Shocking injury and sad to see. Let's hope it is not as bad as first thought for the lad.

Spurs might just live to regret not holding on but they have the quality and pace to worry the other teams in their group.

Man United had enough quality on the pitch to win the game, so credit has to go to Smith and Rangers for getting a point.

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A rubbish performance by Man U - and I enjoyed the link that Merc provided; much bickering between the red scum

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And, nothing personal to the player, like (I wish him well) but it's a bonus that Baconface's skinny-looking squad has lost a player for the season.

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And, nothing personal to the player, like (I wish him well) but it's a bonus that Baconface's skinny-looking squad has lost a player for the season.

The worry is that he might actually get some money to replace him in January, nothing personal as you say but Valencia was never going to be the next Ronaldo, whoever he goes and buys just might be

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The worry is that he might actually get some money to replace him in January, nothing personal as you say but Valencia was never going to be the next Ronaldo, whoever he goes and buys just might be

Good point. I'd have thought he'd want to go for an experienced player if anyone - and we'd know if they were good or not, unlike the situation with The Winker, who all we knew about was that he was tricky on the ball and fell over if you breathed on him.

But you never can tell with Man U. They could still shell out for quality - although not many teams want to part with a top class player in January.

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The worry is that he might actually get some money to replace him in January, nothing personal as you say but Valencia was never going to be the next Ronaldo, whoever he goes and buys just might be

Good point. I'd have thought he'd want to go for an experienced player if anyone - and we'd know if they were good or not, unlike the situation with The Winker, who all we knew about was that he was tricky on the ball and fell over if you breathed on him.

But you never can tell with Man U. They could still shell out for quality - although not many teams want to part with a top class player in January.

I think it unlikely that Man U will shell out big money on a replacement for Valencia.. Fletcher can slot in at RM so can Hargreaves if he ever gets fit. There is also three recognised wide players in the team Giggs, Nani and Obertan and i believe that Rafael could also play in the RM as could Brown or Oshea. So there is plenty of cover but  maybe not a player who has all the qualities of Valencia.

Arsenal and Chelsea both 3-0 up at HT

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Arsenal and Chelsea both 4-0 up

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Very frustrating night for Man U... I was somewhat suprised by SAF team selection, however with a game against Liverpool at the weekend he may have thought he could have rested players and gave some hungry players a chance against a Rangers team on paper that should have been beaten.

It was a very typical Rangers european performance  the type that got them to the europa league final a couple of years ago. Walter set his team out to frustrate the living daylight out of the opponents and it did what it said on the tin. They will do the same at Ibrox and look to nick a goal.

I think that's the way that Rangers will approach the vast majority, if not all, of their European games just now. I reckon that Walter will have learned a lot from the drubbings we received from Sevilla and Unirea at Ibrox last seaon and will know he will have to be more defensive minded in order to hopefully aviod a repeat. Thast was the odd thing about Rangers last year, they did OK away from home in the CL (two draws and one defeat) but were dreadful at Ibrox- lost all three games.

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Very frustrating night for Man U... I was somewhat suprised by SAF team selection, however with a game against Liverpool at the weekend he may have thought he could have rested players and gave some hungry players a chance against a Rangers team on paper that should have been beaten.

It was a very typical Rangers european performance  the type that got them to the europa league final a couple of years ago. Walter set his team out to frustrate the living daylight out of the opponents and it did what it said on the tin. They will do the same at Ibrox and look to nick a goal.

I think that's the way that Rangers will approach the vast majority, if not all, of their European games just now. I reckon that Walter will have learned a lot from the drubbings we received from Sevilla and Unirea at Ibrox last seaon and will know he will have to be more defensive minded in order to hopefully aviod a repeat. Thast was the odd thing about Rangers last year, they did OK away from home in the CL (two draws and one defeat) but were dreadful at Ibrox- lost all three games.

Agree David ...very much back to the football that got them to the final to the Europa league. Its not great to watch but Ranger do have the players who can defend well and who will fight for each other. Walter doesnt have the money or the talent in his squad to compete in any other way. I am sure Walter will look to get 6 points from Buraspor and play the defensive game in his other game against Man U and the two games against Valencia.

Fantasy football at the Emirates last night some great attacking play by the Gunners. Was a total joy to watch and the first time i have seen Chamakh, he looks like an excellent purchase. Braga did not help themselves by playing such an open game which Arsenal took full advantage of.

The result aside..Watching the game and seeing the players on the bench and those who were missing thru injury made me realise what a very strong squad Wenger has.

Fantasy football at the Emirates last night some great attacking play by the Gunners. Was a total joy to watch and the first time i have seen Chamakh, he looks like an excellent purchase. Braga did not help themselves by playing such an open game which Arsenal took full advantage of.

The result aside..Watching the game and seeing the players on the bench and those who were missing thru injury made me realise what a very strong squad Wenger has.

I thought Braga were poor, but as they say you can only play those infront of you.

Vermarlen,Diaby,Rosiky,Walcott & RVP all out, yes Wenger has a strong squad but we have had in the past and still fallen short.............................time will tell.

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I do love watching Arsenal play - if the oppo team doesn't come and park a bus in front their goal.

As a footballing side, they are the equal of any side when on song - and I include Barca in that.

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I do love watching Arsenal play - if the oppo team doesn't come and park a bus in front their goal.

As a footballing side, they are the equal of any side when on song - and I include Barca in that.

Agree with that

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I do love watching Arsenal play - if the oppo team doesn't come and park a bus in front their goal.

As a footballing side, they are the equal of any side when on song - and I include Barca in that.

I didn't see last night's game so I can't comment.

I assume you didn't see the first half of Spurs vs Bremen. Fantasy football that was.

I assume you didn't see the first half of Spurs vs Bremen. Fantasy football that was.

No I didn't - but if it was better than some of the Arsenal stuff, then it must have been fantastic. Fabregas at times last night was jaw-droppingly good. The HT analysis pointed out that he wasn't being picked up 'in the hole' so was being given way too much room. Arsenal must be wishing he'd be given that much room every week!

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I assume you didn't see the first half of Spurs vs Bremen. Fantasy football that was.

No I didn't - but if it was better than some of the Arsenal stuff, then it must have been fantastic. Fabregas at times last night was jaw-droppingly good. The HT analysis pointed out that he wasn't being picked up 'in the hole' so was being given way too much room. Arsenal must be wishing he'd be given that much room every week!

Sounds like Bremen's failure to pick up Van Der Vaart. 

You can tell the time of the year without looking at the calendar. Wenger confident of success.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/a/arsenal/9003331.stm

PS: Spurs fans don't laugh - at least Arsenal will still be 'in the chase' at the end of October.

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You can tell the time of the year without looking at the calendar. Wenger confident of success.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/a/arsenal/9003331.stm

PS: Spurs fans don't laugh - at least Arsenal will still be 'in the chase' at the end of October.

Agreed, Brian, I think Spurs will be ready to throw in the towel probably by the end of September.

You can tell the time of the year without looking at the calendar. Wenger confident of success.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/a/arsenal/9003331.stm

PS: Spurs fans don't laugh - at least Arsenal will still be 'in the chase' at the end of October.

Agreed, Brian, I think Spurs will be ready to throw in the towel probably by the end of September.

I know you're being tongue-in-cheek, but spare a thought for us, whose season actually will be over by the end of October!

 

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