moomin75
04 May 2023 10:30:53
Originally Posted by: picturesareme 

He says the same crap every year - like a broken record. Come the autumn he will start putting out his usual winter is over crud.



I do air on the side of negativity, but I am always happy to accept criticism when it's deserved...which it often (but not always) is.

I don't always paint a negative picture, and if I genuinely believe we are in a good place, I will say so....

I just don't like the pattern that has emerged, and we are paying a very heavy price for the late winter SSW.

I think we can safely write off much of May as particularly pleasant.

Of course, we won't know what is to come, but the pattern is stuck in a bit of a rut at the moment.
Witney, Oxfordshire
100m ASL
Jiries
04 May 2023 20:01:01
Originally Posted by: moomin75 

I do air on the side of negativity, but I am always happy to accept criticism when it's deserved...which it often (but not always) is.

I don't always paint a negative picture, and if I genuinely believe we are in a good place, I will say so....

I just don't like the pattern that has emerged, and we are paying a very heavy price for the late winter SSW.

I think we can safely write off much of May as particularly pleasant.

Of course, we won't know what is to come, but the pattern is stuck in a bit of a rut at the moment.



Last 2 days had been mostly sunny and temperatures of 17-18C should had been in March warm spell so 2 months late because of stupid SSW.  First time indoor temps had reached 20C yesterday and today briefly since Feb was the last time hit 19.5C   

We do really need a big hope that no SSW next year or banned i wish! 
Chunky Pea
05 May 2023 22:25:32
Originally Posted by: Jiries 

Last 2 days had been mostly sunny and temperatures of 17-18C should had been in March warm spell so 2 months late because of stupid SSW.  First time indoor temps had reached 20C yesterday and today briefly since Feb was the last time hit 19.5C   

We do really need a big hope that no SSW next year or banned i wish! 


To be honest, I think SSW events are overhyped and overplayed so I'm not really sure how much, if any, after effect the winter SSW would be having in the current pattern. This spring so far has been very average and boring (more so than usual) in my opinion. 
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moomin75
06 May 2023 18:46:10
Originally Posted by: Chunky Pea 

To be honest, I think SSW events are overhyped and overplayed so I'm not really sure how much, if any, after effect the winter SSW would be having in the current pattern. This spring so far has been very average and boring (more so than usual) in my opinion. 


It's been far from average CP, at least not from a precipitation point.

Average temperatures yes, but it's been extremely wet in many areas.

That said, I agree with you about the SSW.
My personal view is, as is always the case in this country, Mother Nature is making up for the lack of rain during last year by topping things up.

Hopefully the rain will relent at some point, because it's already decimated the first couple of weeks of the cricket season.

 
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100m ASL
tierradelfuego
06 May 2023 19:27:18
Originally Posted by: moomin75 


My personal view is, as is always the case in this country, Mother Nature is making up for the lack of rain during last year by topping things up.
 



With all due respect, I can't get to grips why you always go on about this Mother Nature stuff, whatever that may be, and trying not to be derogatory to you personally, it's just guff.

At the end of the day we live on island predominated by mild, moist SW winds. In our lifetime, at least, we always will... who knows beyond that, we don't. That's the meteorological science behind it. We will never see something that other countries see like a 3 or 5 or even like in Australia as an example, a 10 year drought, it just won't happen. We also won't see Mediterranean summers or continental winters as others think should be normal because Greece is always hotter than here.

Whatever it appears to be, it really isn't Mother Nature balancing shit, it's just our climate, would you agree?
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West Berkshire Downs AONB
135m ASL
moomin75
06 May 2023 19:48:47
Yes, kind of what I was alluding to.

We do not have droughts, we have occasional dry spells in a largely wet climate....its as simple as that.
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100m ASL
doctormog
06 May 2023 19:48:55
If only we could get some SWly winds I’d be happy!
tierradelfuego
06 May 2023 19:59:40
Originally Posted by: doctormog 

If only we could get some SWly winds I’d be happy!



I'll have a chat with Mother Nature tomorrow, when she gets up, will see what she can do 😏
Bucklebury
West Berkshire Downs AONB
135m ASL
doctormog
06 May 2023 20:08:56
Originally Posted by: tierradelfuego 

I'll have a chat with Mother Nature tomorrow, when she gets up, will see what she can do 😏



🤣🤣
moomin75
06 May 2023 20:58:34
Originally Posted by: tierradelfuego 

I'll have a chat with Mother Nature tomorrow, when she gets up, will see what she can do 😏


Cool. While you're doing so, can you ask her for a bit of drier weather so I can finally get on with trying to prepare a cricket pitch.

It's been completely impossible to do so this "spring".
Witney, Oxfordshire
100m ASL
DEW
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07 May 2023 07:55:05
Originally Posted by: moomin75 

Cool. While you're doing so, can you ask her for a bit of drier weather so I can finally get on with trying to prepare a cricket pitch.

It's been completely impossible to do so this "spring".



http://www.wxmaps.org/pix/prec4  is X-rated for you😟- a local spot for the heaviest rain in Britain and indeed for most of Europe carefully sited over Oxfordshire in week 2.
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doctormog
07 May 2023 07:58:34
My moan? It has essentially been like this for a week here and around 7 to 8°C for most of the time.

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moomin75
07 May 2023 08:23:15
Originally Posted by: DEW 

http://www.wxmaps.org/pix/prec4  is X-rated for you😟- a local spot for the heaviest rain in Britain and indeed for most of Europe carefully sited over Oxfordshire in week 2.

 
Indeed.
I am writing off the rest of May to be honest.
Maybe it'll improve for June, but I doubt it.
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100m ASL
Jiries
07 May 2023 09:47:36
Notice today max will be first 20C and sounded it like desperation to get warmer but SSW are refusing to go away with unwelcome rain and cold that effected fully this Spring.  Getting a 20C easy no problem get it before in March or April but now very hard to get it.
doctormog
07 May 2023 09:49:22
Possibly another single figure max here today 
richardabdn
07 May 2023 10:04:09
Not just the worst Spring I've ever endured but the worst of any season. It just gets more and more ludicrously vile with each ridiculously unpleasant and depressing week of abject horror that passes devoid of anything remotely normal or seasonable for the time of year 🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮

Should be the sunniest time of year and the past 10 days have produced a total of 11.8 hours of sun and on it goes with another day of totally useless and preposterous 8C murk. The only possible explanation for this seems to be the result of a disastrous Frankenstein cloud seeding experiment gone wrong. Certainly doesn't feel that this unremitting garbage, which is so alien and abnormal for any any time of year never mind early May, could have arose naturally 🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮

Not only is it the lowest total I've ever recorded for a 10-day spell in April or May but only once has the 10-day total ending in 6th January been lower which was 2015/16 with 5.2 hours. Next lowest is 2017/18 with 12.6 hours. Utterly surreal given how dull the festive periods have been in recent years 🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮

Today will also be the 16th consecutive day of below average temperatures, the highest in that time being an absolutely dire 12.2C. The 30th March is the only day to reach 15C this year with the next warmest after that being 14.4C back on 24th January showing once again what an utterly catastrophic and disastrous car crash of a spring this has been when even basic levels of warmth, that were achieved in the depths of winter, cannot be attained 🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮

However, the disgusting lack of warmth pales into insignificance compared to the absolutely stinking awful weekends which are just off the scale in terms of sheer unadulterated horror. Completely unusable write-offs week after week like nothing on earth I've ever experienced. A cold, bleak, sunless miserable run without precedent at any time of year. A draining, tiresome ultra depressing danger to health 🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮

Only vaguely decent weekend all year was way back on 11th/12th February. Horrific all throughout spring and continuing to get worse in defiance of any rational expectation. Last weekend was the first completely sunless weekend at any time of year since 12th/13th December 2020 and we could be looking at yet another one this weekend which is just mind-bogglingly awful given that there hasn't been back-to-back sunless weekends since February 2011. Not even early January 2016 - the worst period of weather in living memory - could manage that so to achieve that now would really say something about this unprecedented wrist-slittlingly awful excuse for a spring 🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮

Four completely sunless weekend days in April - equalling the most I've recorded in any month of the year - has resulted in daily weekend sunshine averaging a thoroughly disgusting 2.51 hours -  previous lowest in my 16 years of records was 4.21 hours in 2014. To beat that revolting spring by such a huge margin is beyond horrific. Just can't do anything outdoors at all. Might as well be living in Ny Alesund. I'm sure it's sunnier there. Even the Faeroes average 5 hours at this time of year, a total achieved only once in the past 10 days here of weather unfit for any habitable land 🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮

2023 is proving once again there is no longer a floor as to how low things can sink in the weather wasteland that is the 21st Century. To describe this as a year from hell doesn't even begin to do justice as to how insufferably poor it has been. An endurance test that only the toughest can survive. Feels like it's going to beat even notoriously bad years like 1985 and 1993 for unremittingly dire weather throughout the summer half. Just can't get anything remotely acceptable even for one day 🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮


 
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Bolty
07 May 2023 16:36:25
Not been a bad first week of May here, to be fair. Overall, probably very typical for the time of year with average temperatures. There's been some rain and showers but also a fair amount of sunshine too. Today has been lovely: 18.9°C and long spells of sunshine.

I'm just hoping tomorrow's rain doesn't come off or is weaker than expected though.
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johncs2016
07 May 2023 18:48:05
Originally Posted by: Bolty 

Not been a bad first week of May here, to be fair. Overall, probably very typical for the time of year with average temperatures. There's been some rain and showers but also a fair amount of sunshine too. Today has been lovely: 18.9°C and long spells of sunshine.

I'm just hoping tomorrow's rain doesn't come off or is weaker than expected though.



I'm generally not too bothered about it raining here as our rainfall totals have been very low during recent months, especially in comparison with the rest of the UK so if anything, more rainfall will be greatly welcomed here if that then helps to stave off any possibility of any water shortages arising during the summer from any ongoing lack of rainfall here.

What I am more concerned about for here is the overall pattern because after such a long period which has been dominated by easterly winds, it would be nice to be actually get back to a westerly pattern of weather for a change.

As I write, we are now less than a month away from the start of the meteorological summer and yet, our highest temperature of the year so far continues to be no higher than around 15°C which is absolutely pathetic for this time, especially when you consider that our highest temperatures of many of our most recent winter months have tended to be not much lower than that.😡

Our usual prevailing wind direction as we are taught in our geography classes at school, is from the SW (at least, that used to be the case when I was at school which is going back an awful lot of years now).

Nowadays, there is hardly ever any shortage of those westerlies during the winter months when they are bringing in mild air from the Atlantic Ocean and thus, depriving us of that cold and snowy weather which we usually crave for at that time of the year.

When we actually want those westerlies to be around though, it then becomes a completely different story. If we did actually get those westerlies just now, it might still not necessarily be sunny here, but we would at least have a better chance of getting some warmth from that as a result of those winds blowing offshore here. As a result, this is probably a good example of a time when we could do with that sort of westerly setup but as is often the case, these westerlies have now been posted missing in recent times, now that I have been looking for such a setup.

Of course, the reason which we have been in such an easterly dominated period of weather just recently has been down to those Atlantic weather systems passing to our south and thus delivering a lot of wet weather to our south, whilst it has been much drier here due to that blocking high to our north.

In order for us to get into that more westerly pattern which I'm looking for, we need to be on the southern flank of those low pressure systems, rather than being to the north of them. That in turn, would also bring us onto the warm side of the Atlantic jet stream and that is what I would actually like to start seeing from now on.
 
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doctormog
07 May 2023 18:50:35
Originally Posted by: doctormog 



  



Spot the difference.
richardabdn
08 May 2023 17:00:05
 It's just the nightmare of June 2007 all over again. The fog and murk only disappears when the rain arrives 👺🤢

This extra holiday is as welcome and wanted as a hamper filled with various kinds of animal💩. Working is more enjoyable than being off in this sick disgusting garbage and that is exactly what I did today. So little opportunities to do the things I enjoy it's an endurance test and an utterly miserable life no better than slavery 🤢🤢🤮

10 completely sunless days during April/May has already beaten my previous record of nine in 2012 and six of those were at the weekends. It's just breathtakingly vile like nothing on earth even the most pessimistic could expect at this time of year.

Dullest first week of May in my records smashing the previous record which was set only last year 🙄. 2021 was poor as well, with even lower temperatures than this year, so that's three years on the trot that, what should be the best time of year is as grim as the worst. Although technically that's not true this year as no part of the year should be anywhere near as repulsive as this.  That's reflected in there only being one November in the past 17 years where the first week was duller than this grotesque May -2019. Not even November 2014 the dullest month I have ever recorded started this bad 😲🤮

First Week of May Sunshine Hours:

2008    64.2
2020    61.3
2017    58.8
2011    58.1
2007    53.7
2013    52.4
2009    44.4
2012    42.1
2021    39.0
2018    38.7
2015    36.8
2014    35.0
2019    32.2
2016    30.0
2010    24.1
2022    23.7
2023    11.8

First Week of November:

2020    28.4
2013    28.1
2012    27.6
2011    27.1
2008    25.8
2006    24.9
2015    24.1
2010    23.5
2021    23.1
2017    22.7
2009    21.9
2022    21.9
2007    21.4
2016    21.2
2018    16.0
2014    15.6
2019    5.4

🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢

A sick disgusting joke. I'd rather be living in any other era than the tedious seasonless hell of a weather vacuum that is the 21st Century. Constantly unpleasant, uninteresting and unfulfilling like no other era in recorded history.
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