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GezM
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29 September 2025 10:33:20

Some of the models continue to signal the possibility of disruptive winds later this week. This from the UK Met Global.

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Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 

Definitely one to watch. GFS is throwing out some nasty weekend synoptics too


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idj20
29 September 2025 12:20:29

Definitely one to watch. GFS is throwing out some nasty weekend synoptics too

Originally Posted by: GezM 

Seems that the UKMO was onto it after all, as it was the first to pick out that set up from afar. While there is some wriggle room for some downgrades as the 06z op is at the high end of the pack in terms of wind gusts (the 06z op always seem to show the most deepest dartboard lows over UK in the medium range output), but if it has to turn rough 'n' wild then at least it is likely to be over the weekend putting off the nearby night club drunks from going out. šŸ˜‚


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The Beast from the East
29 September 2025 16:45:31

Seems that the UKMO was onto it after all, as it was the first to pick out that set up from afar. While there is some wriggle room for some downgrades as the 06z op is at the high end of the pack in terms of wind gusts (the 06z op always seem to show the most deepest dartboard lows over UK in the medium range output), but if it has to turn rough 'n' wild then at least it is likely to be over the weekend putting off the nearby night club drunks from going out. šŸ˜‚

Originally Posted by: idj20 

Yes, well done to UKMO.Ā  GFS now on board.Ā  Looks horrific for the whole country.Ā  lets hope the azores high can push it north a bit and at least spare us down hereĀ 


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tierradelfuego
29 September 2025 16:58:11

Yes, well done to UKMO.Ā  GFS now on board.Ā  Looks horrific for the whole country.Ā  lets hope the azores high can push it north a bit and at least spare us down hereĀ 

Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 

It already has. On the 6z the strongest winds were off the SW tip of Wales with guts here projected to 60mph, the 12z shows the strongest around the IOM with 50mph here.


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Brian Gaze
29 September 2025 17:18:46
CMC wind gust charts are new on TWO, so when I saw them, I ran the formula used to calculate them through AI.

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Windy Willow
29 September 2025 18:22:06

CMC wind gust charts are new on TWO, so when I saw them, I ran the formula used to calculate them through AI.

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Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 

That's showing 86mph gusts for here and well over 90+ just a bit north of here! Not looking forward to that if it comes off that way!


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Brian Gaze
29 September 2025 20:46:59
Central pressure below 930mB on the UKV. It looks like we could have a major weather event later this week.

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Brian Gaze
29 September 2025 21:06:54
Some of the ensemble output also looks quite worrying.Ā 

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DEW
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30 September 2025 06:50:20
FAX shows fronts troubling the NW while the SE remains under HP. This breaks down on Thursday as the frot moves across Britain and an LP centre forms 991mb Cape warth. The main action then follows with an LP fuelled by ex-Humberto is 956mb off W Ireland Fri midday and moves to Orkney 944mb Sat with gales and frontal rain for all.

GFS Op 00z; Picks up the above developments but Saturdays Lp moves through quickly and a ridge of HP follows by Mon 6th albeit with N-lies down the N Sea. The ridge persists and by Sat 11th has transformed intoĀ  a large area of HP 1030mb N England. This drifts E-wards and for a time produces mild S-lies from Mon 13th until the Lp waiting on the Atlantic moves in 1000mb Scotland Wed 15th.

ECM; like GFS but less of a ridge of HP as the Hp is 'flattened' across S Britain with general W-lies

GEFS; temps at or above norm until Sat 4th when heavy rain and a drop in temp until Tue 7th, when milder again for a few days before mean returns to norm in the middle of a spread of ens members, the Op (contrary to above) one of the colder options, Rain after the 4th from time to time, heavier and more persistent in the NW.

AIFS; London, maxima around 17C declining to around 14C over the fortnight, with an intermediate dip and rain on Sat 4th. Edinburgh maxima like London but a few degrees lower, and some additional rain before the 4th


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Hippydave
30 September 2025 09:37:32
Some quite worrying output for Friday/Saturday at the moment I'd have said. NW Scotland looks most likely to be the location for the worst winds but still enough uncertainty in the models to adjust that and most places look to have some fairly strong winds.Ā 

GEMs op this morning probably the pick of the 'worst' options.

Arpege notable just for how much further south it is, so lower wind speeds overall but 60-70 widely over a lot of England and Wales.Ā 

Given trees are still in leaf there's potential for quite widespread disruption.Ā Ā 

Outside of the weekends fun and games it's not looking too bad IMBY for most of the run - occasional rain but nothing overly exciting and a lot of HP about. Looks stereotypically like early autumn in that regard, more unsettled the further NW you head with a gradual move towards more countrywide unsettled weather heading further in to October.Ā 


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fairweather
30 September 2025 09:53:09
With all of the focus (rightfully) on the potentially seriously affected areas in the North and Scotland is it ok to ask if there is likely to be any rain in London and still drought stricken Essex?
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Matty H
30 September 2025 15:19:05
Hopefully it heads for Iceland as some output is showing, pulling us here into a lovely tropical feed from the south and very warm tempsĀ 
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01 October 2025 06:42:36
FAX shows HP hanging on in the SE for the next two days while fronts continue to plague the NW. The frontal activity peps up early Friday as a low forms on the front 993mb Hebrides and the associated front wriggles across Britain. The main action starts late on Friday with LP running NE-wards to midnight 945mb Cape Wrath with gale force winds for all of Britain , and storm force for Scotland lasting through Saturday while a cold front moves very quickly from the W. By Sunday things are quieter, the LP is 980mb Denmark and winds are quieter NW-lies.

GFS op 0z agrees with FAX to Sat, but then guides the LP to N Norway with a quicker but restricted rise of pressure behind. This HP in combination with LP near Iceland gives a W-ly flow, a trough in this flow moving across Tue 7th but then settled until Tue 14th when LP drifts down form the N to N England 100mb Wed 15th with colder air behind. Although pressure then rises there is an ex-hurricane waiting on the Atlantic to disrupt proceedings.

ECM similar to GFS, winds more NW-ly than W-ly after the storm clears.

GEM tracks the main LP to S Norway but then instead ofĀ  W-lies keeps pressure low in the N Sea with N=lies down the E coast and HP out to the SW at least to Sat11th

GEFS heavy rain Sat 4th with a short dip in temp, mild again around Tue 7th then mean settles to norm with usual ens spread, op run a cool outlier, but overall dry after 4th, except N & NW Scotland, rain in run-up to 4th and more likely around the 7th.

AIFS; London, maxima 15-17C but cooler Sun/Mon 5th/6th, rain Fri 3rd otherwise dry. Edinburgh, maxima around 15C with rain to Sat 4th, then around 13-14C and mostly dry


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johncs2016
01 October 2025 07:04:28

With all of the focus (rightfully) on the potentially seriously affected areas in the North and Scotland is it ok to ask if there is likely to be any rain in London and still drought stricken Essex?

Originally Posted by: fairweather 

It's not just Essex which is drought-stricken.

Here in Edinburgh, we have had very little in the way of rainfall in the past week and there is still an ongoing water scarcity situation in the east of Scotland in particular. Indeed, there are a number of areas which are still at significant water scarcity status according to SEPA with NE Scotland bearing the biggest brunt of that, and with those areas even extending as far north as the Orkney Islands.

At the moment, we're seeing some rain in western areas in particular, but these are the areas which had already been getting plenty of rainfall up until now and the big problem here is that even as I write, very little of that rainfall is actually getting through to those eastern areas which badly need that rainfall as a result of the continuing impacts from water scarcity in those areas.

Looking at the latest model output, I was very concerned when I read the AIFS summary at the end of DEW's daily summary as that seems to suggest that we're not likely to get any rain here in Edinburgh over the next few days. That is quite a big downgrade from other recent days which were at least offering some hope of at least some rainfall over that period. As a result, that is very concerning indeed as regards to the overall water scarcity situation because there still doesn't appear to be anything in the latest model output which is even offering any hope of that situation being eased any time soon.

The models may well look towards the possibility of storm weather on around Thursday/Friday with the northern half of the UK being the worst effected areas from that. This would suggest that the northern half of the UK would also get the most rain from that but the big question here as always is whether that rainfall is going to end up being concentrated mostly in the west as has been the case until now, or whether we actually see. a significant portion of that getting through to those parts of the east which badly need it. In this current westerly setup which we now seem to be going into, I would have to say that the omens don't really look all that great in that regard.


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MRayner
01 October 2025 08:03:27
As mentioned in previous post, north east Scotland is also suffering a severe water shortage, many of the residents in my area of speyside have been without any water for a couple of months. Wells have gone dry in many areas, and local councils are delivering bottled water . Funny old thing , not even mentioned on the news.Ā 

Hopefully these weather systems will bring some meaningful rain to the catchments , it’s badly needed. Thankfully it looks like the brunt of this storm is moving up the west coast of Scotland, but a lot of rain is forecast, hopefully they are right this time. šŸ¤žšŸ’¦


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DEW
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01 October 2025 08:31:08

Looking at the latest model output, I was very concerned when I read the AIFS summary at the end of DEW's daily summary as that seems to suggest that we're not likely to get any rain here in Edinburgh over the next few days. That is quite a big downgrade from other recent days which were at least offering some hope of at least some rainfall over that period. As a result, that is very concerning indeed as regards to the overall water scarcity situation because there still doesn't appear to be anything in the latest model output which is even offering any hope of that situation being eased any time soon.

Originally Posted by: johncs2016 

Not what it says -quote - with rain to 4th. Edinburgh AIFS has rain in the next few days but then, agreed, it looks rather dry again


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DEW
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01 October 2025 08:31:13

Looking at the latest model output, I was very concerned when I read the AIFS summary at the end of DEW's daily summary as that seems to suggest that we're not likely to get any rain here in Edinburgh over the next few days. That is quite a big downgrade from other recent days which were at least offering some hope of at least some rainfall over that period. As a result, that is very concerning indeed as regards to the overall water scarcity situation because there still doesn't appear to be anything in the latest model output which is even offering any hope of that situation being eased any time soon.

Originally Posted by: johncs2016 

Not what it says -quote - with rain to 4th. Edinburgh AIFS has rain in the next few days but then, agreed, it looks rather dry again


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The Beast from the East
01 October 2025 09:08:22

Some of the ensemble output also looks quite worrying.Ā 

Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 

ECM and UKMO this morning not looking too bad, for the south at least.Ā 


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Brian Gaze
01 October 2025 09:45:59

ECM and UKMO this morning not looking too bad, for the south at least.Ā 

Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 

Yes it looks to be centred slightly farther north on some of the latest output.


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GezM
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01 October 2025 10:11:33

Yes it looks to be centred slightly farther north on some of the latest output.

Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 

It also continues to move north east whereas a couple of days ago it was showing a track looping south east over the North Sea, maintaining strong winds over much of the UK for another day or so.Ā 


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02 October 2025 06:57:07
FAX charts start with a collection of fronts trailing back into mid Atlantic and a rather unexciting LP 985 mb there. This LP is fired up by the energy from the SW and is 943mb off Cape Wrath as storm Amy midnight Fri/Sat with gales/storms for all (not too bad in the S) and a front sweeping across Britain. It then tracks SE-wards and fills 980mb Denmark midday Sun with winds going round NW-ly (Earlier versions showed Amy moving NE and filling quickly in the Norwegian Sea).Ā 

GFS Op 0z; prefers the Norwegian Sea version, after which pressure rises over Britain and winds go round from W-ly to N-ly as HP moves from S of Britain to mid-Atlantic;Ā  by Sun 12th; the HP is near enough for fine and settled weather in the west. This HP collapses (or moves SE-wards, depends on how you interpret the charts), winds go back W-ly and eventually Fri 17th LP has set up 990mb W of Ireland. The jetstream forecast shows that Amy will benefit from a very strong jet stream which however is short-lived. Further ahead the jet around Fri 17th takes a big loop to the S,implying colder weather?

ECM; takes Amy to the Baltic well filled 995mb Mon 6th. After that the rise in pressure is mainly to the Sw so winds tend to be long-fetch NW-lies to Sat 11th

GEM;Ā  like GFS though it adds in an extra trough moving rapidly east Tue 7th, also with the remains of some tropical air, before the HP is established.

GEFS; the perturbations are divided more or less equally as to where Amy ends up. As for the line graphs, heavy rain esp in N Fri 3rd with a dip in temp to 3 or 4C below form, rebounding Tue 7th to as much above. The mean temp then settles near norm and little rainfall in the S to end of forecast Fri 17th while in the N rain continues on and off,Ā  though a significant minority of runs incl op and control are much cooler in the S from Tue 14th with some rainĀ  Ā 

AIFS; London, maxima mostly around 15Cm rain on 4th and 16th; Edinburgh, maxima more irregular, mostly 13C but dip on 5th and 16th after rain at those times


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DEW
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03 October 2025 07:27:13
FAX shows a tangle of fronts crossing the country while storm Amy winds up to 946mb Orkney this evening with associated storm force winds and then to Denmark 979mb Sunday, and on into the Baltic. Then less of a pressure rise than shown yesterday with fronts regularly passing across the country in a strong W-ly flow between HP 1025mb C Europe and LP967mb Iceland through to Tue 7th.

GFS Op 00z; Amy fills more quickly and there is more of a pressure rise. By Thu 9th HP 1025mb covers Britain but it retreats first to the west then southwest with winds going round to first N then NW then W by Mon 13th. Eventually Fri 17th LP moves down from Iceland to NE Scotland 980mb extending a trough to the south with a secondary running along the Channel Sat 18th.

ECM; like GFS to Thu 9th but the HP then moves to the NW and from an area just off NW Scotland and continues to be the main influence on British weather to Mon 13th.

GEM; like ECM but extends the HP from NW Britain via a broad ridge reaching into C Europe with SE-lies for England.

GEFS; a drop in temp following storm Amy with an equally quick rise to mild on Tue 7th. Mean temp then follows the norm with fairly good ens agreement though Op & Control are definitely cold after Mon 13th. Rain associated with storm Amy, then dry. Perhaps a little rain in the S in the op run Fri 17th, this more likely and including the few days previous in the NW.

AIFS; London, maxima slowly decreasing from 17C now to 13C Fri 17th, rain now and then dry until a little on Thu 16th. Edinburgh, maxima generally around 13C, rain as London also a little on Tue 7th.


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DEW
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04 October 2025 07:18:01
Fax takes storm Amy from 946mb Orkney now to 980mb Skagerrak tomorrow, and it dies out as it traverses the Baltic. This ushers in a period of W-ly winds with fronts in a procession across Britain, the best of the weather in the south until Wed 8th when pressure drops there and allows a double front to proceed SE-wards (though MetO rainfall map shows these fronts to be weak by that time).

GFS Op 00z; continues on from FAX with a general rise in pressure after Wed;Ā  by Sat 11th HP is centred 1035mb N England. This HP persists but forms a weak ridge NW-SE from Iceland to continental Europe, lasting to Fri 17th when LP moves up from the SW and deepens 965mb Cape Wrath Sun 19th with SW-lies and LP developing near Cornwall.Ā 

ECM; similar to GFS though in the final chart Tue 14th Atlantic LP looks more active

GEFS; also similar to GFS but takes a different view from ECM on the 14th with the ridge of HP moving W-wards into the Atlantic and LP pressing from Scandinavia.

GEFS; cool now, a bump of warmth around Tue 7th, then mean near norm with good ens agreement to Tue 21st. Mainly dry, but with some rain in some runs after Sun 19th in the S, a few days earlier in the N.

AIFS: London, maxima mostly 15-17 C to Sun 12th, then cooler 12-14C; no rain after today in the forecast (i.e. to Sat 18th). Edinburgh, maximum 16C Mon 6th then declines to 12C Tue 14th before rising slowly; some rain to Tue 7th then dry


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Matty H
04 October 2025 16:46:27
Looks like a lovely DRY and settled spell incoming šŸ‘
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The Beast from the East
05 October 2025 01:05:03
lets hope the high doesnt drift into the wrong place and drag in north sea muckĀ 
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