The Beast from the East
09 August 2022 10:48:27

Normal heat returns in the south to end the month. Should get to 30 easily 


 


 


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Rob K
09 August 2022 11:03:51
Yes the 6Z has high pressure back in control by Thursday next week and back into the 30s by Saturday. The extent of the breakdown is one day (Wednesday) when temperatures fail to reach 25C!
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Ally Pally Snowman
09 August 2022 11:11:35

Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 


Azores high pushing back in again after the unsettled spell




A growing theme this morning.  


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Rob K
09 August 2022 11:14:43

GFS has ramped the heat up a bit more.

Max temps from Thursday of 35, 36, 37, 37, 35.

As Brian pointed out in a tweet, 35C is hotter than any day in the whole of the 1980s, and now we have five in a row modelled.


 


An outside chance of reaching 100F in two separate spells of weather almost a month apart.


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The Beast from the East
09 August 2022 11:20:55

If the 06z verifies then surely this summer will end up at the top of the league? Even better than 95 and 76?


But for the south I mean


 


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The Beast from the East
09 August 2022 11:22:03

Originally Posted by: Ally Pally Snowman 


 


A growing theme this morning.  



Looking at energy prices, we need the Azores high to stick around all winter as well!


 


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Jiries
09 August 2022 11:22:29

Originally Posted by: Rob K 


GFS has ramped the heat up a bit more.

Max temps from Thursday of 35, 36, 37, 37, 35.

As Brian pointed out in a tweet, 35C is hotter than any day in the whole of the 1980s, and now we have five in a row modelled.


 


An outside chance of reaching 100F in two separate spells of weather almost a month apart.



If the next few years time from hotter trends we would see 100F in early September plus June at some point.

Chidog
09 August 2022 11:22:53

Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 


 


Looking at energy prices, we need the Azores high to stick around all winter as well!


 



I think better for the Atlantic to fire up all winter and turn those wind turbines round

Jiries
09 August 2022 11:24:57

Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 


 


Looking at energy prices, we need the Azores high to stick around all winter as well!


 



Totally agreed especially Oct like 1995 did. 

Saint Snow
09 August 2022 11:34:14

Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 


If the 06z verifies then surely this summer will end up at the top of the league? Even better than 95 and 76?


But for the south I mean


 



 


One characteristic of this summer has been how regionalised the persistent good weather has been.


Many other regions (away from the W/N of Scotland) have had a decent summer with some very good spells, but the periods between the very good spells has been a bit 'meh' for most, but the SE quadrant has had better 'in between' weather.



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09 August 2022 11:49:45

Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 


If the 06z verifies then surely this summer will end up at the top of the league? Even better than 95 and 76?


But for the south I mean



The coolish nights in June I think will cost us the chance to beat 76 which got a huge June head start. Quite likely to be a hotter July-August than 1976 or 2018 and on a par - if something like 06z verifies - with July-Aug 1995 which was the daddy of school holiday heatwaves. 


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09 August 2022 11:56:08
The mid August rebuild has now consistently shown up on consecutive GFS runs and it’s there, though less marked, in the SLP averages in the GEFS and GEM ensembles. Mean pressure around 1016-17hPa by the 20th and staying there.

ECM Ens is a tiny bit lower pressure (1014-16) but still not bad.
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Tim A
09 August 2022 12:37:23

Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 


 


Looking at energy prices, we need the Azores high to stick around all winter as well!


 



Moderate SW Winds and mild nights would be better.


Who am I kidding though, I still want cold and snow.


 


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Rob K
09 August 2022 12:41:20

In terms of absolute maximum temperatures we are a long way behind 2018.

By this stage of the summer in 2018 we had had 24 days with a max of 30C or higher, of which 2 were 35C+. This year we have had 10 days of 30C+ with 2 of them 35C+ (both of which were 38+ and one of course was over 40!)

However, 2018 tailed off rapidly from this point and much of late August was rather cool.


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ozone_aurora
09 August 2022 14:23:01

Originally Posted by: Hungry Tiger 


 


Just remember this one. The hot August of 2003 fizzled out in the last 2 weeks of the month.


The heatwave of 1976 ended with a washout August Bank Holiday.


Hot spells can run into September . 2006 did that we had a hot July an iffy August - But September 2006 turned on the heat.


The summer of 1959 had a record dry September and even some heat in October.


 



I seem to recall that September 2003 had a good deal of warm, dry sunny weather after a cool end to August. There was a marked cooling event around 22nd, with temperatures dropping by 10 C or more on one late afternoon at number of stations, but fine weather returned and dominated October I also seem to remember until late month.

The Summer of 1976 did indeed end abruptly at August Bank Holiday, and September was a very unsettled and wet month. I seem to recall a Minister of Drought was going to be in place at that time.

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09 August 2022 15:17:55

Originally Posted by: ozone_aurora 



The Summer of 1976 did indeed end abruptly at August Bank Holiday, and September was a very unsettled and wet month. I seem to recall a Minister of Drought was going to be in place at that time.



Dennis Howell was actually in post and then it started raining a week later. 


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Then in 1978-9 he was appointed Minister for Snow


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The Beast from the East
09 August 2022 16:36:55

Much cooler GFS this time, but not too much rain in the SE


UKMO hard to say


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Bolty
09 August 2022 17:28:28
It's looking increasingly likely from the models that we may finally be having the classic August that many summer lovers have been wishing for for many years. Already this spell of settled weather will make it the best August since 2003 for the UK as a whole, but if the heat returns later on it will surely make it the best since 1995.

This is certainly going to be a summer for the history books, I think. Not up there with persistence, but the heat waves have been spectacular, especially if we see another 37/38°C at the end of this week.
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Rob K
09 August 2022 17:34:46

Originally Posted by: Bolty 

It's looking increasingly likely from the models that we may finally be having the classic August that many summer lovers have been wishing for for many years. Already this spell of settled weather will make it the best August since 2003 for the UK as a whole, but if the heat returns later on it will surely make it the best since 1995.

This is certainly going to be a summer for the history books, I think. Not up there with persistence, but the heat waves have been spectacular, especially if we see another 37/38°C at the end of this week.


If GFS 12Z op run verifies it would spoil August a bit though!


Also slightly "cooler" this week, if you can call 4 days of 35C cooler!


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Bertwhistle
09 August 2022 17:39:26

Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 


Much cooler GFS this time, but not too much rain in the SE


UKMO hard to say



Good to see the conversation back on the models.


12z looks as if it lacks the optimism of a late August recharge, as some have said.


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