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Stormchaser
19 February 2015 20:13:24

So the provisional Hadley CET is now a whole degree Celsius above my local mean... I am not amused.


Using 3.5*C to 18th as a starting point, the 12z GFS produces a final CET of around 3.8*C.


Allowing for adjustments to the CET it could be as low as 3.6*C but I'm not counting on it. A 1.0*C error is not bad going for the model + signal projection I suppose, though it looks like using a model + LTA combination (i.e. just going for an average second half of the month instead of applying a cold or warm anomaly signal) would have landed closer.


 


I wonder if March will have a clear signal one way or the other by the final days of this month. At the moment, longer range tools keep switching between high latitude blocking and a strong Azores High extending across the south of the UK... two opposing extremes! 


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ARTzeman
20 February 2015 11:22:16

Met Office Hadley     3.6c...     Anomaly     -0.0c.    Provisional  to 19th.


Metcheck                 3.50c.     Anomaly     -0.70c.


N-W                        3.65c.     Anomaly     -056c.


Mount   Sorrel          2.9c.      Anomaly      -1.3c.


My    Mean               2.9c.      Anomaly      -2.9c.


    






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ARTzeman
21 February 2015 11:35:09

Met Office Hadley    3.7c.     Anomaly        0.0c.  Provisional to 20th.


Metcheck                3.49c.   Anomaly       -0.7c.


N-W                       3.68c.   Anomaly       -0.53c.


Mount Sorrel           2.9c.    Anomaly        -1.3c


My Mean                 3.0c.    Anomaly        -2.8c.         






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ARTzeman
22 February 2015 11:48:25

Met Office Hadley     3.7c.     Anomaly     0.0c.   provisional  to  21st.


Metcheck                 3.42c.   Anomaly    -0.78c.


N-W                        3.66c.   Anomaly    -0.55c.


Mount   Sorrel          2.9c.     Anomaly    -1.3c.


My    Mean               3.0c.     Anomaly    -2.8c.


 


My Annual  reads 4.0c. Anomaly -1.7c.   






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ARTzeman
23 February 2015 10:42:50

Met Office Hadley      3.7c.     Anomaly     0.0c.      Provisional to  22nd.


Metcheck                   3.47c.   Anomaly    -0.73c.


N-W                            3.66c.   Anomaly    -0.55c


Mount       Sorrel           2.9c.     Anomaly    -1.3c.


My      Mean                   3.0c.     Anomaly    -2.7c.


 






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ARTzeman
24 February 2015 11:22:36

 Met Office Hadley      3.7c.      Anomaly       0.0c.   Provisional to 23rd.


 Metcheck                  3.53c.    Anomaly       -0.67c.


 N-W                          3.71c.   Anomaly       -0.5c.


 Mount  Sorrel             2.9c.     Anomaly       -1.3c


 My    Mean                 3.1c.     Anomaly       -2.6c.


       






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Caz
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24 February 2015 21:26:23

I'd be surprised if there was much change in the CET now and it's probably as high as it's going to get.  I could do with just a couple of degrees higher.


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Global Warming
24 February 2015 21:30:39

Latest data suggests the CET will finish at 4.01C this month which is 0.2C below the 1971-2000 mean.


Tomorrow and Saturday should be a little above average. Thursday looks very warm largely due to high minimums whereas Friday will be close to average. So the CET should rise by about 0.4C in the next 4 days.


Looking at the winter CET as a whole the current estimate is for a final figure of 4.53C compared to the 1971-2000 mean of 4.51C and a 1981-2010 mean of 4.49C. So this year will be bang on average overall.


CET for the first half of winter 5.5C. CET for the second half of winter 3.6C.

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24 February 2015 21:38:45

A finish of 4.01c would be just perfect for me GW!   


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Global Warming
24 February 2015 21:41:58

First 10 days of March currently looking close to average at 5.95C (about 0.2C above average).


The first day of the month should be very mild but then temperatures will be about +-1C from the mean on each of the next 9 days.

Global Warming
24 February 2015 21:44:17


A finish of 4.01c would be just perfect for me GW!   


In all the years I've taken part in the CET competition, I think this is the first time I've been at the top of the table and I'm loving it! 


Originally Posted by: Caz 


Unfortunately your late prediction for February (which was technically outside the window for even a late prediction) is going to land you with a hefty penalty which is a shame. Looks like it was a very good prediction.

nouska
25 February 2015 09:11:08


 


Unfortunately your late prediction for February (which was technically outside the window for even a late prediction) is going to land you with a hefty penalty which is a shame. Looks like it was a very good prediction.


Originally Posted by: Global Warming 


Such a shame when that happens - meanwhile some of us can penalise ourselves.....

Gavin P
25 February 2015 09:14:28


First 10 days of March currently looking close to average at 5.95C (about 0.2C above average).


Originally Posted by: Global Warming 


Certainly seem's like we've lost the insane warmth of 2014, even if we've not gone especially cold... (yet  )


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ARTzeman
25 February 2015 11:33:54

Met Office Hadley           3.8c.       Anomaly    0.1c.   Provisional to 24th.


Metcheck                       3.59c.     Anomaly   -0.61c.


N-W                               3.8c.       Anomaly    -0.41c.


Mount  Sorrel                 2.9c.       Anomaly    -1.3c.


My Mean                        3.2c.       Anomaly    -2.5c     






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25 February 2015 16:37:15


Unfortunately your late prediction for February (which was technically outside the window for even a late prediction) is going to land you with a hefty penalty which is a shame. Looks like it was a very good prediction.


Originally Posted by: Global Warming 

It was unfortunate that I was sunning myself in the Caribbean () and it's a pity I didn't think to pm you before I went but it was a nice surprise seeing my name at the top of January's table when I got back.  


I'll take the penalties on the nose like a man and put in a big effort with my guesses for the next ten months! 


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springsunshine
25 February 2015 17:35:45


 


Certainly seem's like we've lost the insane warmth of 2014, even if we've not gone especially cold... (yet  )


Originally Posted by: Gavin P 


True! However the first 2 months of 2015 look v likely to come in above average,albeit only slightly.


If im not mistaken that will make 14 out of the last 15 months above the cet average.

Grandad
25 February 2015 20:49:26


Latest data suggests the CET will finish at 4.01C this month which is 0.2C below the 1971-2000 mean.


Tomorrow and Saturday should be a little above average. Thursday looks very warm largely due to high minimums whereas Friday will be close to average. So the CET should rise by about 0.4C in the next 4 days.


Looking at the winter CET as a whole the current estimate is for a final figure of 4.53C compared to the 1971-2000 mean of 4.51C and a 1981-2010 mean of 4.49C. So this year will be bang on average overall.


CET for the first half of winter 5.5C. CET for the second half of winter 3.6C.


Originally Posted by: Global Warming 


GW


Any possibility you can post your graphs of the ongoing daily temps of the 3 stations plus yours plus the current projections, plus Hadley out to end of the month? Also what do you see as an adjustemnt this month? 

Stormchaser
25 February 2015 21:01:31

Disappointed to see the models adjust things to milder still for the final few days of the month but what can you do eh?


Atmosphere one, models (mostly GFS for first 16 days followed by long range signals from EC-32 etc.) zero.


 


By contrast, it's an adjustment colder that alarms me for next month... GFS 12z leaves us nearly 2*C below the LTA by 9th of the month as signs of a cold continental feed develop further! 


 


The signals are starting to look a bit like they once did for the middle of February. Hopefully this one will go the way of the pear too.


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ARTzeman
26 February 2015 12:20:08

Met Office Hadley      3.9c.      Anomaly     0.2c.    Provisional  to  25th.


Metcheck                  3.82c.    Anomaly    -0.38c.


N-W                         3.97c.    Anomaly    -0.24c


Mount  Sorrel            2.9c.     Anomaly     -1.3c.


My Mean                   3.4c.     Anomaly     -2.3c.


  






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ARTzeman
27 February 2015 12:32:18

Met Office Hadley   4.1c.     Anomaly     0.3c.  Provisional to 26th.


Metcheck              3.81c.    Anomaly    -0.39c.


N-W                     4.11c.    Anomaly    -0.1c.


Mount Sorrel         2.9c.      Anomaly    -1.3c.  Been the same for days.. Since the 14th Feb.....


My Mean              3.5c.       Anomaly    -2.2c.






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roger63
27 February 2015 14:17:20


Met Office Hadley   4.1c.     Anomaly     0.3c.  Provisional to 26th.


Metcheck              3.81c.    Anomaly    -0.39c.


N-W                     4.11c.    Anomaly    -0.1c.


Mount Sorrel         2.9c.      Anomaly    -1.3c.  Been the same for days.. Since the 14th Feb.....


My Mean              3.5c.       Anomaly    -2.2c.


Originally Posted by: ARTzeman 


With two days to go my 4.2 looks promising -but what downward adjustment is likely.?

Caz
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27 February 2015 17:24:01

I could do with it being bang on 4c and although it's likely there will be a downward adjustment, I doubt it will be quite enough.


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Global Warming
27 February 2015 21:49:30


I could do with it being bang on 4c and although it's likely there will be a downward adjustment, I doubt it will be quite enough.


Originally Posted by: Caz 


I don't think you will be far off. My latest estimate suggests a final figure of 3.99C



 

Saint Snow
27 February 2015 23:56:02


 


I don't think you will be far off. My latest estimate suggests a final figure of 3.99C


Originally Posted by: Global Warming 


 


There'll be a 0.9c downwards revision, surely!



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28 February 2015 09:28:37

 


There'll be a 0.9c downwards revision, surely!


Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 

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