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johncs2016
03 September 2022 06:52:39

Just recently, I haven't really been in the mood for starting these threads but although last month was also drier than average yet again, it wasn't actually as dry as other recent months and the latest model output suggests that this month could actually end up being quite wet.


It may well dry up a bit once again as we get to the middle part of the month but I was watching Brian's latest video on the official TWO YouTube channel and the 10 day prediction chart from the ECMF model which I saw on that video suggests that we could well have already had more than our 1991-2020 September average rainfall by then with more than 100 mm in a few places.


The similar chart from the GFS model shows it to be not as wet as that, but this could all make for a more interesting month than what I have been witnessing for quite a while.


After a couple of summer-like days to start this month off, we are now going into a much more unsettled spell of weather, so I will expect this thread to become rather busy in the coming days.


In the meantime, I will kick things off by reporting that even after a damp start to this morning, this month's totals as at 7am BST (06:00 UTC) this morning stood at 0.4 mm at Edinburgh Gogarbank, whilst continuing to be stuck at 0.0 mm at the botanic gardens in Edinburgh where there has now been no recorded rainfall whatsoever for the last 7 days.


 


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Northern Sky
03 September 2022 09:45:08

Things are up and running for the month here with a mighty 1mm overnight.


It'll be an interesting month. The charts look unsettled but I'm less sure actual amounts will be that much. 

johncs2016
04 September 2022 10:32:35

The latest rainfall data for Edinburgh Gogarbank and the botanic gardens in Edinburgh are as follows:


Data For Recent Days


24 Hour Total Up To 10am BST this morning (09:00 UTC): 1.4 mm at Edinburgh Gogarbank along with 2.2 mm at the botanic gardens in Edinburgh


Monthly Data


Total for this month so far: 1.6 mm (2.9% of 1991-2020 September average) at Edinburgh Gogarbank along with 2.2 mm (4.0% of 1991-2020 September average) at the botanic gardens in Edinburgh
Number of rain days during this month so far: 1 (9.5% of 1991-2020 September average) at Edinburgh Gogarbank along with 1 (10.1% of 1991-2020 September average) at the botanic gardens in Edinburgh
Number of dry days during this month so far: 1 at Edinburgh Gogarbank along with 2 at the botanic gardens in Edinburgh


Seasonal Data


Total for this Autumn so far: 1.6 mm (0.8% of 1991-2020 Autumn average) at Edinburgh Gogarbank along with 2.2 mm (1.1% of 1991-2020 Autumn average) at the botanic gardens in Edinburgh
Number of rain days during this Autumn so far: 1 (2.7% of 1991-2020 Autumn average) at Edinburgh Gogarbank along with 1 (3.0% of 1991-2020 Autumn average) at the botanic gardens in Edinburgh
Number of dry days during this Autumn so far: 1 at Edinburgh Gogarbank along with 2 at the botanic gardens in Edinburgh


Annual Data


Total for this year so far: 360.0 mm (45.9% of 1991-2020 year average) at Edinburgh Gogarbank along with 308.6 mm (42.4% of 1991-2020 year average) at the botanic gardens in Edinburgh
Number of rain days during this year so far: 81 (58.9% of 1991-2020 year average) at Edinburgh Gogarbank along with 72 (56.1% of 1991-2020 year average) at the botanic gardens in Edinburgh
Number of dry days during this year so far: 127 at Edinburgh Gogarbank along with 127 at the botanic gardens in Edinburgh


Note


This data has been obtained from the Scottish Environmental Protection Agency (SEPA) by using a beta version of their latest upcoming API system.


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doctormog
04 September 2022 12:25:12

28mm here so far today (with 60mm a bit to the south at Inverbervie).

It looks like a good call from the Met Office re. the severe weather warning.


Not a good day for the start of the Tour of Britain.


four
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04 September 2022 12:27:10
Still 0.0mm here for the month but we have had sprinkly showers that briefly wet hard surfaces then evaporate.
fairweather
04 September 2022 18:59:37

Zero to date. 


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Gusty
04 September 2022 21:58:07

Still 0.0 mm here. I expect that number will start to increase in 24 hours time.


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Retron
05 September 2022 03:33:21

Five minutes of a heavy downpour from a front this morning kicks off this month's total here: 1.6mm fell.


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05 September 2022 06:43:35

Heavy rain yesterday evening, 40mm month to date.


Pat, Crawley Down, West Sussex.
speckledjim
05 September 2022 06:58:11
Already just about reached our total for August - 10mm to date.
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Tim A
05 September 2022 07:02:01
6.5mm so far. Was quite a burst of rain last night which accounts for most of that.
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johncs2016
05 September 2022 07:02:39


28mm here so far today (with 60mm a bit to the south at Inverbervie).

It looks like a good call from the Met Office re. the severe weather warning.


Not a good day for the start of the Tour of Britain.


Originally Posted by: doctormog 


Meanwhile and in complete contrast to what's happening up there, the rain just keeps on refusing to fall here in Edinburgh as the latest overnight band of rain which has now just about cleared away from here, produced the grand total of just 1.0 mm at Edinburgh Gogarbank and 0.4 mm at the botanic gardens in Edinburgh.


This is showing yet again how Edinburgh is fast developing a desert-like climate these days, and the fact that regardless of the model output and the synoptic setup, it just increasingly never rains here anymore (even Steve with the user name of Gusty on this forum, pointed that out really well just a couple of month's ago when he started July's precipitation thread on my behalf).


It is for that reason, that we never get anything else other than drier than average months here anymore, sometimes even substantially so and despite what the forecasts and the model output is showing, I can see absolutely nothing there which will convince me in any way that this situation is going to change here any time soon.


To be honest, I am just sick and tired of always seeing that same old outcome in that regard, and that is why I have lost so much interest in these threads just lately.


So, expect yet another drier than average month here once again whilst everywhere else gets a good soaking and some much needed rainfall from the latest so-called "unsettled" weather.


The north of Edinburgh, usually always missing out on snow events which occur not just within the rest of Scotland or the UK, but also within the rest of Edinburgh.
speckledjim
05 September 2022 08:30:15


 


Meanwhile and in complete contrast to what's happening up there, the rain just keeps on refusing to fall here in Edinburgh as the latest overnight band of rain which has now just about cleared away from here, produced the grand total of just 1.0 mm at Edinburgh Gogarbank and 0.4 mm at the botanic gardens in Edinburgh.


This is showing yet again how Edinburgh is fast developing a desert-like climate these days, and the fact that regardless of the model output and the synoptic setup, it just increasingly never rains here anymore (even Steve with the user name of Gusty on this forum, pointed that out really well just a couple of month's ago when he started July's precipitation thread on my behalf).


It is for that reason, that we never get anything else other than drier than average months here anymore, sometimes even substantially so and despite what the forecasts and the model output is showing, I can see absolutely nothing there which will convince me in any way that this situation is going to change here any time soon.


To be honest, I am just sick and tired of always seeing that same old outcome in that regard, and that is why I have lost so much interest in these threads just lately.


So, expect yet another drier than average month here once again whilst everywhere else gets a good soaking and some much needed rainfall from the latest so-called "unsettled" weather.


Originally Posted by: johncs2016 


You did though have plenty of rain in August 


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05 September 2022 08:40:28
A whole 0.2mm here around dawn
Northern Sky
05 September 2022 09:31:08

6.5mm so far. Was quite a burst of rain last night which accounts for most of that.

Originally Posted by: Tim A 


I've got it on 8mm so far down in Tinshill Tim. 5.5mm last night, 1.5mm Sat - Sun, and 1mm Fri - Sat. 


 

idj20
05 September 2022 09:38:51

A whole 0.2mm here around dawn

Originally Posted by: four 



Same here. 


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johncs2016
05 September 2022 09:48:18


 


You did though have plenty of rain in August 


Originally Posted by: speckledjim 


That is only a relative thing and you are correct in saying we did get quite a bit of rain here during August in comparison with what just about everyone else was reporting on here then.


However, August 2022 was a very exceptional month in which hardly anyone actually recorded very much in the way of rainfall and so, it was never going to take much for the totals for here to be higher than what was reported for elsewhere as a result.


Furthermore and although the totals for here were quite high during August in comparison with what others were reporting, our totals for here were still below our 1991-2020 August average.


What I am complaining about here is therefore, not any claim that we never actually get any rain, but the fact that our totals are ALWAYS below average (what it all boils down to is the fact that I'm just sick and fed up with that same old outcome all the time).


Occasionally, we might well get an odd day here and there when I will maybe record something like 10mm to 20mm of rain on that particular day, and I would never dispute the fact that this never happens. The big issue that I am raising here though is that this firstly doesn't happen all that happen and even when it does, it just about always then ends up being virtually bone dry here for days on end after that.


As long as that continues to be the case, our totals are always going to be below average in the end and that is the source of my overall frustration in this matter because unless we start to get some monthly totals which are actually above average, we are never even going to be able to begin to make up the overall rainfall deficit and at the moment, I am struggling to see that changing any time soon.


 


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fairweather
05 September 2022 10:48:34

1.2mm here overnight. Looks like it could be a wet month 


S.Essex, 42m ASL
tierradelfuego
05 September 2022 10:54:13
8.4mm here last night, most of that fell within the 30 mins during the thunderstorm before 1am.

Might need to mow the lawn this weekend for the 1st time in over a month.
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ARTzeman
05 September 2022 12:34:18

9.0 mm This Month.






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speckledjim
05 September 2022 13:05:04


 


That is only a relative thing and you are correct in saying we did get quite a bit of rain here during August in comparison with what just about everyone else was reporting on here then.


However, August 2022 was a very exceptional month in which hardly anyone actually recorded very much in the way of rainfall and so, it was never going to take much for the totals for here to be higher than what was reported for elsewhere as a result.


Furthermore and although the totals for here were quite high during August in comparison with what others were reporting, our totals for here were still below our 1991-2020 August average.


What I am complaining about here is therefore, not any claim that we never actually get any rain, but the fact that our totals are ALWAYS below average (what it all boils down to is the fact that I'm just sick and fed up with that same old outcome all the time).


Occasionally, we might well get an odd day here and there when I will maybe record something like 10mm to 20mm of rain on that particular day, and I would never dispute the fact that this never happens. The big issue that I am raising here though is that this firstly doesn't happen all that happen and even when it does, it just about always then ends up being virtually bone dry here for days on end after that.


As long as that continues to be the case, our totals are always going to be below average in the end and that is the source of my overall frustration in this matter because unless we start to get some monthly totals which are actually above average, we are never even going to be able to begin to make up the overall rainfall deficit and at the moment, I am struggling to see that changing any time soon.


 


Originally Posted by: johncs2016 


No idea why you would mind about getting below average rainfall. Fair enough if you were suffering drought conditions but I think most people in the Uk would be delighted with less rain 


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johncs2016
05 September 2022 13:58:54


 


No idea why you would mind about getting below average rainfall. Fair enough if you were suffering drought conditions but I think most people in the Uk would be delighted with less rain 


Originally Posted by: speckledjim 


To me, it's all just part and parcel of wanting to report something more interesting out there to this forum's wider audience which could well be anywhere on this entire planet.


Because of that, what I report is what I would see as being more interesting to the wider audience out there, and not necessarily what I am actually wanting in terms of our actual weather. As an example of that, I would like to see good weather all the time for going out and about and yes, an important part of that is that it should be dry so for those purposes alone, that is fair enough.


In the context of trying to keep everything more interesting on this forum though, that just gets a bit boring after all especially when it comes to the point we're now just about taking those conditions for granted, and I believe that the wider audience out there would actually rather see more interesting things happening with our weather, which is a lot more varied.


It's the same when it comes to our rainfall patterns as well, which is really just a part of that and so, it just gets boring after all if it's drier than average all the time as has been the case throughout most of this year.


However, we are not in an actual drought here and so, I'm not actually seeing the overall situation as being critical in any way in that regard as I would be if that was the case. However, there is a reason why we have long-term averages for aspects of our weather such as temperature and rainfall so when we stray too far away from those averages for too long, that can become increasingly concerning in my books.


For a number of years, this has already been quite a major story when it comes to our temperatures (after all, we wouldn't have anything like the same amount of controversy which is around when it comes to the subject of climate change if that wasn't the case), and I just wouldn't like to see the same things happening with our rainfall patterns as well.


 


The north of Edinburgh, usually always missing out on snow events which occur not just within the rest of Scotland or the UK, but also within the rest of Edinburgh.
Northern Sky
06 September 2022 07:36:54

7.5mm overnight taking the total to 15.5mm for the month. Almost up to August already!

speckledjim
06 September 2022 08:01:09
Now up to 16.6mm.
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lanky
06 September 2022 08:19:38

7.2mm from last nights rain and thunder bringing the September total up to 14.2mm so far


Still a long way behind the 68mm in August


Martin
Richmond, Surrey

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