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sizzle
27 December 2016 13:35:02

ive just read the weather-outlook winter forecast and It does suggest a cold snap/spell in JAN. followed by mild. there seems to be more mild weather mentioned in the winter 16/17 forecast than cold weather and it does not say anything about long prolonged cold weather but leaning towards more of the mild option/wet and windy. so saying that any cold snaps/spells looks to be short lived, BUT WHO KNOWS

Solar Cycles
27 December 2016 14:01:07

GFS parallel for me this morning please!

 

 

 

Originally Posted by: GlenH 

Not to be scoffed at as it's been performing rather well of late. Will the new and improved GFS be the new messiah? 😄

doctormog
27 December 2016 14:02:29
I guess we will have to put up with the risk of repeated northerly outbreaks hey Ian? And we know when they set in they can last for 6 or 7 weeks.
llamedos
27 December 2016 14:40:35

I guess we will have to put up with the risk of repeated northerly outbreaks hey Ian? And we know when they set in they can last for 6 or 7 weeks.

Originally Posted by: doctormog 

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Joe Bloggs
27 December 2016 14:41:44

The 06z ensembles are certainly poorer than the 00z.

Roll on the 12z runs! 

 

KevBrads1
27 December 2016 14:50:00

From what I recall, is that the cold blast just after the New Year wasn't a certainty a few days ago. Everything seems to be firming up on this.


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Gooner
27 December 2016 14:54:41

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Should help our chase


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Joe Bloggs
27 December 2016 14:55:09

From what I recall, is that the cold blast just after the New Year wasn't a certainty a few days ago. Everything seems to be firming up on this.

Originally Posted by: KevBrads1 

Indeed. 

Everyone sometimes just needs to take a bit of a breather and stop making sweeping statements after every run. 

The trend is still very much to be cold and wintry, this mornings runs were very promising. 

The 06z GFES are poorer but it may just be a blip rather than a new trend. 

sizzle
27 December 2016 15:15:33

there seems to be a lot of IFS and BUTS heading towards this MAYBE cold spell. like gavin P just said in his vid if we are on the cold side of the blocking its going to be VERY cold if we are on the mild side of the blocking its going to be very MILD 50/50  like always it looks good from FI viewing but nearer the time it always gets downgraded or becomes the good old fashion RED HERRING

sizzle
27 December 2016 15:43:06

http://www.netweather.tv/index.cgi?action=news;storyid=7866;sess=   matt hugo synoptic guidance 2017 JAN.

JACKO4EVER
27 December 2016 15:49:41

All eyes on the 12z, though I have a nasty feeling this is slipping away from what was looking like a decent event, albeit partly in FI. As much as Ian is maligned, his take that the modelling in the gin sea area could have been the difference, this now coming to the table in the 06z output. Very small differences with how any potential height rises are handled here evolve into a huge differences for our part of the world. Personally I don't think strat conditions are helping our cause, I wouldn't at all be surprised to see the HP sinking with yet further SW orientated episodes though not particularly zonal.

Ally Pally Snowman
27 December 2016 15:59:25

Massive set of 12z coming up. Let's hope we roll a double 6!

 


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Joe Bloggs
27 December 2016 16:02:08

This isn't necessarily a done deal after the 12z runs. The runs could be crap and improve tomorrow, or be decent and backtrack tomorrow.

Nothing is simple and one is at risk of being driven absolutely insane! :-) 

KevBrads1
27 December 2016 16:13:07

No chance of a cut off low forming as the front pushes southwards as with early December 1990....?


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White Meadows
27 December 2016 16:13:17

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Should help our chase

Originally Posted by: Gooner 

Certainly does, and this is also a good early indicator:

http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/precip/CWlink/pna/nao.sprd2.gif

12z has the first Atlantic high better aligned than the 06z so far

Gooner
27 December 2016 16:17:17

This isn't necessarily a done deal after the 12z runs. The runs could be crap and improve tomorrow, or be decent and backtrack tomorrow.

Nothing is simple and one is at risk of being driven absolutely insane! :-) 

Originally Posted by: Joe Bloggs 

I agree, I never get the " the next run is vital" bit..........


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Gooner
27 December 2016 16:21:29

GFS 120

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Gooner
27 December 2016 16:23:28

UKMO 144 - Interesting indeed

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Joe Bloggs
27 December 2016 16:41:58

12z GFS and MetO both very positive for coldies IMO. 

David M Porter
27 December 2016 16:44:25

12z GFS and MetO both very positive for coldies IMO. 

Originally Posted by: Joe Bloggs 

Indeed, Joe. I've seen much worse charts for coldies in the past; earlier this month at times for starters!


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Weathermac
27 December 2016 16:47:07

 

Indeed, Joe. I've seen much worse charts for coldies in the past; earlier this month at times for starters!

Originally Posted by: David M Porter 

that 6 weeks of zonality sure went quick tongue-out

Looking good to me not severe cold but cold frosty and maybe foggy . 

Joe Bloggs
27 December 2016 16:49:22

Not a million miles from an easterly into the early reaches of FI.

In the meantime, cold! 

David M Porter
27 December 2016 16:51:51

 

that 6 weeks of zonality sure went quick tongue-out

Originally Posted by: Weathermac 

Either that, or I've been asleep for the last six weeks.


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doctormog
27 December 2016 16:52:39
Yes, overall a chilly theme on the 12z data so far and one of the more anticyclonic options in the GFS FI section. Before then the start of the new year looks nice and wintry in places.

Is the a saying New Year New Weather? Perhaps there should be. All rather seasonal with some snow potential - the trend continues.


Gooner
27 December 2016 16:55:47

144 Met O is the pick so far IMO , January could prove to be a very interesting month


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