tallyho_83
02 December 2019 01:05:39

A wintry and wild polling day if this comes about:


Early evening when most people are likely to vote when they get back from work!?? - This of course will change but this unsettled and wild or stormy and snowy theme continues for 12th Dec.





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DEW
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02 December 2019 07:02:10

GFS much like yesterday until Tue 12th i.e HP declining to westerly flow, even NW around 9th; then a deep and cold LP with northerlies 12th - 14th (wasn't shown until 14th at this time yesterday but models steadily moving it earlier since - a worry for election organisers) going back to W/SW flow by 18th


After propping up a HP cell, UK Jetstream resuming generally strong W - E from Thu, first to the N of UK but sinking southwards. Notable loop S-wards 12th/13th allowing cold LP to follow in its wake, then back to W - E the following week.


ECM matches GFS to end of TWO charts at T+240 (Tue 11th) and the last chart has an LP positioned to come south much as GFS


Ens temps oscillate between seasonal average and above to about 8th Dec, the a long period where most but not all runs a degree or two below. Variable amount of pptn 7th onward; snow row totals only significant for N England and Scotland


War does not determine who is right, only who is left - Bertrand Russell

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Whether Idle
02 December 2019 07:29:54

Originally Posted by: DEW 


GFS much like yesterday until Tue 12th i.e HP declining to westerly flow, even NW around 9th; then a deep and cold LP with northerlies 12th - 14th (wasn't shown until 14th at this time yesterday but models steadily moving it earlier since - a worry for election organisers) going back to W/SW flow by 18th


After propping up a HP cell, UK Jetstream resuming generally strong W - E from Thu, first to the N of UK but sinking southwards. Notable loop S-wards 12th/13th allowing cold LP to follow in its wake, then back to W - E the following week.


ECM matches GFS to end of TWO charts at T+240 (Tue 11th) and the last chart has an LP positioned to come south much as GFS


Ens temps oscillate between seasonal average and above to about 8th Dec, the a long period where most but not all runs a degree or two below. Variable amount of pptn 7th onward; snow row totals only significant for N England and Scotland



Thanks David. I find your objective summaries useful. 


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ballamar
02 December 2019 07:58:13
ECM is encouraging in later stages, where is goes after is possibly zonal but enough in it to think there could be a build of heights to the north. Better to have slightly different Synoptics rather than looking at a mild long fetch SW on the wrong side of the jet.
tallyho_83
02 December 2019 08:24:26

both ECM and GFS 00z run again gives us a cold and stormy as well as wintry election polling day:






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Gooner
02 December 2019 08:44:47

I'm happy with what's on offer , certainly no blow torch SWlies .


 


Looks ok to me 


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tallyho_83
02 December 2019 08:52:14

Originally Posted by: Gooner 


I'm happy with what's on offer , certainly no blow torch SWlies .


 


Looks ok to me 



 


Lot's of cold zonality!! We had that in 2014/15 and 2017/18 winter.


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DEW
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02 December 2019 09:01:21

Originally Posted by: tallyho_83 


 


 


Lot's of cold zonality!! We had that in 2014/15 and 2017/18 winter.



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David M Porter
02 December 2019 09:14:30

Originally Posted by: tallyho_83 


 


 


Lot's of cold zonality!! We had that in 2014/15 and 2017/18 winter.



More so in the latter than the former, at least as far as my own area was concerned.


In mid-January 2018 we had about 5-6 consecutive days here of heavy snow showers from a NW airflow which left quite a few inches on the ground, the most snow we had that winter prior to the Beast from the East at the end of Febuary 2018.


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Steve Murr
02 December 2019 09:53:11
Morning -

Continued enjoyment to be found in the models today as the move to a pattern that can deliver copious amount of snow given the right balance of atlantic moisture V polar air - however of course a nudge in from the azores high could scupper things..

Its a pattern that doesn't usually stay attenuated for to long - but it can be very good - 1996 being the holy grail.

S
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02 December 2019 10:05:33

Originally Posted by: DEW 


 


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...and the double exclamation mark. Where will punctuation inflation take us???


Rob
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Arcus
02 December 2019 10:25:01

Originally Posted by: RobN 


 


...and the double exclamation mark. Where will punctuation inflation take us???



I'm a firm believer in the adage that everyone should be born with a strict allocation of exclamation marks.


Anyway, GFS 6z once again showing PM potential next week - looks messy, but Scotland could do very well from set-ups like this.


Ben,
Nr. Easingwold, North Yorkshire
30m asl
Surrey John
02 December 2019 11:05:24

I see the Met office outlook Sunday 15th-29th (updated this morning) mentions wintry showers, then ends with  a transition to some longer, more settled and colder periods.


 


https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/


 


Sunday 15 Dec - Sunday 29 Dec


Although confidence is low for this period, the unsettled conditions are expected to continue. There will be some rain with interludes of cold but bright weather alongside a risk of showers. There is a continued chance of further wintry showers on high ground in the north. Temperatures will likely tend towards average, or just above, for this time of year. Towards the end of 2019 there is a possibility that we will see a transition to some longer, more settled and colder periods.



 


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Scottish Kierdog
02 December 2019 11:38:10

I'll be arriving in Scotland from Australia on 14th Dec for 3 weeks. If you could hold that Northerly off by 2 or 3 days , so i can build a snowman with my little fella please.  

JACKO4EVER
02 December 2019 12:38:18
Steady as she goes, cool zonality looks a form horse as we progress into the month. Whilst the majority of England and Wales will wonder what all the fuss is about, at least it’s no blowtorch as Marcus has pointed out above.
Saint Snow
02 December 2019 13:14:00

Originally Posted by: Arcus 


I'm a firm believer in the adage that everyone should be born with a strict allocation of exclamation marks.



 


Noted!!!!!


 


 



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Richard K
02 December 2019 16:37:51
12z GFS seems to be taking an interesting (N NE -erly) turn during next week
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Steve Murr
02 December 2019 16:41:27
Indeed probably the best run of the winter-
Look at the 10HPA Strat wind its now fully across the pole forcing SSW - Impacting the bend of the jet !
Lovely!!
Ally Pally Snowman
02 December 2019 16:42:38

Originally Posted by: Richard K 

12z GFS seems to be taking an interesting (N NE -erly) turn during next week


 


Yes stunning GFS 12z so far " The Famous Election Day Blizzard " we can but dream.


 


 


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moomin75
02 December 2019 16:43:34

Originally Posted by: Steve Murr 

Indeed probably the best run of the winter-
Look at the 10HPA Strat wind its now fully across the pole forcing SSW - Impacting the bend of the jet !
Lovely!!

Seems to be trending the right way Steve. And you can tell that it is because Shropshire is conspicuous by his absence. πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚


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