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ballamar
01 January 2026 16:32:56
This really is close to a decent cold set-up https://www.wetterzentrale.de/en/topkarten.php?map=1&model=gfs&var=1&run=12&time=162&lid=OP&h=0&mv=0&tr=6#mapref

Potential this season for cold is definitely higher than usual. 

squish
01 January 2026 16:41:51
I’ll take the UKMO 12z.  Back to what it was hinting at yesterday in building a cold Scandinavian block 
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marco 79
01 January 2026 16:44:34
Yep GEM would obliterate the Midlands southwards at 192hs...As in the words of an Arsenal supporter who used to frequent on here... JFF 
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Brian Gaze
01 January 2026 16:45:09
UK Met also showing changeable conditions next week.

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Retron
01 January 2026 16:45:53
Have to say, the output at the moment is remarkable. Not just for the volatility, but for the synoptics being shown. I can't recall the last time I saw the sort of mushy looking charts that GFS is generating at the moment, for example; they're full of trough disruption and lows popping up around the UK and it all looks very unusual.

Even the ridge to our west at T+42 has some random lows embedded in it! Those "1025"s are lows, not a high...

https://images.meteociel.fr/im/7/27735/gfs_0_42vyp8.png 

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Ally Pally Snowman
01 January 2026 16:48:05

I’ll take the UKMO 12z.  Back to what it was hinting at yesterday in building a cold Scandinavian block 

Originally Posted by: squish 

Indeed UKMO turns into a peach of a run.

https://www.wetterzentrale.de/en/topkarten.php?map=1&model=ukmhd&var=1&run=12&time=168&lid=OP&h=0&mv=0&tr=6#mapref 


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Hippydave
01 January 2026 16:52:11

Taking the T168 snapshot (UKMO viewable extent) I'd say slack, chilly or cold and messy is a strong possibility looking at GFS, ICON and UKMO. That takes us to 8th Jan which would represent a delay to cold air leaving the UK. 

The UKMO is probably the best of the runs so far IMO, although how the HP over Scandi interacts to the HP cell to the SW, assuming it did, would be fairly pivotal. It doesn't scream rapid collapse to mild though. 

GFS is a bit uninspiring at T240, with HP too close to the UK diverting LPs and allowing a thick wedge of milder air to be dragged our way. May be a blip but assume will depend on the fairly active jet streak exiting Canada and exact angle that takes over the Atlantic. 

All in all though not bad so far. 

In terms of tomorrow's precip, all a smidge further west so far and less organised, suggesting I may be back to missing out although might see a few flakes even so. 

Edit: didn't mean to quote you, hit wrong button 😂 to answer the post as I've quoted it, yep GEM looking interesting too so far! Post the clean northerly interlude it's all looking like the kind of set up that can lead to unexpected if temporary snowfalls almost anywhere (according to this evening's ops anyway). 


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Snow Hoper
01 January 2026 16:58:23
Didn't someone say about missing data for new years day as well as Christmas? 
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Retron
01 January 2026 17:01:51
It's worth mentioning that even without snow, this is shaping up to be a remarkable spell in modern terms. The GFS, for example, has these maxes here over the following week, starting with tomorrow:

3/1/1/1/1/1/2

Given the average high this time of year is a smidge over 8C, that's very cold indeed. 

Even the more conservative MetO raw has 3/2/2/2/4/4, and both models have penetrating frosts by night. 

I think this is going to end up as one of those wonderfully wintry spells with white frost building up day by day, with water freezing and staying frozen until the spell finally breaks, whenever that might be. I suspect also people will be tempted to try and walk across frozen ponds etc, which might cause problems!


Leysdown, north Kent
Retron
01 January 2026 17:04:25

Didn't someone say about missing data for new years day as well as Christmas? 

Originally Posted by: Snow Hoper 

Yes, there are fewer flights on NYD compared to the surrounding days, but the effect is nowhere near as marked (we lose 75% of flight data on Christmas Day, or rather the 2600 run due to it still being Christmas in the States). The NYD data loss is closer to 30%, but this year figures aren't available as the ECM website is playing up. 

You could usually spot the "Christmas effect" on the models, but the NYD one was always much more subtle and in recent years it's not been apparent at all really.


Leysdown, north Kent
Rob K
01 January 2026 17:06:36
GEM 12Z winds up quite a low in the Channel at 192 hours. 
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Retron
01 January 2026 17:22:04
An exceptional set of GEFS ensembles for London so far:

https://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/gefs_table.php?ext=1&x=&lat=51.5085&lon=-0.12574&ville=Londres 

30 of 31 members hit -10, and the remaining one gets to -9.9. It's been a long while since we've seen that at anything beyond T+24 or so!


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ballamar
01 January 2026 17:26:24

GEM 12Z winds up quite a low in the Channel at 192 hours. 

Originally Posted by: Rob K 

The next chart at 252 would be carnage in some parts! Obviously won’t be exactly like that but the models seem to have caught on to a change for the colder. 

David M Porter
01 January 2026 17:40:42

There are quite significant differences in the earlyish sections of all the 12z models that are out so far. More twists and turns to come by the look of things.

Originally Posted by: doctormog 

Happy New Year to you Michael, and to all other members of TWO. 👍

I think "twists and turns" is a phrase that very succinctly sums up much of the model output we have witnessed since the start of the festive season, as it has seemed to me that no two day's output has been the same. It has sure been a far cry from the endlessly zonal output we saw daily during the first fortnight of December.


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01 January 2026 17:43:37

Have to say, the output at the moment is remarkable. Not just for the volatility, but for the synoptics being shown. I can't recall the last time I saw the sort of mushy looking charts that GFS is generating at the moment, for example; they're full of trough disruption and lows popping up around the UK and it all looks very unusual.

Even the ridge to our west at T+42 has some random lows embedded in it! Those "1025"s are lows, not a high...

https://images.meteociel.fr/im/7/27735/gfs_0_42vyp8.png 

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Originally Posted by: Retron 

The closest I can recall is ~January 1977.

Ally Pally Snowman
01 January 2026 17:47:30
AIFS 12z another beauty.  4 in a row
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01 January 2026 17:52:43

An exceptional set of GEFS ensembles for London so far:

https://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/gefs_table.php?ext=1&x=&lat=51.5085&lon=-0.12574&ville=Londres 

30 of 31 members hit -10, and the remaining one gets to -9.9. It's been a long while since we've seen that at anything beyond T+24 or so!

Originally Posted by: Retron 

Welcome surprise for 01st Jan.

GEM keeps the cold pattern cleaner than the latest GFS and avoids an outright Atlantic push. Still lacking a defined southern feature to satisfy snow starved Londoners south of M4, but this is a more supportive backdrop for wintry potential than some of the recent GFS output. Not an upgrade to a snow event yet, but certainly not a write-off either.


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Brian Gaze
01 January 2026 17:57:54
Here's Jan 1977.

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Chunky Pea
01 January 2026 17:59:32

It's worth mentioning that even without snow, this is shaping up to be a remarkable spell in modern terms. The GFS, for example, has these maxes here over the following week, starting with tomorrow:

3/1/1/1/1/1/2

Given the average high this time of year is a smidge over 8C, that's very cold indeed. 

Even the more conservative MetO raw has 3/2/2/2/4/4, and both models have penetrating frosts by night. 

I think this is going to end up as one of those wonderfully wintry spells with white frost building up day by day, with water freezing and staying frozen until the spell finally breaks, whenever that might be. I suspect also people will be tempted to try and walk across frozen ponds etc, which might cause problems!

Originally Posted by: Retron 

You are getting the brunt it seems. Forecast maxima for here for the next week is for between 3 & 7c, with perhaps the chance something marginally below zero by night (if the cloud sufficently breaks... which it likely won't) which is far from remarkable for the time of year. This spell won't be a patch on the real frozen spell of December 2022. 


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Brian Gaze
01 January 2026 18:01:59

AIFS 12z another beauty.  4 in a row

Originally Posted by: Ally Pally Snowman 

It looks fairly dry until a more assertive Atlantic push which brings a snow to rain event later on.

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Retron
01 January 2026 18:02:23
Looks like a couple of snow events on tonight's ECM - the first one being a front that takes an age to clear eastwards, followed by a second one a bit later on which dumps a lot of snow before turning back to rain. The Atlantic air finally reaches London after 192. 

https://meteologix.com/uk/model-charts/euro/europe/significant-weather/20260109-1200z.html 

Here's the snow depth chart at 192 - the stuff in the SE soon thaws, but further north it hangs around for longer.

https://meteologix.com/uk/model-charts/euro/united-kingdom/snow-depth/20260109-1200z.html 


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Ally Pally Snowman
01 January 2026 18:42:44
Ally Pally Snowman
01 January 2026 18:46:52

It looks fairly dry until a more assertive Atlantic push which brings a snow to rain event later on.

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Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 

Looks like a snow event Wednesday 7th morning???

https://www.wetterzentrale.de/en/topkarten.php?map=20&model=aifs&var=4&run=12&time=138&lid=OP&h=0&mv=0&tr=6#mapref 


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tallyho_83
01 January 2026 18:52:59
What I have noticed with 12z is at +192 to +198z both GEM and AIF are keen on seeing this channel low which could produce something interesting for the south if this came off: - One to watch!?

12z AIF @ 192/198z:

https://www.wetterzentrale.de/maps/AIFSOPEU12_192_1.png 

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GEM12z: @ +192/198z

https://www.wetterzentrale.de/maps/GEMOPEU12_192_1.png 

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GFS 12z Op run has it further north but in cold airmass which could turn rain to snow as it moves away eastwards @ +192z:

https://www.wetterzentrale.de/maps/GFSOPEU12_192_1.png 

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ECM 12z Has it further north but could bring a period of sleet and snow before?

https://www.wetterzentrale.de/maps/ECMOPEU12_192_1.png 

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