I don’t always post in this thread mainly due to the acceptance that were I now live is known to be one of the mildest places in the UK.

The set up of the weather in the next 10 days is a case of point. We have had strong winds, and heavy rain/hail showers but nothing more wintery with a temperature that has hovered around 5-6c. I don’t expect to much will change in the near future with 850s around -3 to -6.

I was bought up just outside the Peak District in a town called Matlock. My Mum still lives there but with covid I would not visit. 
I see that a band of snow is now moving slowly SW this morning across that area giving about 1-3 inches in places. It’s times like this I really wish I was still up there, I might be getting older but when it comes to snow I’m a big kid.

When I see the photos later from the Facebook group up there showing the snow my heart sinks. 
It might seem mad but I will probably move back to that area one day and buy a house in Buxton so I can get my snow fix.

 

Was talking to my fiancée who never see snow in her life was very disappointed yesterday not seeing snow at all here yet.  Talked to her about my missing years of not seeing snow here and to make up by start travelling abroad to places where snow still exist and avoid as much as possible stay in the UK in late Autumn to winter time.  Her dream place to go is Switzerland and since I work from home I can easily book 1 week to go there any time when they get proper snow cover.  I told her i like to go to St Anton, Austria also as they got the deepest snow cover and go to Lapland too.  We will do that when everything get back to normal.

Still waiting for my first flake of snow this winter somehow we have managed to avoid every snowfall even yesterday it stopped 5 miles from me and stayed dry.

Three moans.

One - ninja downgrades already! -5C at 850 has become -2 or -3 in reality, meaning today's 3 or 4C max is now 6C. Not a good start
Two - beautiful synoptics, utterly wasted. For the first time in ages it looks like we're getting a midwinter easterly, yet with 850s as they are it'll just be a rainfest here. What *would* have been a snowfest in years past is reduced to this. Meh.
Three - thanks to the above, it'll be a case of "grit your teeth" as everyone else in the country (except Aberdeen) gets snow.

Enjoy your snow, those lucky enough to get it!

Here's the gripping forecast via xcweather for the easterly. Once upon a time, when temperatures were just a bit lower, that would have led to a real dumping of snow. Note the "odd" dewpoint forecasts too...

 

I have adjusted my expectations to zero, and find this a very useful point from which to operate.  The lack of cold air is a killer blow for us in Kent, particularly on the coast.

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https://www.wetterzentrale.de/maps/ECMOPEU00_168_2.png 

It wouldn't just be the coast that this is rain, it would be everywhere, it isn't even marginal.
Midnight temps of 5C in the Vale of York on the ECM , 3-4c here.
With pressure that high, you need 850hpa temps approaching -10c with a brisk easterly off the north sea for snowy conditions at sea level.

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Yet again I have endure reports of snow which from places that have always been less snowy while here we get nothing but crap 

Vile wet sleety rubbish off the North Sea all evening and night, despite the wind coming from the NW, which has frozen solid on the ground despite the temperature failing to go below freezing yet again. That is the biggest joke. Stuck between 1.6C and 2.3C since midnight which is dire and warmer than it was during the day yesterday 

The pavements and roads look lethal and wouldn't be surprised if it remains like that for the next week while I'm off trapping me indoors like a prisoner. Once again it feels like some evil creature is controlling the weather to constantly give us the worst possible outcome no matter what  

Another 5mm clocked up taking the monthly total ever closer to 2012 which was the wettest December since 1929. Even if it isn't reached that month managed far more in the way of frost and snow and also some mother of pearl clouds and sea foam. A vastly superior month to this unmitigated mind-numbing horror show of endless gloom and static temperatures 

Just four frosts this month - that's worse than last year - and one of those was only achieved in the evening before milder crud moved in overnight 

HORRENDOUS winter 

There is nothing to be enjoyed about this godawful season and there hasn't been for some years. If it's not gloomy and wet, it's windy. Always unpleasant and never interesting. Hardly any snow or frost yet somehow we can manage to get more icy pavements than ever before. It's just a disgusting ordeal from start to finish. An ordeal that gets more and more excruciating with each year that passes 

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A tough gig up there in Aberdeen for sure.

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Yet again I have endure reports of snow which from places that have always been less snowy while here we get nothing but crap 

Vile wet sleety rubbish off the North Sea all evening and night, despite the wind coming from the NW, which has frozen solid on the ground despite the temperature failing to go below freezing yet again. That is the biggest joke. Stuck between 1.6C and 2.3C since midnight which is dire and warmer than it was during the day yesterday 

The pavements and roads look lethal and wouldn't be surprised if it remains like that for the next week while I'm off trapping me indoors like a prisoner. Once again it feels like some evil creature is controlling the weather to constantly give us the worst possible outcome no matter what  

Another 5mm clocked up taking the monthly total ever closer to 2012 which was the wettest December since 1929. Even if it isn't reached that month managed far more in the way of frost and snow and also some mother of pearl clouds and sea foam. A vastly superior month to this unmitigated mind-numbing horror show of endless gloom and static temperatures 

Just four frosts this month - that's worse than last year - and one of those was only achieved in the evening before milder crud moved in overnight 

HORRENDOUS winter 

There is nothing to be enjoyed about this godawful season and there hasn't been for some years. If it's not gloomy and wet, it's windy. Always unpleasant and never interesting. Hardly any snow or frost yet somehow we can manage to get more icy pavements than ever before. It's just a disgusting ordeal from start to finish. An ordeal that gets more and more excruciating with each year that passes 

Gosh! And I thought my day was going bad so far and it has only just started.

Least you had like 2" or 5cm of snow a week or so back just before Xmas?

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As with others the snow barren land of Chelmsford continues

I feel all the pain well expressed on this thread. As a boy, I used to moan about the lack of snow in lowland Sussex, just 70ft aSL, but we got snow of sort most winters, and it was then just 0.4 degrees above pre-industrial times. Now it is 1.17 above preindustrial times and heating up at 0.2 degrees a decade, this accelerating too, so it has to be said winters in the UK as we briefly witnessed in 2010 will soon not just be over - but out. It’s another La Niña, yet global temps will be much higher this year than 2011, the last La Niña, and it is relentless. 

We need global solutions fast: Not just zer carbon sooner than 2050, but actual reversal, using all possible methods.
Afforestation

Reafforstation

Ocean seeding with a sweet spot of iron, nitrogen and potassium - to make the photoplakton bloom

Attack fake news - most sponsored by the fossil fuel industry, 

Lobby government

Paint roofs white to reflect heat

buy electric cars and fuel them with green electricity

Push for more windmills offshore.

Any other ideas/????

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I feel all the pain well expressed on this thread. As a boy, I used to moan about the lack of snow in lowland Sussex, just 70ft aSL, but we got snow of sort most winters, and it was then just 0.4 degrees above pre-industrial times. Now it is 1.17 above preindustrial times and heating up at 0.2 degrees a decade, this accelerating too, so it has to be said winters in the UK as we briefly witnessed in 2010 will soon not just be over - but out. It’s another La Niña, yet global temps will be much higher this year than 2011, the last La Niña, and it is relentless. 

We need global solutions fast: Not just zer carbon sooner than 2050, but actual reversal, using all possible methods.
Afforestation

Reafforstation

Ocean seeding with a sweet spot of iron, nitrogen and potassium - to make the photoplakton bloom

Attack fake news - most sponsored by the fossil fuel industry, 

Lobby government

Paint roofs white to reflect heat

buy electric cars and fuel them with green electricity

Push for more windmills offshore.

Any other ideas/????

Governments need to make these things happen.  Stop people voting Tory ,,,,, oh shit, we are finished!

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The weather gods always seem to find a way to prevent promising potential from turning into actual great winter weather on the ground. 

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 I try to say something positive but even the negatives won't come out.

 

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I’ve been high as a kite all morning frolicking outside in the very unusual and surprising snow event. “This never happens here” , “this cold spell is actually pretty decent after all”

Then I went in the model thread. Brought down to Earth with a bump by the mood hoovers. There’s my moan. 

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I’ve been high as a kite all morning frolicking outside in the very unusual and surprising snow event. “This never happens here” , “this cold spell is actually pretty decent after all”

Then I went in the model thread. Brought down to Earth with a bump by the mood hoovers. There’s my moan. 

I did wonder what you were doing on the moaning thread today!

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Cold, rain showers, temperature around 5C for the rest of the week. Hardly 2010...

The system tomorrow seems to be moving more and more south. I’m starting to get angry now. If I don’t see snow from this spell I’ll be nightly disappointed

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Cold, rain showers, temperature around 5C for the rest of the week. Hardly 2010...

Other than one snowy day 2010 wasn't anything memorable down here either lol. 

2008/09 & 2009/10 were both far better than 2010/11 for here. 

Still waiting for my first flake of snow this winter somehow we have managed to avoid every snowfall even yesterday it stopped 5 miles from me and stayed dry.

This winter? It's been three winters here now since a flake!

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I feel all the pain well expressed on this thread. As a boy, I used to moan about the lack of snow in lowland Sussex, just 70ft aSL, but we got snow of sort most winters, and it was then just 0.4 degrees above pre-industrial times. Now it is 1.17 above preindustrial times and heating up at 0.2 degrees a decade, this accelerating too, so it has to be said winters in the UK as we briefly witnessed in 2010 will soon not just be over - but out. It’s another La Niña, yet global temps will be much higher this year than 2011, the last La Niña, and it is relentless. 

We need global solutions fast: Not just zer carbon sooner than 2050, but actual reversal, using all possible methods.
Afforestation

Reafforstation

Ocean seeding with a sweet spot of iron, nitrogen and potassium - to make the photoplakton bloom

Attack fake news - most sponsored by the fossil fuel industry, 

Lobby government

Paint roofs white to reflect heat

buy electric cars and fuel them with green electricity

Push for more windmills offshore.

Any other ideas/????

All very true and nowhere, but nowhere has suffered from lack of snow like East Anglia. Back in the sixties my Geography book had Norwich as the snowiest part of lowland England. Barely a winter past without North Sea snow showers on a North easterly and these could, on odd occasions give six inches of drifting snow in coastal areas that now would see rain. Not seen these conditions really this millennium although March 2018 with the Beast was a decent Easterly. Sadly the younger members have got used to a lower bar and get excited by current prospects. So us older ones have to recalibrate our expectations. 2009-10 was extremely cold but snowfall depths were just par for the course in earlier winters. This current spell is below average but would be typical of a few weeks every winter. Realistically though, extended severe cold has only ever occurred every 20 years or so. 1947, 1963, 1980's, 2010 so we are now in the middle of another wait. Of course the difference is the run of the mill winters in between those frequently gave days with heavy snowfalls that were just accepted as a normal winter but nowadays people would be ecstatic about them.

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11cm of snow here over the cumulative falls today and yesterday, easily the most since Jan 2013.

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