Yes. Unless it turns out to be massively undercooked, I have absolutely no interest in this event.

It's either a cold wet day, or a few hours with dirty, mucky slush everywhere as it appears now. 😐

Even Manchester's show accumulations...

Looks like there could be two pulses of snow, the initial one the best chance for the Midlands and may break up into N England during Thursday day and then a second burst which may only be snow  N England northwards and north of M62 by dawn on Friday before turning to rain slowly further north. 

https://www.meteociel.com/modeles/arpege.php?ech=47&mode=42&map=300 

Indeed. At the rate things are being shifted south Leeds could end up staying dry entirely on Thursday (which I'm personally fine with as I don't want slushy snow).

So, after the 12z runs we have Arpege now predicting snow for the northern part of Herts and northwards, albeit after a damp start.  

Alaro has firmed up on snow north of London, some of it quite heavy.

WRF has the rain-snow boundary north of Cambridge, but it’s moved south a little v the previous run.

ICON has the boundary slightly further north than WRF, with rain for Norfolk & Suffolk.  That seems to be partly down to a lower intensity of precipitation, which as Q has mentioned is critical when there needs to be cooling of the air.

UKMO has the snow in a similar zone to ICON, but again I am pretty sure the boundary has trended south.

So, 36-48 hours to go and still a lot of uncertainty across the swathe of the country north of the Thames-Severn Estuary line (aka M4 corridor…).

My guess right now for here would be some white stuff coming down but mostly wet on the ground.

Met Office forecast: https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/weather/forecast/gcw0vvk8p#?nearestTo=Blackrod%20(Wigan)&date=2024-02-08 

BBC forecast: https://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/2655454 

I’m not sure they are? The forecast from the MetO on the page you’ve linked for your area reads:

”Thursday:

A chilly and frosty start. Winds will strengthen through the morning with outbreaks of rain arriving from the south, this likely turning to sleet and snow at times. Maximum temperature 4 °C”

If you mean the symbols? That’s not a forecast, it’s just one model run interpretation with zero human input. They’re pretty useless at the best of times

Scroll down the page for your actual human forecast 

5 Miles from the amber area, probably prefer that as could be overreaction and closing schools in advanced on low ground inside the amber warning area.    

I have no doubts though, that this is probably going to be yet another complete waste of time as these things generally never come to anything any more, especially here in the north Edinburgh where I am (the south of Edinburgh usually has a slightly better chance of getting something from that but it still wouldn't surprise me one bit there was very little or nothing at all there as well in the end).

I was watching Mark Vogan's video from yesterday (I haven't yet caught up with Gavin P.'s videos and I know that Gusty has also been doing a series of snow watch videos on his channel which I haven't yet caught up with), and the model output which Mark was showing at the time seemed to show that any snow coming up to Scotland would be more likely to just turn to rain before it gets here due to some milder air coming more into the mix, except for up over the hills and mountain.

That model output might have changed since then of course but based on that, the omens aren't exactly looking good for here as far as any snow or ice prospects are concerned.

The symbols are a representation of what the Met Office considers the weather will do in that location over a period of time, so definately a 'forecast' in that respect. You may question their accuracy but that is another matter entirely as they are most definately a weather forecast.

sleet and then rain for me, thoroughly pointless !

Disagree, Col. They’re just whatever the model spits out from run to run. They change multiple times daily. There is no human intervention in these or tweaking and can often be completely at odds with the text forecast, particularly the further out you go in days 

It’s also why the various apps are so at odds with each other constantly as they use different models to spit out their info however many times per day 

There may be some more showers up here until the front moves north bringing the milder air later on Friday. (Most of last night’s snow is still on the ground currently).

As COl said, they may be rubbish but they are a forecast.

By the same token then so is any given model run at any time, because that’s what they are created from

And we all know model runs aren’t forecasts