Fergie says the CL is now a bigger and better tournament than the World Cup. One word: Delusional

Certainly not bigger. Crazy old fool. But after watching the last world cup drift by he might have a point with better.

Fergie says the CL is now a bigger and better tournament than the World Cup. One word: Delusional

 

llamedos wrote:

It probably produces better performances, better entertainment and more consistent results........apart from that I'd agree with you  

Matty H wrote:

In all seriousness I'd disagree with all three points. The last WC wasn't great, but on the whole they are superb. It's a huge event every four years involving the globe. The CL is every year involving a few clubs from Europe.

Unless you support Man Utd, Chelsea, Arsenal or Spurs I would imagine the remaining 99% of England couldn't really give a toss if they win or not, but will watch it because it's a game of football on the box, whereas the WC brings a nation behind the same cause, although I admit that my interest in all things England football related is shallow at best

Well judging by the reaction to the Turkish crowd at tonight's game they seem to have thought they'd just won the World Cup.  And the Nobel Prize.  And the State Lottery ........    Seriously - nice to see a crowd so pationately behind their team in defeat, instead of walking out 10 minutes before the end .....

I have to say that was a great performance by Spurs tonight, especially Bale. It's a great shame that he'll never play in a major international tournament.

Nope, unfortunately he was born in Wales. He would walk into the England team.

In many ways the best player for Spurs this evening was Modric. Forget about the goal he set up, he was excellent at dispossessing Inter in midfield.

LMAO!!!!!!!!!

Fergie says the CL is now a bigger and better tournament than the World Cup. One word: Delusional

 

Matty H wrote:

It probably produces better performances, better entertainment and more consistent results........apart from that I'd agree with you  

llamedos wrote:

In all seriousness I'd disagree with all three points. The last WC wasn't great, but on the whole they are superb. It's a huge event every four years involving the globe. The CL is every year involving a few clubs from Europe.

Unless you support Man Utd, Chelsea, Arsenal or Spurs I would imagine the remaining 99% of England couldn't really give a toss if they win or not, but will watch it because it's a game of football on the box, whereas the WC brings a nation behind the same cause, although I admit that my interest in all things England football related is shallow at best

Matty H wrote:

Regards performance do players in general play better for their club or country......invariably it's their club. What produces better entertainment for the TV viewer, generally pulsating matches from the CL on a regular basis or a volume of rather sub standard matches in the WC ? As an extravaganza the WC takes the honours, but IMO for pure quality the CL is the better competition..............all about opinions I guess   

Fergie says the CL is now a bigger and better tournament than the World Cup. One word: Delusional

 

llamedos wrote:

It probably produces better performances, better entertainment and more consistent results........apart from that I'd agree with you  

Matty H wrote:

In all seriousness I'd disagree with all three points. The last WC wasn't great, but on the whole they are superb. It's a huge event every four years involving the globe. The CL is every year involving a few clubs from Europe.

Unless you support Man Utd, Chelsea, Arsenal or Spurs I would imagine the remaining 99% of England couldn't really give a toss if they win or not, but will watch it because it's a game of football on the box, whereas the WC brings a nation behind the same cause, although I admit that my interest in all things England football related is shallow at best

llamedos wrote:

Perhaps we're looking from different perspectives and maybe even different ideals.

Regards performance do players in general play better for their club or country......invariably it's their club. What produces better entertainment for the TV viewer, generally pulsating matches from the CL on a regular basis or a volume of rather sub standard matches in the WC ? As an extravaganza the WC takes the honours, but IMO for pure quality the CL is the better competition..............all about opinions I guess   

Matty H wrote:

Can't say I disagree with this. I'd rather see Spurs vs Inter, Copenhagen vs Barca than Italy vs New Zealand.

Fergie says the CL is now a bigger and better tournament than the World Cup. One word: Delusional

 

SEMerc wrote:

It probably produces better performances, better entertainment and more consistent results........apart from that I'd agree with you  

llamedos wrote:

In all seriousness I'd disagree with all three points. The last WC wasn't great, but on the whole they are superb. It's a huge event every four years involving the globe. The CL is every year involving a few clubs from Europe.

Unless you support Man Utd, Chelsea, Arsenal or Spurs I would imagine the remaining 99% of England couldn't really give a toss if they win or not, but will watch it because it's a game of football on the box, whereas the WC brings a nation behind the same cause, although I admit that my interest in all things England football related is shallow at best

Matty H wrote:

Perhaps we're looking from different perspectives and maybe even different ideals.

Regards performance do players in general play better for their club or country......invariably it's their club. What produces better entertainment for the TV viewer, generally pulsating matches from the CL on a regular basis or a volume of rather sub standard matches in the WC ? As an extravaganza the WC takes the honours, but IMO for pure quality the CL is the better competition..............all about opinions I guess   

llamedos wrote:

Can't say I disagree with this. I'd rather see Spurs vs Inter, Copenhagen vs Barca than Italy vs New Zealand.

Matty H wrote:

And you just proved my point. You support Spurs, well, you don't actually, but you get my point

I'm sure there would be far more people in Italy and New Zealand that would rather watch that game than Spurs and Inter fans watch the game you highlight.

Fact is the WC is far bigger, far better and carries far more prestige. Ask anyone outside Europe, or to be more precise the fans of the few clubs in the CL how important the CL is to them compared to the WC.

Fergie, as is so often the case, was talking out of his brown hole again

Fergie says the CL is now a bigger and better tournament than the World Cup. One word: Delusional

 

Matty H wrote:

It probably produces better performances, better entertainment and more consistent results........apart from that I'd agree with you  

SEMerc wrote:

In all seriousness I'd disagree with all three points. The last WC wasn't great, but on the whole they are superb. It's a huge event every four years involving the globe. The CL is every year involving a few clubs from Europe.

Unless you support Man Utd, Chelsea, Arsenal or Spurs I would imagine the remaining 99% of England couldn't really give a toss if they win or not, but will watch it because it's a game of football on the box, whereas the WC brings a nation behind the same cause, although I admit that my interest in all things England football related is shallow at best

llamedos wrote:

Perhaps we're looking from different perspectives and maybe even different ideals.

Regards performance do players in general play better for their club or country......invariably it's their club. What produces better entertainment for the TV viewer, generally pulsating matches from the CL on a regular basis or a volume of rather sub standard matches in the WC ? As an extravaganza the WC takes the honours, but IMO for pure quality the CL is the better competition..............all about opinions I guess   

Matty H wrote:

Can't say I disagree with this. I'd rather see Spurs vs Inter, Copenhagen vs Barca than Italy vs New Zealand.

llamedos wrote:

And you just proved my point. You support Spurs, well, you don't actually, but you get my point

I'm sure there would be far more people in Italy and New Zealand that would rather watch that game than Spurs and Inter fans watch the game you highlight.

Fact is the WC is far bigger, far better and carries far more prestige. Ask anyone outside Europe, or to be more precise the fans of the few clubs in the CL how important the CL is to them compared to the WC.

Fergie, as is so often the case, was talking out of his brown hole again

Matty H wrote:

Bigger yes, better no, more prestige yes. The problem with the World Cup is that there are too many crap games, because there are too many pi$$poor teams in it such as England. But seriously, the idea of watching Italy vs New Zealand, Algeria vs USA would fill me with dread. My fears were realised. I reckon Hapoel Tel Aviv could have beaten some of the teams at this year's World Cup. I also hate the marketing aspects of the World Cup and the politically correct crap that Africa should have been awarded it because it was Africa's time. Why? Most African fans support CL teams and couldn't give a toss.

Fergie says the CL is now a bigger and better tournament than the World Cup. One word: Delusional

 

SEMerc wrote:

It probably produces better performances, better entertainment and more consistent results........apart from that I'd agree with you  

Matty H wrote:

In all seriousness I'd disagree with all three points. The last WC wasn't great, but on the whole they are superb. It's a huge event every four years involving the globe. The CL is every year involving a few clubs from Europe.

Unless you support Man Utd, Chelsea, Arsenal or Spurs I would imagine the remaining 99% of England couldn't really give a toss if they win or not, but will watch it because it's a game of football on the box, whereas the WC brings a nation behind the same cause, although I admit that my interest in all things England football related is shallow at best

SEMerc wrote:

Perhaps we're looking from different perspectives and maybe even different ideals.

Regards performance do players in general play better for their club or country......invariably it's their club. What produces better entertainment for the TV viewer, generally pulsating matches from the CL on a regular basis or a volume of rather sub standard matches in the WC ? As an extravaganza the WC takes the honours, but IMO for pure quality the CL is the better competition..............all about opinions I guess   

llamedos wrote:

Can't say I disagree with this. I'd rather see Spurs vs Inter, Copenhagen vs Barca than Italy vs New Zealand.

Matty H wrote:

And you just proved my point. You support Spurs, well, you don't actually, but you get my point

I'm sure there would be far more people in Italy and New Zealand that would rather watch that game than Spurs and Inter fans watch the game you highlight.

Fact is the WC is far bigger, far better and carries far more prestige. Ask anyone outside Europe, or to be more precise the fans of the few clubs in the CL how important the CL is to them compared to the WC.

Fergie, as is so often the case, was talking out of his brown hole again

llamedos wrote:

Bigger yes

Matty H wrote:

Case dismissed then. That's my point and Fergie's. He says the CL is bigger than the WC. Clearly it is not. It might mean more to him because his national side is a joke and his club side have no chance of winning the domestic league

Hi John. I don't see them winning anything this year, and if you look back preseason I tipped them to win the league. I think the Rooney debacle will have an underlying effect on the players. You can't tell me they all love him after what's happened, and now he's earning more than double what they are for throwing his toys out of the pram.

Maybe I'll be wrong, but right now I think they're a team in decline

''Asked about Bale once again making mincemeat of Brazil international Maicon, Benitez replied: "Maicon is a very good offensive defender.

"He has more problems when players play like Bale, so we had to help him."

Hmmm, so basically the much touted 'world's best RB' can't defend. I think the Spanish waiter needs therapy. And quick.

Some interesting points regarding CL v WC......I am quite split over which is best CL probably has better quality matches but i enjoy the WC equally. Anyhow.... Fantastic result for Spurs sets them up with a great chance to qualify from a tight group . Man U overcome the Turks but Rangers fall at Valencia and that result may well haunt them in their quest for champs league progression, however Rangers fans will be happy to play Europa league after xmas !!

I think we all agree don't we

Yes the world cup is bigger and carries more prestige, but the quality of football for the 'neutral' is far better in the Champions league.

Let's not forget that there's still a fair share of turgid dross served up in the Champions League (despite Liverpool not being in it this year!). It's not all full-on attack and exhilarating skill.

Good point that, but in the last world cup ALL the games were turgid dross, can't remember a single game that stood out and I watched the lot, maybe a Germany game or too.