Brian Gaze
16 July 2020 12:00:09

Three words to describe the weather today: Cloud. Cloud. Cloud. This week has been a complete debacle.


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Roger Parsons
16 July 2020 12:16:53

Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


Three words to describe the weather today: Cloud. Cloud. Cloud. This week has been a complete debacle.



I thought you Met bots lived in a mysterious, intriguing world of delighted surprise and enchantment at the unpredictable ways of the weather, Brian. We biologists keep on discovering how little we know! [More and more about less and less, or less and less about more and more?]


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16 July 2020 13:33:54

The last 2 weeks have given me an insight into the meaning of "Permacast hell" so often described by our members North of the border.


Cloud is breaking up now though. Looking forward to tomorrow's little cameo performance before the  starts again.


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Bolty
16 July 2020 17:00:25
This has to be probably the dullest first half of July I've known. Yet another day where I've not seen one glimpse of the sun, along with several others.
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richardabdn
16 July 2020 18:13:32

Yet another shocking day. Unbelievably reached 25.1C yet practically no sun apart from during late morning when I was stuck indoors working.


Absolutely dire. I can never recall such high temperatures being accompanied by so little sun before. It's even more depressing than 15C and overcast when even warm days are ruined by cloud. Just where the hell does it come from? Practically all day there has been blue visible to the west but it never gets any closer. It's as if this hellhole generates it's own cloud that just sits there and stagnates.


Hate claggy humid cloudy weather. It's like the conditions the midges thrive in on the West Coast. Practically the only way to tell the difference between here and the west coast now is when there's an easterly and the weather is fine there. It's never fine here nowadays.


Between 1880 and 2006 only six years out of 127 were so poor that both June and July recorded fewer than 140 hours sun. Since 2007 that has happened on three occasions - in 2007, 2012 and 2016. Unless July bucks up its ideas then 2020 will make that four times in 14 years.


Astounding and more evidence of how conditions that would have been considered unusual and abnormal in the past are now depressingly becoming the norm 


EDIT: Sun has just appeared now when of course it is too late to get any Vitamin D from it 


 


 


 


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doctormog
16 July 2020 18:49:24
My moan is that after a few hours on the beach (where it was lovely and warm) and at home (where it was even warmer) I have a little bit of sunburn, albeit nothing too much. It did feel a bit warm while I was cutting down a tree earlier so that could pass as another moan.
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16 July 2020 19:10:20

Originally Posted by: richardabdn 


Yet another shocking day. Unbelievably reached 25.1C yet practically no sun apart from during late morning when I was stuck indoors working.


 


Only you could actually manage to complain about a temperature of 25C!


Had it been sunny but just in the mid teens you'd be complaining about that too.


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KevBrads1
16 July 2020 19:12:17
August 2008esque at the moment
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16 July 2020 20:13:28
July really can’t get going at the moment. I know it’s warm tomorrow, but Saturday now looks like being more cloudy.

I’m starting to get mildly irritated.
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Jiries
16 July 2020 20:21:23

Originally Posted by: KevBrads1 

August 2008esque at the moment


I remember that year was awful and this year doing the same.   Those cloudy days are wasting our peak valuable day light hours as it still very long but by August it will draw in faster.  Havcen't seen proper sun rise or set since late June.

Heavy Weather 2013
16 July 2020 20:24:31

Originally Posted by: Jiries 


 


I remember that year was awful and this year doing the same.   Those cloudy days are wasting our peak valuable day light hours as it still very long but by August it will draw in faster.  Havcen't seen proper sun rise or set since late June.



Welcome back Jiries. Good to see you back posting. How have you been?


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johncs2016
16 July 2020 22:49:27
Here in Edinburgh, today was our warmest day of this month so far with a maximum temperature of 21.6°C, and even that is a whole 10°C cooler than that really high temperature of 31.6°C which was recorded at that very same station in this very same month during last year, that resulted in that particular day going down as our hottest day on record.

Furthermore, that has come with a total of just 3.8 hours of sunshine being recorded for today at Edinburgh Gogarbank. So far, we are now just over halfway through this month and still haven't yet had a single day during this month with a total of 8 or more hours of sunshine throughout this entire month.

In addition to that, we had only had less than a third of the 1981-2010 July average sunshine at Edinburgh Gogarbank during this month so far, so this is clearing to going to go down as another substantially duller than average month unless those sunshine totals improve considerably during the second half of this month.

Yet, this has been anything but a wet month here. We have only had just over 40% of of our 1981-2010 July average rainfall during this month so far with most of that coming in the very first week of this month, and we have now gone an entire week without even as much as a single official rain day here in Edinburgh.

June was only slightly wetter than average here which means that we haven't even started to make up the rainfall deficit which resulted from that exceptionally dry spring and now, that deficit is getting even bigger all the time. Even the wet winter which preceded all of that, merely made up the really large deficit which has built up over a long period in 2018 and the beginning of 2019, so we never seem to ever be in any sort of rainfall surplus, and are always constantly making up one rainfall deficit after another these days.

On that note, I will therefore challenge anyone on this forum who can tell me any location outside of the extreme SE of England which has been drier than here in SE Scotland overall since the start of the spring, and I'm talking about rainfall anomalies here, rather than actual totals. It has been said a lot that the SW half of the UK is wetter on average than the SE half of the UK, but the latest data is showing that to be utter rubbish and lies because SE Scotland is itself, part of the NW half of the UK and yet, has been drier than quite a lot of places down south during the last few months overall.

What this boils down to is the most boring and inept climate which you could ever hope for as we increasingly find ourselves with nothing day in and day our, other than that same old story where it increasingly never rains, and yet where we are always subject to constant grey skies and maybe the odd bit of sunshine. Indeed, it has now become like Groundhog Day in that regard because there never changes any more from one day to the next which means that any report in any day's CC thread can now be easily made up simply by copying and pasting everything over from the previous day's post.

That just goes to show how increasingly boring and uninteresting our weather has now become, and I'm really sick to the back teeth of that now as that has now gone completely beyond a joke.



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doctormog
17 July 2020 18:02:26
I’m pretty sure it has been drier here this year than the SE of Scotland but I would need to check the numbers in more detail.
johncs2016
17 July 2020 18:46:00

Originally Posted by: doctormog 

I’m pretty sure it has been drier here this year than the SE of Scotland but I would need to check the numbers in more detail.


If that is the case though, it actually proves my point that the NW half of the UK isn't necessarily wetter than the SE since you are even further north than what I am here in Edinburgh.


In any case, today is yet another example of what I was talking about in my last post but it has been virtually overcast all day with no more than half an hour of sunshine being recorded for the whole of today at Edinburgh Gogarbank as at 7pm this evening, and with nothing at all in that department since 1pm this afternoon.


Yet at the same time, the only "rainfall" which we are getting is some light drizzle which has just set in over the last hour or so. That is making it look wet and miserable and yet, there is very little rainfall actually showing up on the rain radar maps because what we are getting just now, is just that same old crap which never gives us any more than about 0.2 to possibly 0.6 mm of actual rainfall in total, and that is of no use to anyone whatsoever.


As far as the rainfall figures go though, I will leave it to you to give your own figures for your own area but if Richard is right in what he has been saying about it raining quite a lot there recently, then the most recent rainfall figures for your area should be higher than what they are for here.


 


 


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doctormog
17 July 2020 19:06:43

Originally Posted by: johncs2016 


 


If that is the case though, it actually proves my point that the NW half of the UK isn't necessarily wetter than the SE since you are even further north than what I am here in Edinburgh.


In any case, today is yet another example of what I was talking about in my last post but it has been virtually overcast all day with no more than half an hour of sunshine being recorded for the whole of today at Edinburgh Gogarbank as at 7pm this evening, and with nothing at all in that department since 1pm this afternoon.


Yet at the same time, the only "rainfall" which we are getting is some light drizzle which has just set in over the last hour or so. That is making it look wet and miserable and yet, there is very little rainfall actually showing up on the rain radar maps because what we are getting just now, is just that same old crap which never gives us any more than about 0.2 to possibly 0.6 mm of actual rainfall in total, and that is of no use to anyone whatsoever.


As far as the rainfall figures go though, I will leave it to you to give your own figures for your own area but if Richard is right in what he has been saying about it raining quite a lot there recently, then the most recent rainfall figures for your area should be higher than what they are for here.


 




I think the last few weeks have probably been wetter than with you, but it has been drier over recent months overall. Today has been a lovely day and it is still sunny and a pleasant 19.5°C currently.


johncs2016
17 July 2020 19:32:42

Originally Posted by: doctormog 


 



I think the last few weeks have probably been wetter than with you, but it has been drier over recent months overall. Today has been a lovely day and it is still sunny and a pleasant 19.5°C currently.



Let's not forget though, that we had our wettest February on record here in Edinburgh at the end of last winter which could well have been enough to completely skew the overall results for this entire year so far.


 


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Jiries
17 July 2020 19:39:22

Originally Posted by: Heavy Weather 2013 


 


Welcome back Jiries. Good to see you back posting. How have you been?



Been good and now living in Nuneaton, 130m near Coventry since Feb 2020.  Area here ok and got amenities unlike in Lower Stoke, Kent and not bad with temperatures a bit lower than Epsom but managed to see 31.2C here during the heatwave end of June while Epsom was 33C.  Today was 26C.


My fiance had been stuck abroad due to COVID which we applied it in early Feb but my solicitor was very slow and was too late when lock down came so I dump her and we found another one who is very fast and very soon she will get appiontment but no longer 1 month fast track Fiance visa due to COVID so standard 3 months so she would be here on 1st November.  Preferred to come here on March when spring arrive and daylight getting longer if my first one was fast enough but anyway this summer is very bad which I told her about it.  She want to see snow but i warn here we don't get it at all here just go to Switzerland which she always dream to go there, or Canada or Cyprus up in the mountain to see the snow or in summer for heat and swimming. 

idj20
17 July 2020 23:19:06

Originally Posted by: Jiries 


 


I remember that year was awful and this year doing the same.   Those cloudy days are wasting our peak valuable day light hours as it still very long but by August it will draw in faster.  Havcen't seen proper sun rise or set since late June.




Hey Jiries! Long time no hear and hope Kent is being kind to you.  Indeed, been a while since I've seen a vivid coloured sunrise and sunset, although with sunrises at this time of the year I'm rarely awake at that time to see them like I used to back in my tomato farming days. 


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Saint Snow
18 July 2020 12:46:17

3 days ago, the forecast for here today was cloudy morning, brightening up through the afternoon. 


2 days ago: some drizzle overnight, cloudy until early afternoon, lighter cloud and maybe a few sunny spells later. 


Yesterday: light rain overnight through the morning, drying up early afternoon


Today: rain all day


 


Meanwhile, the SE gets a lovely day today, the rain overnight, and a dry/sunny tomorrow.


Beyond a joke. 



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18 July 2020 16:01:20

Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 


3 days ago, the forecast for here today was cloudy morning, brightening up through the afternoon. 


2 days ago: some drizzle overnight, cloudy until early afternoon, lighter cloud and maybe a few sunny spells later. 


Yesterday: light rain overnight through the morning, drying up early afternoon


Today: rain all day


 


Meanwhile, the SE gets a lovely day today, the rain overnight, and a dry/sunny tomorrow.


Beyond a joke. 



You can always bet when there’s a cold front taking its time  during the day it’s always through NW England! Really glum  day today. At least it’s a few degrees warmer with it this time. 


 


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