seen but Longleat was closed due to fallen trees I was told. My brother near Newton Abbot, Devon said many trees down and a lot of damage to properties, he's been inundated all day with calls for repairs to outbuilding's and fences so seems we were lucky here, Mendip hills barrier works it's magic again.
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08 December 2024 18:46:55
It’s been a filthy day here today with blustery rain all day.   We’ve had a couple of trees down locally and a lot of twigs on roads, but I think more due to wind direction rather than wind speed.  It isn’t as strong now and it’s coming more from the east. 
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StoneCroze
09 December 2024 07:15:41
Still gusting to 31 Kts according to the latest observation at the airport. Forecast is still giving gusts to 45 Kts.


Alderney, Channel Islands. (previously known as Beaufort)
Retron
09 December 2024 07:20:26

Still gusting to 31 Kts according to the latest observation at the airport. Forecast is still giving gusts to 45 Kts.

Originally Posted by: StoneCroze 

Yes, the storm may be hundreds of miles away now but the effects go on! It was windy here all night, and it will if anything get stronger today - back into the 40s (mph, I don't do knots). Rain on and off all day today too in that strong NE'ly wind, delightful.

More of the same tomorrow, then finally on Wednesday winds fall below 30mph - just. It has to be one of the longest runs of windy weather I've ever seen, normally once the low buggers off there's a lull - but not this time!


Leysdown, north Kent
StoneCroze
09 December 2024 09:32:31
First aircraft in three days just touched down. There will be quite a backlog of mail and passengers.
Alderney, Channel Islands. (previously known as Beaufort)
idj20
09 December 2024 10:02:23

Yes, the storm may be hundreds of miles away now but the effects go on! It was windy here all night, and it will if anything get stronger today - back into the 40s (mph, I don't do knots). Rain on and off all day today too in that strong NE'ly wind, delightful.

More of the same tomorrow, then finally on Wednesday winds fall below 30mph - just. It has to be one of the longest runs of windy weather I've ever seen, normally once the low buggers off there's a lull - but not this time!

Originally Posted by: Retron 

If only the 850s are in the -15 C, what a waste of what is the perfect NE airflow at this time of the year. 


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09 December 2024 10:07:36

First aircraft in three days just touched down. There will be quite a backlog of mail and passengers.

Originally Posted by: StoneCroze 

The main supplies are still at Poole Quay. Fingers crossed.


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Jiries
09 December 2024 10:27:54

If only the 850s are in the -15 C, what a waste of what is the perfect NE airflow at this time of the year. 

Originally Posted by: idj20 

Agreed it a very stupid storm that not give us cold and snow storms once winds veer to NW to NE.   If was in the middle east it will snow no matter what source it come from not fussy as this country climate is.  Most often the none named storms there started as rain then turn to snow to give sufficent snow depths then proper cold air arrive with sunny cold nights afterward.   Arwen gave me 8cm of snow here and that storm was not a big one as this pathetic one is.

ARTzeman
09 December 2024 11:33:09
Darragh stopped me going to my Concert at Writhlington. Did not fancy the trip. Many did so. 

I heeded the warnings. 




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Retron
10 December 2024 04:57:13
Still going here - rain for much of yesterday, more rain overnight, still raining now, still gusting into the 30s, with a gust of 42 just up the road four hours ago! Not much change forecast today, either, it's not until tomorrow morning that winds will finally ease back a bit.
Leysdown, north Kent
StoneCroze
10 December 2024 07:19:38

Still going here - rain for much of yesterday, more rain overnight, still raining now, still gusting into the 30s, with a gust of 42 just up the road four hours ago! Not much change forecast today, either, it's not until tomorrow morning that winds will finally ease back a bit.

Originally Posted by: Retron 

Same here, and I'm sure I can hear icy bits in the rain as it batters the windows.

Waiting to see if our ship gets in with fresh food, right on the limits.

EDIT: As I thought, heading down to Guernsey then Jersey. Might see her tomorrow evening on the way back to Poole.


Alderney, Channel Islands. (previously known as Beaufort)
Roger Parsons
12 December 2024 07:59:16
When is a storm not a storm?

I wonder in penny-pinching over £500 will prove a good move? I shall remember "Ageas" when I next renew my insurance.

'My insurers say Storm Darragh was not a storm'

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/clyj6y10y15o 


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Retron
12 December 2024 08:03:51

When is a storm not a storm?

I wonder in penny-pinching over £500 will prove a good move? I shall remember "Ageas" when I next renew my insurance.

'My insurers say Storm Darragh was not a storm'

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/clyj6y10y15o 

Originally Posted by: Roger Parsons 

Fantastic. I bet the other insurers will be watching closely.

The irony, of course, is that one of the reasons naming lows came in was to make claiming for storm damage easier!

As as we've seen with both Bert and Darragh, it's the longevity of the strong winds as much as the absolute max that caused the damage. Darragh also saw that marked change in direction. The insurers wouldn't care about that of course, hiding behind that nice 55mph figure!


Leysdown, north Kent
Gandalf The White
12 December 2024 08:13:18

When is a storm not a storm?

I wonder in penny-pinching over £500 will prove a good move? I shall remember "Ageas" when I next renew my insurance.

'My insurers say Storm Darragh was not a storm'

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/clyj6y10y15o 

Originally Posted by: Roger Parsons 

Surely nobody knows what the actual wind speed was on his roof?  That aside, I’d like to see the actual policy wording.


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Ally Pally Snowman
12 December 2024 08:19:04

When is a storm not a storm?

I wonder in penny-pinching over £500 will prove a good move? I shall remember "Ageas" when I next renew my insurance.

'My insurers say Storm Darragh was not a storm'

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/clyj6y10y15o 

Originally Posted by: Roger Parsons 

Scumbags!


Bishop's Stortford 85m ASL.
Brian Gaze
12 December 2024 08:19:26

When is a storm not a storm?

I wonder in penny-pinching over £500 will prove a good move? I shall remember "Ageas" when I next renew my insurance.

'My insurers say Storm Darragh was not a storm'

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/clyj6y10y15o 

Originally Posted by: Roger Parsons 

One of the most common requests I get asked via the website is "what was the wind speed at location X on date Y".


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NMA
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12 December 2024 08:27:16

When is a storm not a storm?

I wonder in penny-pinching over £500 will prove a good move? I shall remember "Ageas" when I next renew my insurance.

'My insurers say Storm Darragh was not a storm'

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/clyj6y10y15o 

Originally Posted by: Roger Parsons 

Force 9 or thereabouts on the Beaufort scale I believe. It has to be Force 10 then for a claim to be valid.

Now the media are involved I'm sure they will back down like the car park owners do with the five minute rule.

https://weathernet.co.uk/ 

FWIW my car is insured by Ageas. Not a good advert for them but perhaps this applies to all insurers.

This will be an interesting case for loss adjusters who get the contract. And forensics hard at work as I type.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cd75e5jpy8eo 

(The BBC were very quick to edit when I pointed out that the journalist wrote that Thomas Hardy trained as an apprentice architect in 1956 at 16 years old.)


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South Dorset

Elevation 60m 197ft

Essan
12 December 2024 11:14:52

Surely nobody knows what the actual wind speed was on his roof?  That aside, I’d like to see the actual policy wording.

Originally Posted by: Gandalf The White 

Exactly.   They cannot possibly demonstrate what the wind speed was at that specific location.   It therefore comes down to how the policy is worded. 

Unfortunately trivial things like house insurance were not something I got involved in when I was in insurance (and it was, in any case, last century).


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