richardabdn
18 June 2019 21:05:23

What I would like to complain about is that the weather in Northern Portugal, where I'm going next month is worse than here 


Actually been reasonable the past few days with plenty of sun and the temperature reaching 19.7C at 5:30pm today. Same time in Portugal weather was overcast and drizzly and only 17C


This forecast is simply vile https://www.theweathernetwork.com/pt/weather/braga/guimaraes


Only two days in the next week with over 4 hours sun and temperatures struggling to low 20s when the average is 25C in June and 27C in July.


Really getting concerned as the predicted change to the normal full sun just never comes to fruition. Truly will be the year without summer for me if that's the rot I'll be getting on my holiday 


 


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tallyho_83
19 June 2019 00:42:32

Originally Posted by: springsunshine 


 


December 2015 was more summer like than this June!



Or February 2019! Some places had almost 2-3 weeks of sunny, mild or even warm dry weather! - Record breaking warmth!? Imagine that pattern now? We could easily be looking at temps in low or mid 30C' s!?


This unsettled weather is so typical of a negative NAO and Negative AO. Sods law we never really had this during the winter. the PV was so strong especially during February and the Ao and NAO was so positive with that Azores HP. Now of course when we are in summer we get weeks or months of negative NAO and AO - hence this wet or unsettled weather. Reminds me on June 2012. - Jubilee year was a washout as far as I can recall!?


In a way I don't mind cool summers. Last year we were spoilt with hot dry weather from Mid April to more or less mid August! With the peak of the warmth around end of June 2018 to early/mid July 2018.


The heat last year was exhausting - especially at night as well.


I don't mind warm weather during the day but at night it's a no go!! I recall myself and many other members were complaining about high indoor nighttime minimums! There were some nights where there indoor room temp never dipped below 25c - this occurred weeks on end!  Glad it's not a repeat of those uncomfortably hot nights this year! 


But yes some sun would be much a appreciated! I could do with drying some clothes outdoors at some point! 


 


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picturesareme
19 June 2019 01:21:17
Ah nights last year were nothing out of the norm generally - sure a couple of very warm +20C but most were not.

Despite the lack of any real warmth this June nights are still warming to normal June.

This coming week shall see 14-16C overnight lows establishing right on cue.

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19 June 2019 06:01:06

Originally Posted by: tallyho_83 


The heat last year was exhausting - especially at night as well.


I don't mind warm weather during the day but at night it's a no go!! I recall myself and many other members were complaining about high indoor nighttime minimums! There were some nights where there indoor room temp never dipped below 25c - this occurred weeks on end!  Glad it's not a repeat of those uncomfortably hot nights this year! 


But yes some sun would be much a appreciated! I could do with drying some clothes outdoors at some point! 


 Yes, the nights last summer were really uncomfortable!  Sleeping with all doors and windows open and fans going at full speed, just to get some airflow so it didn’t feel like you were suffocating in hot, dry air!  Not nice at all.  Not much chance of getting a repeat of that at the moment though!


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19 June 2019 06:13:29

Still waiting for a proper storm here, 13th September 2016 was the last occasion and the last thunderstorm during the meterological summer was 1st July 2015. 


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johncs2016
19 June 2019 07:13:20
It's a nice and sunny morning here in Edinburgh just now, but I would really like to seeing some rain here.

In normal everyday life, that wouldn't be the case since I like just about everyone else would actually rather be seeing a decent summer.

When I come to this forum though, I like to go by the type of weather which is the most interesting in terms of actually reporting that, rather than the actual weather which I would normally want to be seeing in real life and there can sometimes be a lot of differences between those two ideals.

Furthermore, it just doesn't seem fair to me that just about everyone else on this forum gets to report some interesting weather on their area (even though that may not be the actual sort of weather which they would like to be seeing) whilst there is almost constantly nothing ever very interesting to report here.

Scotland after all, is part of that bigger country that is known as the UK and we even voted to remain that way back in 2014.

In terms of our weather though, I just don't see the point in that continuing to be the case if we can't get to at least join the party along with the English, Welsh and Northern Irish members of this forum in terms of actually having some interesting weather in their area which is actually worth reporting.

That at least for now though, is something which is just not happening, and which hasn't been happening for quite a while now. Now, there is a reason why I am a member of this forum and a large part of that comes from my interest in the weather.

However, I also believe there is no point in being part of any forum where I have no interest whatsoever in the very subject matters which such a forum covers.

What has been happening recently is that there has been so little in the way of interesting weather to report here recently that this has been constantly draining away my actual interest in the weather as a result, because it is all just getting a bit boring now. This is then compounded by the fact that the rest of the country still appear to be getting more in the way of interesting weather that is worth reporting.

The way that this is going, I can the time coming very soon where I will end up just not wanting to be a part of this forum any more not because of this forum itself or its members, but because of the fact that I am simply no longer interested in the weather in the way in which I once was a result of it all becoming a lot more boring now.

To me, it will be a very sad day indeed, if it ever comes to that, but I have come very close to just packing in this forum altogether as a result on a number of occasions just recently. That is therefore, something which I can see happening very soon unless something drastically changes very soon and we actually get some interesting weather here which is actually worth reporting on this forum.

Let's just hope that this does indeed end up being final outcome because at the end of the day, I would much rather continue to play an active part on this forum with some interesting content to report, rather than simply being pushed away as a result of there being virtually nothing interesting to report (that is now in grave danger of happening very soon as things stand just now).

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19 June 2019 07:50:38

John, I wouldn’t say I’ve had any interesting weather but I do like to follow what others are getting.  Here at the moment it’s overcast and damp!  We had a dry April and May, then last week we had two days of moderate rain and four days of grey sky.  Not what anyone would call interesting!


There were some amazing thunder storms on the South coast around Eastbourne overnight though and that was very interesting even though it was over 200 miles away!  Following that on the lightning map and discussing it on the TWO forum was interesting!


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moomin75
19 June 2019 07:56:10

Originally Posted by: Caz 


John, I wouldn’t say I’ve had any interesting weather but I do like to follow what others are getting.  Here at the moment it’s overcast and damp!  We had a dry April and May, then last week we had two days of moderate rain and four days of grey sky.  Not what anyone would call interesting!


There were some amazing thunder storms on the South coast around Eastbourne overnight though and that was very interesting even though it was over 200 miles away!  Following that on the lightning map and discussing it on the TWO forum was interesting!


So far this June has been, not only one of the wettest I've ever experienced, but without a doubt the dullest. I have hardly seen the sun all month. It really has felt like November. Dull, overcast, grey, miserable, cool, and windy.


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19 June 2019 08:01:41

Originally Posted by: moomin75 


So far this June has been, not only one of the wettest I've ever experienced, but without a doubt the dullest. I have hardly seen the sun all month. It really has felt like November. Dull, overcast, grey, miserable, cool, and windy.


I suppose it could be worse Mooms!  We could live in Aberdeen!  


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johncs2016
19 June 2019 08:14:58

Originally Posted by: Caz 


I suppose it could be worse Mooms!  We could live in Aberdeen!  



Well, even Richard seemed to be happy with the more recent weather in his area (it was the weather in Portugal which was the subject of his most recent rant, rather than the weather in his neck of the woods) and that isn't something which happens very often.


 However, I'm sure that normal service will be resumed there before too long.


 


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johncs2016
19 June 2019 08:23:08

Originally Posted by: Caz 


John, I wouldn’t say I’ve had any interesting weather but I do like to follow what others are getting.  Here at the moment it’s overcast and damp!  We had a dry April and May, then last week we had two days of moderate rain and four days of grey sky.  Not what anyone would call interesting!


There were some amazing thunder storms on the South coast around Eastbourne overnight though and that was very interesting even though it was over 200 miles away!  Following that on the lightning map and discussing it on the TWO forum was interesting!



I can see a certain element of reason for being interested in what the weather is doing elsewhere. However, is it really asking too much for that to happen in this neck of the woods at least now and again?


If we were genuinely getting our fair share of interesting weather over the longer term on average, I would quite happily be interested in what the weather was doing elsewhere even if nothing was happening here at that time.


However, it just seems to be that the interesting weather ALWAYS seems to be elsewhere, and that we hardly ever seem to get anything at all in that regard if we indeed, we do even get some interesting weather on the odd occasion.


That is what gets my goat up because to me, it just doesn't seem fair that this is always the case and that is why I've become so fed up with it all.


 


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tallyho_83
19 June 2019 09:51:56

Originally Posted by: Caz 


 Yes, the nights last summer were really uncomfortable!  Sleeping with all doors and windows open and fans going at full speed, just to get some airflow so it didn’t feel like you were suffocating in hot, dry air!  Not nice at all.  Not much chance of getting a repeat of that at the moment though!



 


Last year was horrible those night time minimums . My town house is NW facing so has the sunset and gosh the indoor room temp would heat up to 33-35c by day and not drop below 25 or 26c by night making it so uncomfortable for sleeping - esp between May and August 2018. Plus even opening the window didint do anything as the winds were S'Ely so no fresh air was flowing inside my room!! So far this summer we haven't had really hot uncomfortable nights thank god! I mean night time minimums of +20c!! - Looks like a more typical BRITISH summer this.


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19 June 2019 10:53:03

Glastonbury will no doubt see some rain even if we have rising temperatures.






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19 June 2019 13:04:19

Originally Posted by: tallyho_83 


Last year was horrible those night time minimums . My town house is NW facing so has the sunset and gosh the indoor room temp would heat up to 33-35c by day and not drop below 25 or 26c by night making it so uncomfortable for sleeping - esp between May and August 2018. Plus even opening the window didint do anything as the winds were S'Ely so no fresh air was flowing inside my room!! So far this summer we haven't had really hot uncomfortable nights thank god! I mean night time minimums of +20c!! - Looks like a more typical BRITISH summer this.


Yes, my bedroom faces S/W and gets the sunset. I was closing windows, blinds and curtains during the day to keep the heat out and then opening everything at night, but it was still oppressive.  And as you say, there was no breeze, so no movement of air!  


The fans may have to come out next week though if the latest model output has it right.  Don’t get me wrong, I love hot sunny days and extreme weather, but I’m careful what I wish for!


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johncs2016
19 June 2019 15:33:12

This in a way, is a gloat rather than a moan because something "interesting" in terms of our weather has now finally happened at long last and even better still, this was something which wasn't actually forecast to happen.

Last night, I submitted a post to this year's summer 2018 general discussion thread where I mentioned that you had to go all the way back to August 1986 or possibly even earlier, to find the last summer month where the temperature had failed to reach 20°C at any of my three local stations here in Edinburgh at any point in time during that particular month.

That hadn't happened during this month until now, and this wasn't forecast to happen here today as we were expected to still be in a cool and fresh air mass with temperatures of no better than around 18°C.

Yet today has actually been slightly warmer than what it was forecast to be here, and also sunnier than what it was forecast to be with a total of 7.4 hours of sunshine being recorded for today so far at Edinburgh Gogarbank as at 4pm this afternoon on what is yet another completely dry day in this part of the world.

For Edinburgh Gogarbank, the temperatures have been roughly in line with what had been forecast but at Edinburgh Airport, the temperature did briefly reach 20°C at 2pm this afternoon. Until now, I was concerned this might be the first summer month since at 1986 without any maximums of 20°C or above at any of my three local stations.

However, that reading for Edinburgh Airport at 2pm this afternoon has now just saved our bacon here, thus preventing that from happening on this occasion. Furthermore, today's highest temperature at the botanic gardens in Edinburgh was just below 20°C as I write, but even that is still enough to make today our warmest day of this summer there so far.

Having said that though, this doesn't mean that this has now suddenly become a decent because even our coldest, dullest and wettest summer months will usually always deliver at least one day within them where the temperature reaches 20°C or above. However, it has being slowly warming up over the last few days. At the same time, it is becoming sunnier over time on each day and this month is now turning out to be not all that wet here to the point where we're now struggling to even be able to buy a single drop of rain in order to save ourselves.

When you add all of that together, it would appear that this summer is now turning out to be not so bad here after all.


 


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severnside
19 June 2019 18:09:15

Originally Posted by: moomin75 


So far this June has been, not only one of the wettest I've ever experienced, but without a doubt the dullest. I have hardly seen the sun all month. It really has felt like November. Dull, overcast, grey, miserable, cool, and windy.



Your spot on there moomin, I keep thinking I have woke up in the wrong month.

Bolty
20 June 2019 12:12:12

Looks like I picked the right week to have off work! Can't wait for the first proper heat of the summer.


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Saint Snow
21 June 2019 11:48:12

Despite the BBC forecasts showing dry, we had heavy rain & hail yesterday evening, and further rain this morning.


Even the 'heatwave' is going to be nothing but a very brief hint of high-70's.


All I ask for is a couple of months of dry, sunny settled weather, where you can make plans for parties & days out with a reasonable level of confidence.


Our weather in this country is utter crap, such a bloody lottery.



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Bolty
21 June 2019 22:24:40

Stunning display of noctilucent clouds tonight!


https://twitter.com/M35weather/status/1142193322498428930


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johncs2016
21 June 2019 22:54:57

Originally Posted by: Bolty 


Stunning display of noctilucent clouds tonight!


https://twitter.com/M35weather/status/1142193322498428930



Here in Edinburgh, we also have really good view of some noctilucent clouds which are quite high in the northern skyline. That is quite a good addition to what will be the most spectacular view of this year, of the lingering twilight which lasts all the way through the night at this of the year as long as the sky continues to remain clear.


This shows that even in this most boring part of the UK when it comes to our weather, the odd "interesting" event can occasionally occur on the odd very rare occasion.


 


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