The Weather Outlook

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Gavin D
Sunday, March 4, 2018 7:55:32 PM
CPF February update

March to May

Temperature summary

For March-April-May as a whole, below-average temperatures are marginally more likely than above-average temperatures. Overall, the probability that the UK-average temperature for March-April-May will fall into the coldest of our five categories is around 20% and the probability that it will fall into the warmest of our five categories is between 15 and 20% (the 1981-2010 probability for each of these categories is 20%).

https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/binaries/content/assets/mohippo/pdf/public-sector/forecast-temp-mam-v2.pdf 

Precipitation

For March-April-May as a whole, above-average precipitation is slightly more likely than below-average precipitation. The probability that UK-average precipitation for March-April-May will fall into the driest of our five categories is between 15-20% and the probability that it will fall into the wettest of our five categories is between 25% and 30% (the 1981-2010 probability for each of these categories is 20%).

https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/binaries/content/assets/mohippo/pdf/public-sector/forecast-precip-mam-v2.pdf 

Gavin D
Sunday, March 4, 2018 8:06:50 PM

Countryfile week ahead forecast

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Gavin D
Monday, March 5, 2018 11:22:28 AM
BBC monthly outlook

Monday 5 March—Sunday 11 March

A reduced intensity of cold and snow

With the North Atlantic jet stream still predicted to be displaced well to the south of the UK (over Spain, France and Italy) early next week, we cannot expect a rapid change to mild conditions any time soon. Indeed, temperatures remain below average for early March and further overnight frosts expected, especially in the north. With low pressure areas nearby, further snowfall is expected, especially over northern hills, but the risk is much lower from the Midland southwards. Daytime temperatures should be a little higher than this week, rising to 4-7C quite widely, locally 8-9C in far SW. Winds are unlikely to be very strong and will be much lower than normal in the north.

Low pressure areas will continue to influence the UK during the end of next week, meaning that conditions will remain unsettled. While there is a good chance that winds will pick up at times, after the low wind speeds of earlier in the week, the threat of a strong wind event is low. Temperatures are expected to stay colder than normal for March, especially so over central and northern areas of the UK, with night frosts ongoing. Snowfall can still be expected, particularly on the northern edge of individual low pressure areas, but certainly a lower risk than the past few days.

Monday 12 March—Sunday 18 March

Classic springtime weather - a bit of everything!

The middle part of March will very likely see a real mixture of weather, as high pressure ridges alternate with low pressure influence. However, it seems more likely that the third week of March will be influenced by low pressure on many days, with above normal rainfall amounts, especially in the south. Temperatures struggling to rise above the seasonal average, and snow is still likely to be a threat over some northern hills. However, in the sunshine and out of the wind, it will likely feel quite pleasant and spring like. As we head through to late March, it is more likely that high pressure ridges will develop more widely close to the UK again. This could bring some chilly weather, with frost at night, but in the daytime sunshine, temperatures creeping into the teens.

Monday 19 March—Sunday 1 April

A chillier end to March

As we move towards the end of March, indications are that high pressure should become centred to the west over the mid-Atlantic. This could allow another wave of cold air to sink south across the UK, bringing below average temperatures and a risk of springtime frosts. Rainfall should be near to below normal. The greatest chance of occasional wet weather appears to be across the east rather than the west, but snow should be mostly restricted to northern hills.

Next Update

We will be trying to accurately predict where the high pressure ridges will end up being located during the next few weeks. Wind direction is very important at this time of year for dictating temperature and whether we will see warm sunny days, or cold frosty ones under a high pressure area!

https://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/outlook 

Gavin D
Monday, March 5, 2018 1:23:23 PM
Met office

UK Outlook for Saturday 10 Mar 2018 to Monday 19 Mar 2018:

A very unsettled period, with heavy rain probably moving northwards across much of the UK during the weekend, followed by blustery showers across central and southern parts. There is the low risk of disruptive snow across some northern parts of the UK, which may give some locally significant accumulations, especially over higher ground. Into next week, and it remains unsettled, with further spells of rain, heavy at times, but interspered with brighter and showery interludes. Probably the wettest and windiest conditions likely to be across the south and west. Snow is likely at times in the north, mainly on the hills. Probably staying rather cold in the north, but perhaps becoming mild or very mild in the south and east at times. Overnight frost likely in any brief quieter interludes.

UK Outlook for Tuesday 20 Mar 2018 to Tuesday 3 Apr 2018:

A continuation of rather cold and unsettled conditions seems likely to continue through mid-March, with a risk of further snow at times. The snow will mainly be in the north, with the wettest conditions likely in central and southern parts of the UK. It may then stay unsettled and become milder, as westerly or southwesterly winds return. This is likely to bring wetter conditions in the northwest and drier conditions in the southeast. Temperatures will generally be around the average for the end of March and into early April. Drier, colder and more blocked conditions could still become re-establised at times.

https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/public/weather/forecast 

Gavin D
Monday, March 5, 2018 2:18:01 PM
Further ahead

Staying unsettled

Spells of wind and rain

Still a risk of snow for Scotland

https://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/features/43281850 

backtobasics
Monday, March 5, 2018 6:20:26 PM
Good to see a few references to mild in today’s met office updates, let’s hope that’s a signal that persists
Gavin D
Monday, March 5, 2018 7:54:56 PM
UK weather warning ALERT: Huge Atlantic storm to unleash MORE SNOW and gales THIS WEEKEND

https://www.express.co.uk/news/weather/927537/UK-weather-warning-Met-Office-Atlantic-storm-snow-forecast 

Gavin D
Tuesday, March 6, 2018 12:55:25 PM
Met office

UK Outlook for Sunday 11 Mar 2018 to Tuesday 20 Mar 2018:

A very unsettled period, with rain and hill snow across northern parts of the UK during Sunday, which will be followed by bands of rain and showers, perhaps locally heavy, with the risk of hail and thunder at times. Into next week, and it remains unsettled, with further spells of rain, heavy at times, but interspered with brighter and showery interludes. Probably the wettest and windiest conditions are likely to be across the south and west. Snow is likely at times in the north, mainly on higher ground. Probably staying rather cold in the north, but perhaps becoming milder in the south and east at times. Overnight frost are likely in any brief quieter interludes.

UK Outlook for Wednesday 21 Mar 2018 to Wednesday 4 Apr 2018:

A continuation of rather cold and unsettled conditions seems likely to continue through mid-March, with a risk of further snow at times. The snow will mainly be in the north, with the wettest conditions likely in central and southern parts of the UK. It may then stay unsettled and become milder, as westerly or southwesterly winds return. This is likely to bring wetter conditions in the northwest and drier conditions in the southeast. Temperatures will generally be around the average for the end of March and into early April. Drier, colder and more blocked conditions could still become re-establised at times.

https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/public/weather/forecast 

Gavin D
Tuesday, March 6, 2018 9:14:02 PM
Further ahead

Staying unsettled

Spells of wind and rain

Still a risk of snow

https://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/features/43310878 

johncs2016
Tuesday, March 6, 2018 10:35:50 PM

Further ahead

Staying unsettled
Spells of wind and rain
Still a risk of snow

Originally Posted by: Gavin D 

">https://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/features/43310878

The only signs of spring which I see there comes with the south of England getting that for a brief period, especially when get to the weekend. Otherwise, it's still not looking that great.

 


The north of Edinburgh, usually always missing out on snow events which occur not just within the rest of Scotland or the UK, but also within the rest of Edinburgh.

Gray-Wolf
Tuesday, March 6, 2018 10:59:13 PM

The GFS MJO forecast calling for an over 5 s.d. deviation from the norm would need us nowcasting again surely?

Does any model take its variable inputs out to beyond 5 s.d.'s from the norm?


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Gavin D
Wednesday, March 7, 2018 12:21:46 PM
Met office

UK Outlook for Monday 12 Mar 2018 to Wednesday 21 Mar 2018:

An unsettled period, with spells of heavy rain probably extending northwards across much of the UK early next week, followed by sunny spells and blustery showers. After a milder interlude, there is an increasing risk of snow over northern hills. Becoming increasingly windy, with greatest risk of gales in the south and west. It looks like the unsettled conditions remaining through much of next week and beyond, with further spells of rain, interspersed with brighter and showery interludes. Probably the wettest and windiest conditions across the south and west. Snow remains likely at times in the north, mainly on hills. Probably staying rather cold in the north, but perhaps becoming milder in the south and east at times. Overnight frost and fog patches are likely in any brief quieter interludes.

UK Outlook for Thursday 22 Mar 2018 to Thursday 5 Apr 2018:

Probably continuing unsettled and rather cold with further rain or showers for many, with the risk of snow at times, mainly in the north. The wettest conditions will probably be across central and southern parts of the UK. It may then stay unsettled and become milder, with westerly or southwesterly winds. This is likely to bring wetter conditions in the northwest and drier conditions in the southeast. Temperatures will generally be around the average for the end of March and into early April. However, there remains a small chance that drier, colder and more blocked conditions could still become re-established at times.

https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/public/weather/forecast 

tallyho_83
Wednesday, March 7, 2018 4:28:19 PM
Met Office 10 day trend:


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Gavin D
Wednesday, March 7, 2018 8:45:11 PM
Next week

Rain at times

Sunny spells

Sometimes windy

Turning colder later? (Nothing like last week)

https://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/features/43325027 

Crepuscular Ray
Thursday, March 8, 2018 12:19:40 PM
It's laughable! Snow chaos across Northern England this morning. Motorways and major roads gridlocked. Schools closed and not one weather warning!
Jerry

Edinburgh, in the frost hollow below Blackford Hill

Arcus
Thursday, March 8, 2018 12:32:16 PM

It's laughable! Snow chaos across Northern England this morning. Motorways and major roads gridlocked. Schools closed and not one weather warning!

Originally Posted by: Crepuscular Ray 

There was a yellow warning in place overnight that expired at 11am, but I think the coverage of snow certainly at lower levels was underestimated. The forecast from MetO for Yorks was for rain, sleet and hill snow this morning, but it looks to me as though it was an all-snow event even at those lower levels.


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Crepuscular Ray
Thursday, March 8, 2018 12:48:28 PM
Indeed Ben. My daughter has just spent 6 hours trying to get to Newcastle from Nottingham. She got as far as Leeds which was in chaos and turned back. She's just reached Sheffield. My Mum has 3 ins of snow in Otley at 60m amsl! The event slipped under my radar!
Jerry

Edinburgh, in the frost hollow below Blackford Hill

Gavin D
Thursday, March 8, 2018 1:10:44 PM
Met office

UK Outlook for Tuesday 13 Mar 2018 to Thursday 22 Mar 2018:

It will be fairly unsettled through next week, with outbreaks of rain at times, heaviest in the west and southwest of the UK where gales are possible too. There is a risk of snow over northern hills, but temperatures will be around normal for the time of year with frost and fog possible overnight. The unsettled conditions will remain through the rest of the period, with further spells of rain, interspersed with brighter and showery interludes. There is a risk it could turn colder again with a greater chance of overnight frosts for all, but snow will mainly be confined to the north of the UK, and will mainly be falling across the hills and high ground, with outbreaks of rain more likely in the south.

UK Outlook for Friday 23 Mar 2018 to Friday 6 Apr 2018:

There is a lot of uncertainty in this period, and the forecast may change nearer the time. It will probably be unsettled and rather cold with rain or showers for many, and the risk of snow at times, mainly in the north. It may then stay unsettled and become milder, with westerly or southwesterly winds. This is likely to bring wetter conditions in the northwest and drier conditions in the southeast. Temperatures will generally be around the average for the end of March and into early April. However, there remains a small chance that drier and colder conditions could still affect the UK at times.

https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/public/weather/forecast 

Gavin D
Thursday, March 8, 2018 9:45:01 PM
End of next week

Rain at times

Sunny spells

Sometimes windy

Turning a little colder

https://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/features/43339317 

noodle doodle
Thursday, March 8, 2018 10:04:25 PM

Red Timeline ( from the BBC)

 

Previous red warnings

The current traffic light warning system only came into force in 2011.

This is the 9th red weather warning of any type for anywhere in the UK since then.

This is the second red warning for snow and the first in Scotland.

The last time the Met Office issued a Red warning was on 29 January 2016 for storm-force winds across Orkney and Shetland

Previous Red warnings were:

  • 26 December 2015 for heavy rain across Lancashire and Yorkshire.
  • 5 December 2015 for heavy rain across parts of Cumbria and the Scottish Borders (Storm Desmond)
  • 12 February 2014 for severe galesacross Wales and northern England
  • 18 January 2013 for snow in south Wales
  • 7 July 2012 for rain in SW Devon and E Cornwall
  • 3 January 2012 for storm-force winds in the Central Belt of Scotland
  • 8 December 2011 for severe gales in central and southern Scotland

Originally Posted by: ballogie 

 

reet, I went looking for this because I'm like that, and because I definitely remember a red alert for edinburgh for snow in 2010

 

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/red-alert-in-edinburgh-as-winter-bites-1078785

"And the Met Office issued their most serious warning - flashing a red alert for the Edinburgh area."

This is datemarked Dec 20, 2010 which is about right

 

I suppose the met office might argue that's an 'alert' rather than a 'warning' but they're synonyms of each other so they don't get away with that in my book :-)

Joe Bloggs
Thursday, March 8, 2018 10:17:18 PM

 

 

reet, I went looking for this because I'm like that, and because I definitely remember a red alert for edinburgh for snow in 2010

 

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/red-alert-in-edinburgh-as-winter-bites-1078785

"And the Met Office issued their most serious warning - flashing a red alert for the Edinburgh area."

This is datemarked Dec 20, 2010 which is about right

 

I suppose the met office might argue that's an 'alert' rather than a 'warning' but they're synonyms of each other so they don't get away with that in my book :-)

Originally Posted by: noodle doodle 

Yes you’re right - Edinburgh definitely had a red warning for snow in December 2010. I remember it. 

If I remember correctly when they actually issued the red warning the conditions weren’t as bad as they were earlier in the month - can’t remember the exact date. 

Somerset had one a week or so earlier.. last week’s also wasn’t England’s first red warning for snow. 

johncs2016
Thursday, March 8, 2018 10:31:28 PM

End of next week

Rain at times
Sunny spells
Sometimes windy
Turning a little colder

Originally Posted by: Gavin D 

">https://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/features/43339317

I've just looked at that, and I'm not convinced from that, that next week will be as unsettled in this part of the world as what Gavin P. was hinting at in his most recent videos.

From what I can see, it is likely to be a different story down south but in actual fact, it looks as though all of the the weather systems which are shown there with the exception of the one which will be arriving over the weekend from the south, will be staying to the south of here if that forecast was to end up being correct.

This would then mean that there's not actually that much in the way of rain on the horizon here during next week, once we get this weekend's rain out of the way. With double figures temperatures as well by Sunday, it would still appear as though things are possibly looking up for here as I mentioned yesterday on the Model Output thread.

 

 


The north of Edinburgh, usually always missing out on snow events which occur not just within the rest of Scotland or the UK, but also within the rest of Edinburgh.

DEW
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Friday, March 9, 2018 7:58:56 AM

 

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/red-alert-in-edinburgh-as-winter-bites-1078785

"And the Met Office issued their most serious warning - flashing a red alert for the Edinburgh area."

This is datemarked Dec 20, 2010 which is about right

 

I suppose the met office might argue that's an 'alert' rather than a 'warning' but they're synonyms of each other so they don't get away with that in my book :-)

Originally Posted by: noodle doodle 

But does the press know the difference? I'd trust the MetO records over an editor in search of a tasty headline.


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Joe Bloggs
Friday, March 9, 2018 10:48:16 AM

 

But does the press know the difference? I'd trust the MetO records over an editor in search of a tasty headline.

Originally Posted by: DEW 

The Met Office definitely issued a red warning in Dec 2010 for Edinburgh. I was living there at the time and remember it well.

They'd also issued one for the Somerset area for snow, a week or so earlier.

I'm confused by this talk of "red warnings for the first time", last week. Not true.

howham
Friday, March 9, 2018 11:16:43 AM

 

The Met Office definitely issued a red warning in Dec 2010 for Edinburgh. I was living there at the time and remember it well.

They'd also issued one for the Somerset area for snow, a week or so earlier.

I'm confused by this talk of "red warnings for the first time", last week. Not true.

Originally Posted by: Joe Bloggs 

 

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/red-alert-in-edinburgh-as-winter-bites-1078785

I think the new (current) system was implemented in 2011.  Maybe that's what they mean so there was a "red alert" in 2010 but perhaps under the old system it wasn't quite so well defined as it is now with the impact matrix.

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