Bolty
23 July 2021 15:19:42

My time-lapse for yesterday - a hot and sultry day as the heat wave peaks (31.5°C), before a thunderstorm skirts by to the west in the evening:

https://youtu.be/vLWNzoGfdxc


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KevBrads1
23 July 2021 15:53:17

My thermometer went into Liverpool Airport mode yesterday, 34.4C it peaked.


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23 July 2021 16:07:00

What a contrast in the UK today! A classic NW/SE split ........ but in reverse!


Shoeburyness peaked at 20C today while Castlederg peaked at 30C 


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Retron
23 July 2021 16:12:36

Originally Posted by: GezM 


What a contrast in the UK today! A classic NW/SE split ........ but in reverse!


Shoeburyness peaked at 20C today while Castlederg peaked at 30C 



They're welcome to it! 21.5C here (not far from Shoeburyness) and it was perfectly pleasant weather - ideal for mowing the lawn, for example, which was handy as it'll chuck it down tomorrow.


(I always like to mow the lawn the day before some rain comes... I generally keep green grass for longer as a result!)


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Ally Pally Snowman
23 July 2021 18:01:25

Castlederg peaked at 30.1c so 7 days of 30c. Not bad,  will we get to 30c again this summer?


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moomin75
23 July 2021 18:07:53

Originally Posted by: Ally Pally Snowman 


Castlederg peaked at 30.1c so 7 days of 30c. Not bad,  will we get to 30c again this summer?


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Absolutely no chance of another 30c until next June or July I would say.


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Chunky Pea
23 July 2021 18:14:17

Originally Posted by: Lionel Hutz 


 


Yes, I am, though the days when I actually enjoy sitting on one near me are limited! And you are right of course about our subjectivity when it comes to weather. Part of what I like about this hot spell is the novelty of it. We know that we'll be back to normal next week. 


Finally, I'm sceptical about the Pacific heat having anything to do with our current spell, though on paper it seems to fit with the somewhat unusual character of this heatwave. Whatever chance of weather conditions arriving on our shores from the Eastern American coast without being totally modified, I think it's too much of a stretch to see a weather system arriving here intact not just across the Atlantic but all the way across the North American continent too.


 



Not really saying it had anything to do with it, but even it is was, it would have been well modified by the time it got here. 


Still another couple of days of this heat to go, but while it has been insufferable hot, I'm actually not sure if any records, in terms of high maxima or minima, have been broken here in the Republic. Perhaps on a localised station level but in terms of absolutes, all seems untouched. 


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Taylor1740
23 July 2021 18:15:24

Originally Posted by: moomin75 


Absolutely no chance of another 30c until next June or July I would say.



I don't know about 'no chance' but doesn't look like happening before mid-August and probably becomes a fair bit rarer after that anyway.


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Caz
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23 July 2021 18:33:17

Originally Posted by: Retron 


They're welcome to it! 21.5C here (not far from Shoeburyness) and it was perfectly pleasant weather - ideal for mowing the lawn, for example, which was handy as it'll chuck it down tomorrow.


(I always like to mow the lawn the day before some rain comes... I generally keep green grass for longer as a result!)


I have to agree Darren!  These past few days have been gruelling, no air and too hot and sticky to do anything.  There was a time when I couldn’t get enough of hot sultry weather but these days I’d rather be comfortable and get a good night’s sleep.  Sunny and low to mid 20’s is my ideal, unless I’m on holiday!  


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Tim A
23 July 2021 18:45:28

21.1c max here with maybe 1.5 hours sunshine but very pleasant and useable weather to do jobs in and a nice relief from previous days.


Able to have an early dinner at a nearby restaurant outside and it was warm enough .


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Rob K
23 July 2021 18:54:04

Originally Posted by: moomin75 


Absolutely no chance of another 30c until next June or July I would say.



I think you need to look at the calendar. It is July 23, not August 23 (and even if it was August 23 then we would still have another month of potential 30C days to come. 


we know from recent experience that the temperature can effortlessly reach 30C these days even in very unremarkable set-ups. And with high pressure never very far away from the south I would say it is odds on.


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moomin75
23 July 2021 19:09:21

Originally Posted by: Rob K 


 


I think you need to look at the calendar. It is July 23, not August 23 (and even if it was August 23 then we would still have another month of potential 30C days to come. 


we know from recent experience that the temperature can effortlessly reach 30C these days even in very unremarkable set-ups. And with high pressure never very far away from the south I would say it is odds on.


I know what the date is, but given the set up that is coming in, I'd say very much odds against. The Greenland High will take a month at least to shift. This is the end of our summer (weather wise, not calendar wise).


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Col
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23 July 2021 19:36:16

Originally Posted by: moomin75 


I know what the date is, but given the set up that is coming in, I'd say very much odds against. The Greenland High will take a month at least to shift. This is the end of our summer (weather wise, not calendar wise).



It doesn't take a model interpretation expert to say that is nonsense. You know as well as I do that even 2 weeks hence the GFS is generally flip-flopping around like a flip-floppery thing. And if we don't really have much of a clue as to conditions in a fortnight what do we know of what might happen in the next couple of months when 30C is feasible? Remember on October 1st 2011 we got to 29.9C, the record really is as daft as that.


I am almost certain that somewhere in the UK will record 30C again this year.


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Jiries
24 July 2021 05:56:21

It been a poor quality warm spell this time due to clouds around and never a day break from it and as soon as it end the clouds very impatiently return to overcast.  Rating is 2 out of 10.  The cloud is the massive issue.  Temps no problem at 30C or 31C here.


This was very unheard in the past warm to hot spells with wall to wall sunshine followed by thunderstorms over night and return to fresher sunnier weather again.

Tim A
24 July 2021 06:03:43

Originally Posted by: moomin75 


I know what the date is, but given the set up that is coming in, I'd say very much odds against. The Greenland High will take a month at least to shift. This is the end of our summer (weather wise, not calendar wise).



But before this excellent spell of weather you were also saying the summer was doomed as the models didn't show anything spectacular. The models eventually  slowly edged in high pressure from the SW but there some setbacks and a bit of a delay. But it was not obvious the fine weather was going to happen until about a week before . Nobody knows what the weather will be like in a few weeks time, although the Met Office think it will turn warmer and settled mid August.


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KevBrads1
24 July 2021 06:20:48

Originally Posted by: moomin75 


Absolutely no chance of another 30c until next June or July I would say.



How do you know a 30C won't be recorded during September?


 


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moomin75
24 July 2021 06:22:15

Originally Posted by: KevBrads1 


 


How do you know a 30C won't be recorded during September?


 


I don't know it won't, but odds on it won't. In my view, we have just seen summer, and it won't return.


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KevBrads1
24 July 2021 06:32:34

1954, which had arguably the worst summer of the 20th century, managed to record a 30C at the start of September.


 


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Chunky Pea
24 July 2021 06:47:22

Originally Posted by: moomin75 


In my view, we have just seen summer, and it won't return.



Good. 


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Col
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24 July 2021 07:00:33

Originally Posted by: moomin75 


I don't know it won't, but odds on it won't. In my view, we have just seen summer, and it won't return.



I think the only thing we can say with any degree of certainty is that 30C won't be recorded within the readily forcastable timescale.


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