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The Beast from the East
02 January 2026 09:35:56

Even the AIFS has gone milder on the 00Z update, sadly. Still I am sure there are plenty of twists and turns to come. 

Originally Posted by: Rob K 

But usually when you get a mild flip, its stays, doesnt usually flip back.  Meltdown on netweather


Purley, Surrey, 70m ASL

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The Beast from the East
02 January 2026 09:39:14
sadly ICON 06z is turning. i guess the jet being fired by all that cold air coming off the eastern seaboard.

No Darren this morning says it all really


Purley, Surrey, 70m ASL

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Rob K
02 January 2026 09:40:58
The ICON-EU output looks quite interesting for Tuesday!
Yateley, NE Hampshire, 73m asl

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Ally Pally Snowman
02 January 2026 09:43:19

The ICON-EU output looks quite interesting for Tuesday!

Originally Posted by: Rob K 

Yes a growing theme of a fairly widespread snow event Tuesday night.


Bishop's Stortford 85m ASL.
Ally Pally Snowman
02 January 2026 09:44:40
ECM ensembles this morning are still OK just. We don't want anymore downgrades though.

https://www.wetterzentrale.de/en/show_diagrams.php?geoid=50893&model=ecm&var=2&run=0&lid=ENS&bw=1 


Bishop's Stortford 85m ASL.
Rob K
02 January 2026 09:58:45

But usually when you get a mild flip, its stays, doesnt usually flip back.  Meltdown on netweather

Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 

Well, all the models flipped milder a week or so ago and then they went colder again, so it does happen. I don't look in at the other place very often but it melts down more often than a Russian nuclear plant...


Yateley, NE Hampshire, 73m asl

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fairweather
02 January 2026 09:59:54
Didn't even manage a frost last night and the best so far is only -0.2C. I'm beginning to think that once again the models are portraying a level of cold which is not being matched in reality. I realise that the real cold has only just reached here so it is tonight onwards that the lower temperatures should kick in but I'm not convinced that it is going to be anything we don't see for a few days most winters, even this decade. Also it may be better in other regions further North but I am resigned to the fact that really cold is only possible here with a long fetch Easterly from a cold Continent which is  a very rare occurrence  these days.
S.Essex, 42m ASL
Hippydave
02 January 2026 10:06:49

ECM ensembles this morning are still OK just. We don't want anymore downgrades though.

https://www.wetterzentrale.de/en/show_diagrams.php?geoid=50893&model=ecm&var=2&run=0&lid=ENS&bw=1 

Originally Posted by: Ally Pally Snowman 

Unless we get a clear signal for northern blocking, I suspect the ens will continue to wobble around but given it's an unsettled pattern, anything enough below the average line signals potentially interesting, even if only temporarily so IMO.

It may all collapse to a mild and wet pattern if the Atlantic revs up properly and the usual HP just to the south, NE tracking jet sets in but whilst some members play with that the majority in the ens suites aren't at the moment, so glass half full I reckon. 

As Rob/you mentioned there's currently a decent signal for something interesting circa 6th/7th Jan for those not already experiencing interesting weather. 

A quick IMBY look has:-

UKMO - Snow moving south.

ECM - wintry mix moving south (wet snow over higher ground like the Downs), second little feature bringing another wintry mix to Kent/East Sussex etc. from the NE.

GEM - rain from the main feature, snow North of London. Some secondary precip is snow presumably as the LP pulls colder air back in its wake.

UKV - band of mostly snow moving south down the country, poised to cross me at T120.

It's 5 days away in a still evolving pattern so may well disappear entirely but highlights the possibilities nicely.


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Deep Powder
02 January 2026 10:12:05
Look at what’s happened overnight/early this morning…..snow much further east than modelled only a few hours earlier…..in this kind of setup surely FI is closer than in a zonal one? I wouldn’t place too much emphasis on events beyond 96-120H at the moment. 


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The Beast from the East
02 January 2026 10:12:53
GFS op still poor. Probably game over now. Always a depressing day taking down the Christmas tree. A depressing month generally with a huge tax bill to pay the thieving govt


Purley, Surrey, 70m ASL

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Rob K
02 January 2026 10:17:20
Seems like more of a SW-NE tilt on the jet as it attacks on the 6Z GFS, which is generally bad news for a cold spell. Still we might see some more snow before then even in the south.
Yateley, NE Hampshire, 73m asl

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The Beast from the East
02 January 2026 10:21:58
horrific storm on the GFS op. Lets hope its wrong
Purley, Surrey, 70m ASL

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ballamar
02 January 2026 10:28:32

GFS op still poor. Probably game over now. Always a depressing day taking down the Christmas tree. A depressing month generally with a huge tax bill to pay the thieving govt

Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 

Might be surprisingly a premature comment from you. Cold spells lasting without mild interludes very rare. Looks like a reload on GFS and areas further north staying on the cold side

doctormog
02 January 2026 10:31:49

Might be surprisingly a premature comment from you. Cold spells lasting without mild interludes very rare. Looks like a reload on GFS and areas further north staying on the cold side

Originally Posted by: ballamar 

I think the medium term range is still a bit of a mess with potential for almost anything, both mild or cold and settled or unsettled. As ever, beyond about 120 hours ensembles will be the way to go (or at least looking for run to run consistency).


Lionel Hutz
02 January 2026 10:42:57

Didn't even manage a frost last night and the best so far is only -0.2C. I'm beginning to think that once again the models are portraying a level of cold which is not being matched in reality. I realise that the real cold has only just reached here so it is tonight onwards that the lower temperatures should kick in but I'm not convinced that it is going to be anything we don't see for a few days most winters, even this decade. Also it may be better in other regions further North but I am resigned to the fact that really cold is only possible here with a long fetch Easterly from a cold Continent which is  a very rare occurrence  these days.

Originally Posted by: fairweather 

I hope that this isn't off topic but my experience is similar. We've only had 3 air frosts this autumn/winter and none over the Christmas period, even on nights which were ostensibly suitable for frost like last night. I suppose that the apparent difficulty in getting temperatures to go sub zero is the counterpart of summer when we seem to get high temperatures even with fairly common or garden synoptics.


Lionel Hutz

Nr.Waterford , S E Ireland

68m ASL



Lionel Hutz
02 January 2026 10:48:10

I think the medium term range is still a bit of a mess with potential for almost anything, both mild or cold and settled or unsettled. As ever, beyond about 120 hours ensembles will be the way to go (or at least looking for run to run consistency).

Originally Posted by: doctormog 

Nothing set in stone yet of course as regards future cold weather prospects and as you suggest, there is plenty scatter in the ensembles. However, I can't say that I like the direction of travel of the GFS control and op runs this morning. 


Lionel Hutz

Nr.Waterford , S E Ireland

68m ASL



moomin75
02 January 2026 10:48:26
What is amazing to me, and I confess I don't and will never understand, is we were all told by the Met Office just a few short days ago that this block was the strongest for at least 45 years.

This is a genuine question, maybe one for Brian, but what do we think has led to this "powerful blocking" to be blown away so easily?

Whatever happens next week, and I still feel there will be more swings, there is no doubt that the super powerful block has been swept aside as easily as dust is swept from a doorstep. Why?


Witney, Oxfordshire

100m ASL

Rob K
02 January 2026 10:48:29

Didn't even manage a frost last night and the best so far is only -0.2C. I'm beginning to think that once again the models are portraying a level of cold which is not being matched in reality. I realise that the real cold has only just reached here so it is tonight onwards that the lower temperatures should kick in but I'm not convinced that it is going to be anything we don't see for a few days most winters, even this decade. Also it may be better in other regions further North but I am resigned to the fact that really cold is only possible here with a long fetch Easterly from a cold Continent which is  a very rare occurrence  these days.

Originally Posted by: fairweather 

The models never suggested anything unprecedently cold. The lowest 850s down here are only modelled to be about -10, possibly -11C which is nothing too noteworthy. I am expecting some pretty sharp frosts over the next few days, but which I mean below -5C and possibly -10C in prone areas of the south. UKV has -8C not far away from me on Tuesday morning for instance (and -16C in Scotland by Wednesday).


Yateley, NE Hampshire, 73m asl

"But who wants to be foretold the weather? It is bad enough when it comes, without our having the misery of knowing about it beforehand." — Jerome K. Jerome

Rob K
02 January 2026 10:50:35

there is no doubt that the super powerful block has been swept aside as easily as dust is swept from a doorstep. Why?

Originally Posted by: moomin75 

Has it?

This is the current analysis chart. https://www.meteociel.fr/ukmo/fax/fax0s.gif?02-6

UserPostedImage

You seem to be taking model output for current reality. The block is there right now.


Yateley, NE Hampshire, 73m asl

"But who wants to be foretold the weather? It is bad enough when it comes, without our having the misery of knowing about it beforehand." — Jerome K. Jerome

moomin75
02 January 2026 10:52:17

Has it?

This is the current analysis chart. https://www.meteociel.fr/ukmo/fax/fax0s.gif?02-6

UserPostedImage

You seem to be taking model output for current reality. The block is there right now.

Originally Posted by: Rob K 

But it's not the super block that we were told was the strongest for nearly 5 decades, and the models are sweeping it away, every model doing so. May not happen of course, but if the models are correct, it hasn't been a particularly powerful block at all.


Witney, Oxfordshire

100m ASL

fairweather
02 January 2026 11:05:07

What is amazing to me, and I confess I don't and will never understand, is we were all told by the Met Office just a few short days ago that this block was the strongest for at least 45 years.

This is a genuine question, maybe one for Brian, but what do we think has led to this "powerful blocking" to be blown away so easily?

Whatever happens next week, and I still feel there will be more swings, there is no doubt that the super powerful block has been swept aside as easily as dust is swept from a doorstep. Why?

Originally Posted by: moomin75 

Because, like many on here, the Met Office models don't factor in history and what has happened to similar promising set ups in the last ten years!


S.Essex, 42m ASL
moomin75
02 January 2026 11:08:16

Because, like many on here, the Met Office models don't factor in history and what has happened to similar promising set ups in the last ten years!

Originally Posted by: fairweather 

That is a very good point! 


Witney, Oxfordshire

100m ASL

Rob K
02 January 2026 11:19:19
The next few days are currently looking good for some very low temperature readings, anyway, as pressure gradients slacken off. The notoriously OTT UKM model has a -25C isotherm in Scotland and a -24C on the map on Wednesday morning but negative teens look a pretty good bet across all output.

And just to keep us on our toes, GFS control run serves up a classic Channel low snowfest in a week's time 🙂


Yateley, NE Hampshire, 73m asl

"But who wants to be foretold the weather? It is bad enough when it comes, without our having the misery of knowing about it beforehand." — Jerome K. Jerome

moomin75
02 January 2026 11:19:41
Although the GFS 6Z operational goes a bit pear shaped, the ensembles look really good and a huge upgrade in terms of snow potential.

There's still a lot to play for.


Witney, Oxfordshire

100m ASL

Ally Pally Snowman
02 January 2026 11:20:05
Comparatively rubbish GFS 6z Op but the ensembles still offer plenty of hope.
Bishop's Stortford 85m ASL.

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