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moomin75
23 June 2025 17:25:11

Extra layers, in this weather 😮. When I was a lad....

I don't think the models are gung ho for heat atm, or rain.  But I do know it's only June 23rd, much of the country is parched and there could easily be extreme heat any time in the next two months.

Originally Posted by: Devonian 

Honestly. It was really quite chilly yesterday afternoon. Was breezy and a bit overcast and drizzly, and didn't feel nice.

Fundamentally, I think you may be correct. With ground so dry, if we get the right setup, we could be pushing 40c again this summer, but I don't think just yet.


Witney, Oxfordshire

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Ally Pally Snowman
23 June 2025 17:32:17

Honestly. It was really quite chilly yesterday afternoon. Was breezy and a bit overcast and drizzly, and didn't feel nice.

Fundamentally, I think you may be correct. With ground so dry, if we get the right setup, we could be pushing 40c again this summer, but I don't think just yet.

Originally Posted by: moomin75 

Get your big coat out Moomin. 😁

https://wetterzentrale.de/en/topkarten.php?map=1&model=aifs&var=1&run=12&time=120&lid=OP&h=0&mv=0&tr=6#mapref 

AIFS has led the way with next heatwave. 


Bishop's Stortford 85m ASL.
doctormog
23 June 2025 17:39:44

Possibly could go hot again, but if the 12z is correct, a really wet and cool spell soon afterwards. Looks pretty horrendous out at 10 days.

Thankfully, it won't verify, and neither will blowtorch temperatures in my view. 

Remember the GFS was showing 35/36c for yesterday at about 5 days out.

The reality was actually quite cold in the breeze and I can confirm that as I was at cricket and needed extra layers.

Originally Posted by: moomin75 

It must have been a very cold breeze given the warmer than average temperatures .


Chunky Pea
23 June 2025 18:16:55

It must have been a very cold breeze given the warmer than average temperatures .

Originally Posted by: doctormog 

I actually found it quite (relatively) cool out today in that breeze, (I was only wearing a light shirt) though temps did reach 18c at one point. I think this may have been down to the lower humidity than in recent days and the largely cloudy sky. 


Patrick,

East Galway, Ireland.

Matty H
23 June 2025 18:36:26

Sort of model related. I rate this guy right up there with absolutely anyone. In a nutshell for the UK - normal or above average temps to persist. Have a read though, as the level of overall detail is fascinating (to me anyway)

https://published.aer.com/aoblog/aoblog.html 


Yate, Nr Bristol

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24 June 2025 07:04:38
GFS Op 00z; A westerly influence with alternating periods of warm weather (hot in the SE?) coming in from the SW for a few days followed by a collapse and replacement by mostly Atlantic LPs. Major features; Thu 26th, a trough with thundery weather in the SE and more general rain in the W (but no rain here in central S England); Sun 29th 1025mb Cornwall (hot in the S); LP Sat 5th 995mb Clyde (with a waft of N-lies behind); HP back Thu 10th.

ECM and GEM; similar but additionally something of a dip in pressure mid week Wed 2nd.

GEFS: In the S, warm until Wed 2nd (one day Fri 27th cooler) then near norm to Thu 10th with quite good ens agreement; small amounts of rain Thu 26th, Thu 3rd (in SE) and possibly later on. In the N, same trends in temp but always a degree or two cooler, rain in small amounts possible at almost any date.

AIFS; London, midday temps climbing fairly steadily to a max 31C Mon 30th, dropping sharply with mid to low 20s for the following week; rain most likely, but not much, Thu 26th and Sat 5th. Edinburgh, midday temp at a one-off peak of 24C Mon 26th, before this mostly high teens and after mostly low teens; rain most significant Thu 26th and Fri 5th but smaller amounts on various other dates.


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David M Porter
24 June 2025 09:57:50

GFS 12Z bringing the blow torch back later this week. Perhaps temperatures will go even higher this time?

 

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Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 

Looks like it'll be another short-lived blast of heat again if it happens, a bit like the last couple of weeks. 

There doesn't seem to be any consistent sign in any of the models at the moment of high pressure takinp up residence over or near to the British Isles and sticking around for a while, as happened in the spring. Transient very warm/ hot settled spells seem to be the form horse at the moment for most of the country.


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Brian Gaze
24 June 2025 10:25:37

Looks like it'll be another short-lived blast of heat again if it happens, a bit like the last couple of weeks. 

There doesn't seem to be any consistent sign in any of the models at the moment of high pressure takinp up residence over or near to the British Isles and sticking around for a while, as happened in the spring. Transient very warm/ hot settled spells seem to be the form horse at the moment for most of the country.

Originally Posted by: David M Porter 

Perceptions will, to a large degree, depend on where you are in the UK. The CET for this month is looking warm or very warm.

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moomin75
24 June 2025 10:32:05

35c on Monday to 14c on Wednesday on the 6z GFS. Both extremes are laughable. Neither will verify I'm sure. Although 14c far more likely than 35c.


Witney, Oxfordshire

100m ASL

overland
24 June 2025 10:43:53

Looking at the GEFS there has been a surprisingly consistent and clear signal for a cool down around the 1st/2nd July. Although having said that it's really just a return to the norm so perhaps not so surprising?


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Retron
24 June 2025 13:11:42

Looking at the GEFS there has been a surprisingly consistent and clear signal for a cool down around the 1st/2nd July. Although having said that it's really just a return to the norm so perhaps not so surprising?

Originally Posted by: overland 

I'll believe it when it happens - so far it's like chasing cold weather in winter, a rainbow that recedes into the distance as you approach it.

The MetO raw, for the next week, continues the remarkable warm spell down here - maxes, including today, of: 26, 26, 25, 26, 27, 26, 29. And that takes us to the end of June! The mean max here so far is 3C above the 91-20 norm, or 4.4C above the old 61-90 one!


Leysdown, north Kent
moomin75
24 June 2025 15:34:49

ICON 12z ramps the heat up early next week. Serious 🔥 uppers in the southeast. 


Witney, Oxfordshire

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Rob K
24 June 2025 17:24:38

ICON 12z ramps the heat up early next week. Serious 🔥 uppers in the southeast. 

Originally Posted by: moomin75 

GFS and GEM 12Z both go for 35C+ temps on July 1, followed by a swift cooldown. ICON seems to delay the peak heat a little?


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Brian Gaze
24 June 2025 17:30:38

The GFS effortlessly rolls out 36°C, and no one bats an eyelid.

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Heavy Weather 2013
24 June 2025 17:33:42

The GFS effortlessly rolls out 36°C, and no one bats an eyelid.

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Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 

Indeed Brian. I’ve also noted a slight extension to the settled spell on GFS


Mark

Beckton, E London

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Brian Gaze
24 June 2025 17:43:02

Tomorrow night could be interesting in the south east and East Anglia. This type of thing has been signalled by a number of recent model runs. I wonder if we could see a yellow issued by the Met Office.

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Brian Gaze

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Retron
24 June 2025 17:49:33

 I’ve also noted a slight extension to the settled spell on GFS

Originally Posted by: Heavy Weather 2013 

Now there's a surprise. MetO and GFS both continuing the very warm/hot spell (which has been going for 13 days already), no end in sight of it down here at least. This weekend's heat will be centred on the far SE - three days in the 30s according to GFS, or high 20s according to the MetO.

Maybe we should run a sweepstakes as to when the next average day will be down here - it won't be this month now, that's pretty much certain!


Leysdown, north Kent
Crepuscular Ray
24 June 2025 18:28:39

Any interest is in the SE half again. Distinctly average up here for the next 5 days. Average temperatures (18-20 C) Breezy and quite wet at times. Our one hot day a distant memory now


Jerry

Edinburgh, in the frost hollow below Blackford Hill

Saint Snow
24 June 2025 19:34:41

The 12z's of both GFS and ECM AI have a very similar look - Azores High ridging towards the UK and at times drifting to centre over the SW/S of England, at other times low pressure encroaching from the NW.

Not the positioning I'd choose, but the majority of England and Wales will be predominantly dry; the more SE you are, the warmer, generally.


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Ally Pally Snowman
25 June 2025 06:18:39

35c looks likely atm on Monday, 

Saturday to Tuesday all look likely to get to 30c. 

UKMo looks extreme this morning but would likely show 100f Tuesday. 


Bishop's Stortford 85m ASL.
Brian Gaze
25 June 2025 06:19:34

Incredible GFS Op this morning. 

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Brian Gaze
25 June 2025 06:21:57

UK Met Global shows 36C on Tuesday. 

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Heavy Weather 2013
25 June 2025 07:01:39

UK Met Global shows 36C on Tuesday. 

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Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 

The cool down at the start of July already looking in trouble.


Mark

Beckton, E London

Less than 500m from the end of London City Airport runway.

Retron
25 June 2025 07:03:01

The cool down at the start of July already looking in trouble.

Originally Posted by: Heavy Weather 2013 

As I've said before, I'll believe it when it happens! We're seeing the same sort of thing that often happens in winter, the models overdoing the jet and, when the time comes, it's weaker and the ridging to the south is just that bit stronger. It makes quite a difference.


Leysdown, north Kent
Heavy Weather 2013
25 June 2025 07:10:26

As I've said before, I'll believe it when it happens! We're seeing the same sort of thing that often happens in winter, the models overdoing the jet and, when the time comes, it's weaker and the ridging to the south is just that bit stronger. It makes quite a difference.

Originally Posted by: Retron 

I agree, the models not really dealing with the jet well at all. Only a few days ago, Thursday was looking like a really iffy day, with quite a strong area of low pressure.


Mark

Beckton, E London

Less than 500m from the end of London City Airport runway.

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