Moan about that snow lovers!!!! 🤣🤣😜

It all down to stupid models blocking our chances to get 80’s winter type and last night we had unexpected snowfall leaving up to 1cm on settled surfaces.  As if the snow trying to sneak in without the Scrooge idiots models knowing it before it run away again as milder air get in.   

You've seen more snow than we've had in 5 years here.

I continue to think that the best chance of seeing snow on the ground here is as the block collapses late next week, but I'll not get my hopes up. It really is most frustrating how snowless it's been down here, considering how snowy it used to be in the first half of my life!

Yes I seen more snow but less cold temperatures really irritating as I want like what I seen in the past.  My concern that this winter in Lapland to Europe having excellent deep cold winter might not have this next winter for us as tap to it.  

It's because there's been an ESE'ly steering flow, the deep cold has been pulsing over Shetland, missing most of the UK. Shetland, incidentally, has a snow warning today and there's plenty of snow there on the MetO raw forecast. If only, eh?

Yep, true. The 'earthnullskool' windflow map confirms:

https://earth.nullschool.net/#current/wind/surface/level/orthographic=-6.63,58.14,2005/loc=0.098,51.662 

It is interesting though that the winds over Scotland are coming straight in from the Baltic. Can only imagine the brutish windchill that is bringing there. 

Why would the models block the chances of cold? They don't make the weather, they just forecast it. If they back away from a cold spell it's because their algorithm has interpreted more up to date data and suggested that the chances of cold have decreased.

Yes likely good chance like in the 80's as there was no models existing that time.  See how the snow sneaked in here last night and caught out everyone surprise when the models was very persistant saying NO NO NO as Maggie Thatcher say before,

I've been wondering that if this winters synoptic pattern had occurred in 1947 would it have been similar?

It feels like we’ve been flogging a dead horse now for weeks and I can’t wait for the sun and warmth and please something dry.

Just wait till April - the Beast will finally find its satnav and roar into the country in a rage of wet snow that settles into a mass of slushy puddles.

Roll on spring.

I'd happily take that, but it's not snowed in April here since 1984, I think it was, I've a picture of my 4-year-old self grinning away in the snow, next to my granddad. Funny to think last century there was snow in June, sleet in September... all before I was born, but there nonetheless. 

I think I've realised what my feelings are regarding the loss of snow and winters of my youth are... it's a sort of yearning, wistful feeling, a wish that I'd just realised what was to come and enjoyed it more, not taken it for granted. It's the same feeling I have when I remember my mum died 25 years ago next month... it's bereavement. 

We need a break down to come asap to get rid of it.  I had to wipe dry the conservatory windows inside as it been so damp after no sun for weeks.  By now it would be in the low 20's and high 20's at end of the month like last year did.  

We had autumn, a touch of winterishness in January, but soon back to autumn.

It's the Jim Bowen winter - 'Look what you could have won!'

Last winter was much the same too, condensed into a single week in January.

it also today 35 years since -5C and -11C recorded on 7th Feb 1991 the coldest and last time to see -5c maxes, next day was -4.5, then -3.7 and -3.8 to -1 before went to 1C and -12c at night.  Was -2C ib 6th, 2c on 5th and 8C on 4th.  I thought that time -5C was normal for a cold spell I mean cold spell consist of subzero temperatures not the modern cold spells that come with less cold temperatures.

Agree - that 1991 was like many winters in the 60s and the 80s in particular, and was not And did not seem to those that lived through it, to be in any way abnormal. Nowadays, we would think this as extraordinary. That is explained by their fact back then, the climate was 0.5 above pre-industrial times And now it is 1.5 degrees above. Huge difference both in winter and summer.  I dread to think how t will fee with 3 degrees above: Total nightmare! But it is enviable now.