Starting to feel a bit more autumnal now.  Dare we think summer is finally over?   

 

 

It's odd how different we view things (perhaps geographical location in this instance), but I was commenting the other day how suddenly we flipped from summer to autumn in early/mid-September.

Not with the temperature, i grant you (although August was often very warm/hot and September might have been above-average, but not what you'd call even warm, especially in comparison to August), but more in terms of rain.

It's just seemed to rain with annoying frequency since about mid-Sept. 

The Met Office map fopr October shows this neck of the woods had between 20 and 25 days with *some* rain. Further north, the western strip of NW England and Scotland (along with West Wales) had 25+ days. 

For September, it was the area covering NE Wales/Cheshire/Merseyside that had anomalously high number of rain days (and I suspect most were in the latter two-thirds of the month)

So from a 'dull, wet and miserable' perspective, IMBY, it was a sudden and jarring pivot into a poor autumn. Against that backdrop, temps being a couple of degrees higher than average doesn't do a thing to lift the mood.

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It's odd how different we view things (perhaps geographical location in this instance), but I was commenting the other day how suddenly we flipped from summer to autumn in early/mid-September.

Not with the temperature, i grant you (although August was often very warm/hot and September might have been above-average, but not what you'd call even warm, especially in comparison to August), but more in terms of rain.

It's just seemed to rain with annoying frequency since about mid-Sept. 

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A very similar thing happened from a SE POV.  Having looked at the MO on here on 22nd Sept I said to a friend that we'd better make the most of the warm, dry weather at the weekend as it was all about to change, and it certainly has.  I haven't looked in detail about the rainfall here compared to your location, but the impression I've got is that it's been mostly unsettled in this corner of the country as well.

And in the last few days the saying 'It never rains but it pours' has been entirely appropriate.  From having an agricultural drought for all of the summer, concluding in an actual drought and hosepipe ban, we've just had half a month's worth of rain in a couple of days.  I've wanted to get out in the garden to do some preparation for the winter and next spring, but the ground has gone from hard as concrete in September to its current squelchy quagmire with only a handful of days in between when it was dry enough to get to work outside.

I've just received my six-month water bill, and having used 9 cu.m. of water just keeping plants alive in the garden (even well-established shrubs and fruit bushes), the cost was over £90. What is a bit galling is that I am also charged wastewater disposal charges on the water that I've put on the garden (70% of my total usage) when Southern Water haven't had to process any of it!

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An abysmal weekend to come.

Wet for most of the time and feeling cool.

 

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One of the earliest plunges into one of the most horrific autumns I've ever experienced. Just unrelenting crap both here and in London when I was there at the start of September. 

Today was supposed to have a few showers to start then quickly clearing to mostly sunny conditions but as usual the only thing to match the dismal low quality weather is the standard weather forecasting has reduced to. Drizzle all morning and a depressing cloud all afternoon that barely broke. Every time I see a forecast it's completely wrong. It was never like that in the 80s and 90s at only 24 hours 

Another absolutely stinking week of utter dross coming up. Rank southerly winds delivering more horrendous double digit minima and nothing remotely seasonable for the time of year. Really just want to hibernate now as I can't take any more of this detestable soul destroying gunk.

What the hell is going on when all we get are these revolting southerlies and south easterlies giving no variety at all? The wind is supposed to dominate from the west and south west in this country. At least with those directions you get changeable skies, diurnal temperature range, sunrises, sunsets, lenticular clouds etc. Southerlies and south easterlies fail to produce anything which  I don't despise. The directions of hellishly unbearable rubbish

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I previously said it wouldn’t be possible for this autumn to end up worse than 2014 but this toxic turd of a November is trying it’s damnedest to prove me wrong. Over the past week this stinking awful catastrophe of a season has sunk so far into the abyss that words have yet to be invented to do justice to its horrors 

As if the domination of wind from the SE quarter wasn’t ludicrous enough, it is now coming constantly from that foulest of directions meaning that yet again NE Scotland is having to bear the brunt of this ridiculously abnormal filth. Dark, dank, depressing grot with barely any daylight since last Saturday never mind sunlight. Just a relentless train of fog, murk, gloom and now stupefying amounts of rain and flooding.

90mm here since Tuesday with over 200mm on high ground. Today when it was supposed to have cleared up it’s been lashing down once more from the same soul destroying murky grey skies. Only ever lets up during the night. Can’t get outdoors for any sort of exercise. It’s a living hell yet again as it has been so often over the past 15 years locked into these horrendous stagnant patterns that won’t change for weeks on end 

For an unprecedented third successive autumn we will reach 20th November without recording a frost. Keep being told more seasonable temperatures are on the way but all that’s happening is the surreal lack of anything remotely cold gets more and more absurd. Not even dropped below 6C in the past week 

2010-17 brought a number of cold and also very sunny Novembers but since 2018 the month has degenerated into an even worse hell than 21st Century October. 2018 and 2019 were repulsive in their entireties while the first two thirds of both 2020 and 2021 were diabolical. So far 2022 is the worst of the lot 

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I been observing the clouds was shocking reversing against the west winds and clear skies to the west.  It was very reluctant to clear east once it does let the sun fully out, as soon as you turn your head away it reversed back very fast to the West.  Thought we not having any easterly winds?  Clouds cannot reverse against any wind direction as they move and pushed by the any direct of wind flow?  Only clouds and go spinning around is during tornadoes. 

Most of the autumn has been incessantly rainy. 

Here the totals probably won't be extraordinary, but I'd say we've had at least some rain on 80% of days in Oct & Nov.

Awful autumn. 

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I been observing the clouds was shocking reversing against the west winds and clear skies to the west.  It was very reluctant to clear east once it does let the sun fully out, as soon as you turn your head away it reversed back very fast to the West.  Thought we not having any easterly winds?  Clouds cannot reverse against any wind direction as they move and pushed by the any direct of wind flow?  Only clouds and go spinning around is during tornadoes. 

You do realise clouds move along at different speed and direction with height? What is happening at surface level doesn't mean it'll be the same at, say, 1 mile, 5 miles and even higher still at 10 miles above sea level. Even temperatures and humidity levels vary with height. Also we are currently in between frontal systems.

PS: Indeed the sky is laden with illegal clouds at my end.

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You do realise clouds move along at different speed and direction with height? What is happening at surface level doesn't mean it'll be the same at, say, 1 mile, 5 miles and even higher still at 10 miles above sea level. Even temperatures and humidity levels vary with height. Also we are currently in between frontal systems.

PS: Indeed the sky is laden with illegal clouds at my end.

Then there must be easterly winds from the east push the clouds back to the West then westerly airflow fought back and clear the skies since 1pm with sunny skies.   I went outside to check the wind direction it was coming from the east which was not supposed to be due for any easterly but got defected by westerly winds again.

 

Then there must be easterly winds from the east push the clouds back to the West then westerly airflow fought back and clear the skies since 1pm with sunny skies.   I went outside to check the wind direction it was coming from the east which was not supposed to be due for any easterly but got defected by westerly winds again.

There is an old farmers saying- If you want to know the weather tomorrow look at the clouds at height.

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There is an old farmers saying- If you want to know the weather tomorrow look at the clouds at height.

Heard about red sunset type too.

Speaking of easterly, we had no easterly for ages and becoming very rare, easterly always appear every month at some point before in any season and temperatures.

The suicide inducing hell continues. While the rest of the country is under some sort of westerly flow we are stuck under a relentless flow of unremitting filth off the North Sea that defies any sort of rational explanation 

Into the 8th consecutive day of almost constant darkness and 4th consecutive day of almost constant rainfall without even a single hour of usable weather. 106mm since Tuesday 

This is completely intolerable. Why the hell should anyone be expected to but up with this detestable garbage?  It's totally incompatable with having any sort of quality of life.

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There's probably a 50:50 chance that early next week will record the first frost here - another very late one, I might add. If it doesn't and it's possible a strong overnight wind will stop it happening, this will likely be the second frostless autumn I've seen. 2011, which was the last frostless autumn, didn't see the first frost until 2 December and that was when I lived in Manchester.

Out of all the seasons, I think autumn has definitely warmed the most.

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There's probably a 50:50 chance that early next week will record the first frost here - another very late one, I might add. If it doesn't and it's possible a strong overnight wind will stop it happening, this will likely be the second frostless autumn I've seen. 2011, which was the last frostless autumn, didn't see the first frost until 2 December and that was when I lived in Manchester.

Out of all the seasons, I think autumn has definitely warmed the most.

yeah, we seem to get more air frosts in May than October these days. 

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yeah, we seem to get more air frosts in May than October these days. 

It seems that way. I find it pretty remarkable how we struggle to get frosts now, when the nights are 15/16 hours long, yet we seem to do it with such ease in spring, when the nights are shorter than the days.

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First frost this morning - reverse psychology in action!

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There's probably a 50:50 chance that early next week will record the first frost here - another very late one, I might add. If it doesn't and it's possible a strong overnight wind will stop it happening, this will likely be the second frostless autumn I've seen. 2011, which was the last frostless autumn, didn't see the first frost until 2 December and that was when I lived in Manchester.

Out of all the seasons, I think autumn has definitely warmed the most.

Not that rare here to actually have some form of lying snow before an air frost.   Being on a hill helps of course as it is not as frost prone as the valleys.  Low of 1.3c last night, lowest so far, some frost but not an air frost yet. 

 

 

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Not that rare here to actually have some form of lying snow before an air frost.   Being on a hill helps of course as it is not as frost prone as the valleys.  Low of 1.3c last night, lowest so far, some frost but not an air frost yet. 

 

 

just recorded an air frost here, -0.1C

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Not that rare here to actually have some form of lying snow before an air frost.   Being on a hill helps of course as it is not as frost prone as the valleys.  Low of 1.3c last night, lowest so far, some frost but not an air frost yet. 

 

 

By this time last year, we had already had our first air frost in October and there was an occasion just a few years ago when we had our first air frost of the season as early as September although this has only ever happened once as far as I can remember.

Indeed, it was around this time last year that we even had our first snowfall of the season here in Edinburgh.

We have finally had our first air frost of the season during last night, but this is probably our latest first air frost that I can remember and air frosts in October or earlier seem to be less common overall these days than what they used to be when I was a lot younger (even just going back to the 1980s) and even during the actual winter itself these days, we all too often struggle to get anything resembling a frost.

As far as early snowfalls are concerned, it seems that back in my primary school days (around the early to mid 1970s), snow in November appeared to be a fairly common event and yet, last year's experience of seeing snow at this time of the year was only the first such experience of that which I had witnessed in recent years.

In addition to that, I hadn't forgotten that after getting that snowfall last November, we then barely got any snow at all during the actual winter and that in itself, has become all too common an occurrence these days.

 

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I’m walking my dog in the woods near my house just now and it’s 2 degrees. This is more like it.

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