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BJBlake
22 December 2025 08:35:57
For me the GFS has called all the downgrades Relating to the Christmas period earlier than the other models, from the first signs - when the Pert’ count supporting the Op started dropping,  but  at least the GFS persists in the Northerly blast with a trough In the flow, Its front crossing the UK, which is bound to be wintry, and could be something to anticipate, on the current modelling. It is a shame the GFS has it finishing as a 2 day toppler, but other models such as the CFS, AIFS  do seem to maintain the HP block, offering further renewed blasts. Whilst the GFS flip-flops more than the ECM IMO, it seems to spot trends sooner.
Brecklands, South Norfolk 28m ASL
White Meadows
22 December 2025 08:37:02

AIFS is the only glimmer of hope really. The signal for a Greenland high seems to have pretty much evaporated overnight to be replaced by the purples of doom…

Originally Posted by: Rob K 

Yep, the blocking to our NW is a dwindling prospect but I hear the northern US has had a rapid and extensive rise in temps the past few days which could help us later on: 

Been out on the MTB lately Rob?

doctormog
22 December 2025 08:45:11

AIFS is the only glimmer of hope really. The signal for a Greenland high seems to have pretty much evaporated overnight to be replaced by the purples of doom…

Originally Posted by: Rob K 

I’d be quite happy with the GFS op run to be honest: https://www.wetterzentrale.de/maps/GFSOPEU00_300_1.png

 

A thing of beauty at that stage with sub 510 dam air (500-1000hPa) reaching as far parts of N England. One run deep in FI of course, but not totally without support. The New Year period continues to look interesting.

More generally the positive height anomalies to the NW are present throughout the entire GEFS 15 day time duration. 


doctormog
22 December 2025 08:48:42

Yep, the blocking to our NW is a dwindling prospect but I hear the northern US has had a rapid and extensive rise in temps the past few days which could help us later on: 

Been out on the MTB lately Rob?

Originally Posted by: White Meadows 

This the day 10 GEFS mean 500 hPa anomaly:

https://modeles16.meteociel.fr/modeles/gens/run/gens-31-5-240.png

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 By day 15 as you would expect it is weaker but still evident: https://modeles16.meteociel.fr/modeles/gens/run/gens-31-5-384.png 


DEW
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22 December 2025 09:00:01
FAX - the current LP shown as slower than yesterday to drop S-wards into the Mediterranean with the E-ly blast (for England) only getting going late Christmas Eve as HP intensifies 1042mb N Sea. The E-lies then weaken more quickly, too, as the pressure gradient on Boxing Day less than previously shown (1037mb N Sea, 1011 mb Spain)

GFS Op 0z - as FAX, then the HP receives reinforcements from the SW and by Sun 28th is 1040mb Scotland dividing N-lies over E Europe from S-lies heading for Greenland with quiet  weather for Britain between. The HP holds on for the week after Christmas (frost, fog?) before retrogressing and allowing an Arctic LP to move south with N-ly gales for Britain (esp the east) from New Year's Day to Tue 6th. The HP then moves further south and on Wed 7th it looks as if normal service W-lies are about to resume, Greenland down to 965mb and no sign of any N-ly blocking.

ECM - like GFS to New Year's Day but the HP then moves S-wards and in the first week of the New Year there are W-lies not N-lies. These continue to the ed of the run when in a neat twist a piece of the Greenland LP breaks off, moves to the N Sea and we then get N-lies, not W-lies.

AIFS - London, maxima from Christmas Eve 3-5C, milder briefly on Sun 4th, dry except maybe a spot of drizzle. Edinburgh, again dropping to 3-5C but with additional mild day Sat 27th, dry after initial rain.

GEFS -in the S temps dipping to below norm for Christmas Day, recovering, but staying near norm in the N.  However then again cold esp in S from New Year's Day onwards. Note, a very wide variation in ens members' temps for the week after Christmas but converging after that. Chance of rain from Sat 3rd. 

Snow row figures over Christmas are unexciting; chances rise into double figures ( out of max 33) down the east coast in the first week of New Year.

Frustratingly, the potential  cold for Christmas has been dramatically scaled back, and snow removed from the forecast, while the the next batch of anything really wintry is still out in FI after New Year.


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Chichester 12m asl

ballamar
22 December 2025 09:14:52
Is it too soon to blame dodgy Christmas data?!! 😂
doctormog
22 December 2025 09:19:17
Very little has changed overnight. The anticyclonic spell with cooler than average temperatures is just around the corner with the trend beyond that still hinting at something from the north. Blocking to the NW remains the key theme in the medium term with high pressure dominant before then.
MRazzell
22 December 2025 09:27:34
I've been watching this thread with much interest this past week, shameless plug to IMBY posters so thanks to Darren, Hippy, & others for some objective input on what the models are showing.

The two main models have been remarkably consistent with the overall theme for the next 10 days with some fine weather at times and an extended dry period through to New Year. This will be most welcome from a dog walking / family activity / general comfort perspective.

As we're used to at this time of year its jam tomorrow with the snow but looking pretty epic on the 0z GFS New Year weekend, lets see if it sticks to its guns this time or keeps pushing it to arms length with every model iteration. 

Great as a spectator nontheless!


Far north of East Sussex. +150m asl.
Jersey Phil
22 December 2025 10:25:19
I have been trying to not get too excited here in Jersey.  Our last white Xmas was 1970.  The French Meteo are showing snow all over Brittany on the big day so let’s see.  Doing the Xmas day sea swim will certainly be bracing this year!!
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doctormog
22 December 2025 10:28:32

I have been trying to not get too excited here in Jersey.  Our last white Xmas was 1970.  The French Meteo are showing snow all over Brittany on the big day so let’s see.  Doing the Xmas day sea swim will certainly be bracing this year!!

Originally Posted by: Jersey Phil 

Just for you Phil. This is the 06z GFS op run:

https://www.wetterzentrale.de/maps/GFSOPFR06_73_53.png

 


Ally Pally Snowman
22 December 2025 10:29:31
Aigfs believes in miracles still , further north with the Christmas day cold. 

https://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/gfse_cartes.php?&ech=66&mode=1&aigfs=1 


Bishop's Stortford 85m ASL.
White Meadows
22 December 2025 10:44:47

Is it too soon to blame dodgy Christmas data?!! 😂

Originally Posted by: ballamar 

The main bus routes have changed significantly around here lately. I’m blaming that. 

Ally Pally Snowman
22 December 2025 10:55:08
GFS 6z another run that fails to establish a Greenland HP.    

Bah humbug! 


Bishop's Stortford 85m ASL.
Ally Pally Snowman
22 December 2025 11:06:22

GFS 6z another run that fails to establish a Greenland HP.    

Bah humbug! 

Originally Posted by: Ally Pally Snowman 

I should have been more patient only 14 days to go. Snowfest! ❄️ 

https://www.wetterzentrale.de/en/topkarten.php?map=1&model=gfs&var=1&run=6&time=339&lid=OP&h=0&mv=0&tr=3#mapref 


Bishop's Stortford 85m ASL.
doctormog
22 December 2025 11:16:06
The high pressure to the NW signal continues on the G(E)FS output in the same overall timescale as it has done and is maintained throughout the operational run deep into FI. 

Before then - anticyclonic.

In a (very) small but intriguing minority there are 4 06z GEFS members that drop suddenly to below -10°C t850hPa on the 27th/28th here. This suggests an unlikely possibility that the high pressure could retrogress westward just after Christmas as opposed to the more gradual development of blocking to the NW. 


fairweather
22 December 2025 11:51:58
You don't really need to read this thread. There has been an identical one every year for  the past ten years that you can read. Same posters, same comments, same outcomes! All based on the one day it will happen - which it might, but each year the odds lessen.🙁
S.Essex, 42m ASL
Roger Parsons
22 December 2025 11:58:15

You don't really need to read this thread. There has been an identical one every year for  the past ten years that you can read. Same posters, same comments, same outcomes! All based on the one day it will happen - which it might, but each year the odds lessen.🙁

Originally Posted by: fairweather 

😁  Sings: "It's beginning to look a lot like Christmas..."


RogerP

West Lindsey district of Lincolnshire

Everything taken together, here in Lincolnshire are more good things than man could have had the conscience to ask.

William Cobbett, in his Rural Rides - c.1830

marco 79
22 December 2025 12:20:24
The majority of 06z GEFS ENS are still  below the Op and mean for the big day (London). Another observation shows still a cold cluster from 28th onwards. Both Op and Control take a dip as we head to NYE again with the mean below -5c ...to put things in comparison we could be looking at euro heights and 14c South Westerlies right through the festive period, which for once is lacking, so it keeps an eye open still.
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Bertwhistle
22 December 2025 13:17:50

You don't really need to read this thread. There has been an identical one every year for  the past ten years that you can read. Same posters, same comments, same outcomes! All based on the one day it will happen - which it might, but each year the odds lessen.🙁

Originally Posted by: fairweather 

And yet....😊


Bertie, Itchen Valley.

Retire while you can still press the 'retire now' button.

CField
22 December 2025 13:20:51
The slowly sinking Rex looks unlikely so all to play for with a lot of winter to go.....
Favourite snowstorm

Famous channel low

Dec 31st 1978

Hastings East Sussex

Foot of level snow severe drifting

Next day max temp -4 degrees Celsius

Bertwhistle
22 December 2025 13:24:08

I've been watching this thread with much interest this past week, shameless plug to IMBY posters so thanks to Darren, Hippy, & others for some objective input on what the models are showing.

The two main models have been remarkably consistent with the overall theme for the next 10 days with some fine weather at times and an extended dry period through to New Year. This will be most welcome from a dog walking / family activity / general comfort perspective.

As we're used to at this time of year its jam tomorrow with the snow but looking pretty epic on the 0z GFS New Year weekend, lets see if it sticks to its guns this time or keeps pushing it to arms length with every model iteration. 

Great as a spectator nontheless!

Originally Posted by: MRazzell 

That does appear to be the main idea even with the HP jiggling about a bit, and I am certainly happy with that(now that the short lived disappointment after the immaculate conception of snow passed). Outdoor weather with seasonal chill is so much better than the 11 degree cloud/drizzle that seems to bless the day often enough. Brisk easterly here and low RH might even dry a bit of washing.


Bertie, Itchen Valley.

Retire while you can still press the 'retire now' button.

Taylor1740
22 December 2025 13:47:35
It doesn't feel like we are getting anyway with the output at the moment. No real momentum building towards a much colder pattern yet and at the same time still the uncertainty and potential for something better. Could be that we just get a frustrating cooler spell without anything of note which is where my money would be at the moment, but still time for it to go properly cold or milder also.
NW Leeds - 150m amsl
Gandalf The White
22 December 2025 14:20:09
Brian might move this but it’s relevant to short term model accuracy.   The forecast on Saturday night for yesterday was for a little patchy light rain for the east and south-east but we had about three hours of steady, at times heavyish rain.

Trying to guess the fine detail even a day or so out can be a mug’s game.


Location: South Cambridgeshire

130 metres ASL

52.0N 0.1E



Chichesterweatherfan2
22 December 2025 14:56:54
The latest Met office forecast has been updated…and removed all mention of any wintery precipitation…and confirms what most models and sensible posters on here interpreting them  have been alluding to …in terms of the Christmas weather..I.e coolish, and mainly dry and probably mostly cloudy….so very usable whether especially for those travelling  but for a snow lover like me, very disappointing and frustrating too! 

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