Gooner
30 March 2020 16:44:53

Originally Posted by: Heavy Weather 2013 


 


Government will be spending 75m getting Britons back from abroad.


Lots of confusion around testing and confirmed cases



Thank you 


I wonder if it would be easier to have a weekly roundup 


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fairweather
30 March 2020 16:45:15

I really, really can't understand people reading so much into these stats. We know all of the numbers coming out, probably from everywhere in the world (with the likely exception of Germany and Japan!) are at best an estimate. There are no detailed description Country by Country of their derivation. At the very best they might give a general trend.


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Heavy Weather 2013
30 March 2020 16:50:58
I wish the journalists would ask one direct pointed question. That they can follow up on if they don’t get an adequate response. 2-3 questions loses the impact of the first question
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Gooner
30 March 2020 16:56:07

The days certainly do fluctuate 


March 17th 407 cases


March 18th  676 


March 19th  643 


March 20th 714 


March 21st 1k


March 22nd 665


March 23rd 967


March 24th 1.4k


March 25th 1.5k


March 26th 2.1k


March 27th 2.9k


March 28th 2.5k


March 29th 2.4k 


March 30th 2.6k


Up down up down up


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Brian Gaze
30 March 2020 16:57:02

The only things of note IMO were Vallance saying


1) The UK is basically following the same path as France. So worth keeping an eye on the FT live tracker in the coming days.


https://www.ft.com/coronavirus-latest


2) The death count is lagging and efforts are being made to improve reporting. People who have died outside of hospitals from coronavirus will be included soon. The number of them is small. 


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llamedos
30 March 2020 17:00:39

Originally Posted by: Gooner 


 


Thank you 


I wonder if it would be easier to have a weekly roundup 


I do wish the invited journalists wouldn't ask the same questions every day. YAWN


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Gandalf The White
30 March 2020 17:14:12
The new Nightingale Hospital opens on Wednesday, fully equipped including intensive care beds with ventilators.

That's a fantastic effort. The building may have been there but to equip it so quickly and sort out the staffing is astonishingly good.
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Quantum
30 March 2020 17:14:29

2619 new cases compared to the 3963 predicted by the jff model.


Hopefully a good sign.


 


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2023/2024 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):
29/11 (-6), 30/11 (-6), 02/12 (-5), 03/12 (-5), 04/12 (-3), 16/01 (-3), 18/01 (-8), 08/02 (-5)

Total: 8 days with snow/sleet falling.

2022/2023 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

18/12 (-1), 06/03 (-6), 08/03 (-8), 09/03 (-6), 10/03 (-8), 11/03 (-5), 14/03 (-6)

Total: 7 days with snow/sleet falling.

2021/2022 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

26/11 (-5), 27/11 (-7), 28/11 (-6), 02/12 (-6), 06/01 (-5), 07/01 (-6), 06/02 (-5), 19/02 (-5), 24/02 (-7), 30/03 (-7), 31/03 (-8), 01/04 (-8)
Total: 12 days with snow/sleet falling.
llamedos
30 March 2020 17:15:21

Surely finding an accurate starting data set which can be used and then the same parameters collated on a daily basis, is fundamental in making forward projections. 


Results based on this, showing linear rather exponential growth would be a reason for optimism.


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Brian Gaze
30 March 2020 17:16:24

Originally Posted by: Gandalf The White 

The new Nightingale Hospital opens on Wednesday, fully equipped including intensive care beds with ventilators.

That's a fantastic effort. The building may have been there but to equip it so quickly and sort out the staffing is astonishingly good.




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xioni2
30 March 2020 17:17:50

Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


The only things of note IMO were Vallance saying


1) The UK is basically following the same path as France. So worth keeping an eye on the FT live tracker in the coming days.



Yes, unlike Italy and Spain, I think France is a probably a better match for us in terms of type of accommodation and distance between different generations of the same family. One caveat of course is that eastern France is less densely populated than here.

xioni2
30 March 2020 17:18:52

Originally Posted by: Gandalf The White 

The new Nightingale Hospital opens on Wednesday, fully equipped including intensive care beds with ventilators.

That's a fantastic effort. The building may have been there but to equip it so quickly and sort out the staffing is astonishingly good.


Almost everyone was saying that only China could do such a thing, but it sounds like we can too.


Gandalf The White
30 March 2020 17:19:49

Originally Posted by: llamedos 


Surely finding an accurate starting data set which can be used and then the same parameters collated on a daily basis, is fundamental in making forward projections. 


Results based on this, showing linear rather exponential growth would be a reason for optimism.



I'm sure that the people who have the job of trying to manage this pandemic have more data than we see and are very well aware of the data capture issues.


As Micheal has said, whilst the clamour for an unlimited supply of up to date data is understandable I really think people are expecting too much and overdoing the attempted analysis. It's not unlike the model output - it's the trends that matter, not random variability.


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llamedos
30 March 2020 17:22:44

Originally Posted by: Gandalf The White 


 


I'm sure that the people who have the job of trying to manage this pandemic have more data than we see and are very well aware of the data capture issues.


As Micheal has said, whilst the clamour for an unlimited supply of up to date data is understandable I really think people are expecting too much and overdoing the attempted analysis. It's not unlike the model output - it's the trends that matter, not random variability.


I agree Peter, I was trying to highlight that some peoples expectations for "accurate information" is hard to achieve.


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Gandalf The White
30 March 2020 17:33:25

Originally Posted by: llamedos 


I agree Peter, I was trying to highlight that some peoples expectations for "accurate information" is hard to achieve.



Yes, I know! 🙂


I was making the same basic point. I find the never-ending negativity and moaning in here increasingly tedious.  It seems people would rather assume everyone is incompetent or, worse, setting out wilfully to mislead - for which there is no evidence at all.


 


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The Beast from the East
30 March 2020 17:35:20

Originally Posted by: Gooner 


 


What's your VERY soon out of interest



April 30 would be a fair date to end the lockdown. Deaths should be down to single figures by then


Sadly the festival beer will not keep till May so will have to be poured down the drain. What a tragedy


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Gavin D
30 March 2020 17:37:53
New York State have reported 6,984 new cases and 253 new deaths.

State total now 66,497 cases and 1,218 deaths.
Gavin D
30 March 2020 17:38:35

doctormog
30 March 2020 17:41:25

Originally Posted by: Gandalf The White 


 


Yes, I know! 🙂


I was making the same basic point. I find the never-ending negativity and moaning in here increasingly tedious.  It seems people would rather assume everyone is incompetent or, worse, setting out wilfully to mislead - for which there is no evidence at all.


 



I agree Peter, the negativity is tiresome. It is easy to criticise. I personally have nothing but respect for those who are dealing wi this situation both north and south of the border even if I don’t agree with their politics. It is so easy to say “do x, y and z”. If that was the answer and it were that easy then people all over the world would be doing it. The situation is unprecedented in recent times and we are all learning from it, one way or another.


That’s not to say give those in power carte blanche, but a bit of chance in an almost impossible situation isn’t too much to ask for surely?


Gooner
30 March 2020 17:41:58

Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 


 


April 30 would be a fair date to end the lockdown. Deaths should be down to single figures by then


Sadly the festival beer will not keep till May so will have to be poured down the drain. What a tragedy



4 weeks 


Sorry but NEVER in a zillion years , so everyone can open again ? Kids back to school , pubs, clubs , bars , restaurants all open ?


Absolute utter disaster , the cases would shoot through the roof again


Or are you kidding?


If you think the deaths will be that low , why build the emergency hospitals  ?


Of course just my opinion as yours is yours 


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