The Weather Outlook

Remove ads from site

TimS
  • TimS
  • Advanced Member
20 July 2022 10:43:04

I saw on Twitter something implying Brogdale only managed 39.0C yesterday. Which seems strange given my PWS up in the downs got to 39.2C and generally doesn't over-report, and Brogdale is downslope in North Kent in a proper hotspot.

Brockley, South East London 30m asl
Caz
  • Caz
  • Advanced Member
20 July 2022 11:05:54

 

It is quite possible your area has experienced  the highest UK temp and the deepest lowland snow in the last 30 years....

Originally Posted by: Tim A 

  Possibly and I’ve lived to tell the tale.  You’ve still plenty of time to experience both.  Before 2010, I thought we’d never see decent snow again in the UK, then in July 2019, I thought I’d experienced a once in a lifetime record temp!  

Market Warsop, North Nottinghamshire.

Join the fun and banter of the monthly CET competition.

LeedsLad123
20 July 2022 11:08:12

I saw on Twitter something implying Brogdale only managed 39.0C yesterday. Which seems strange given my PWS up in the downs got to 39.2C and generally doesn't over-report, and Brogdale is downslope in North Kent in a proper hotspot.

Originally Posted by: TimS 

I feel like the Kent hotspots (Gravesend etc) haven’t featured all that much in recent heat records.

Whitkirk, Leeds - 85m ASL.
Ally Pally Snowman
20 July 2022 11:09:24

 

I feel like the Kent hotspots (Gravesend etc) haven’t featured all that much in recent heat records.

Originally Posted by: LeedsLad123 

Gravesend WS is now a shopping centre sadly 

Bishop's Stortford 85m ASL.
LeedsLad123
20 July 2022 11:11:46

 

Gravesend WS is now a shopping centre sadly 

Originally Posted by: Ally Pally Snowman 

Oh dear. Our station coverage gets worse and worse.

Whitkirk, Leeds - 85m ASL.
Ally Pally Snowman
20 July 2022 11:15:28

 

Oh dear. Our station coverage gets worse and worse.

Originally Posted by: LeedsLad123 

Yes its poor. Not sure why WS cant be that expensive and I'd imagine plenty of volunteers willing. 

Bishop's Stortford 85m ASL.
Caz
  • Caz
  • Advanced Member
20 July 2022 11:17:28

 

 

Yes if we had a better more widespread weather station network I think we would have seen 41c/42c yesterday. 

Originally Posted by: Ally Pally Snowman 

I think so too.  I’m sure there will have been pockets of greater heat around the country.  Gringley on the hill is not far from me and I’m in a valley.  I recorded 42.3c at the peak and although I think that’s high, I do wish there were an official station near me. 

Market Warsop, North Nottinghamshire.

Join the fun and banter of the monthly CET competition.

Caz
  • Caz
  • Advanced Member
20 July 2022 11:20:22

 

The Waddington reading was exactly the same as Coningsby so it doesn’t really make any difference. 

Originally Posted by: Rob K 

Exactly, as they are very close and both in similar rural settings in fairly flat terrain. 

Market Warsop, North Nottinghamshire.

Join the fun and banter of the monthly CET competition.

Ally Pally Snowman
20 July 2022 11:35:01

I think so too.  I’m sure there will have been pockets of greater heat around the country.  Gringley on the hill is not far from me and I’m in a valley.  I recorded 42.3c at the peak and although I think that’s high, I do wish there were an official station near me. 

Originally Posted by: Caz 

Yes East Midlands was the sweet spot yesterday.  Glad Coningsby got the record 

Bishop's Stortford 85m ASL.
Chunky Pea
20 July 2022 12:15:10

I think so too.  I’m sure there will have been pockets of greater heat around the country.  Gringley on the hill is not far from me and I’m in a valley.  I recorded 42.3c at the peak and although I think that’s high, I do wish there were an official station near me. 

Originally Posted by: Caz 

If you recorded 42.3c Caz, then that is what the temp was in your location and what you experienced. Might not be 'official', but it is valid for your one spot in the world. 

Patrick,

East Galway, Ireland.

Ally Pally Snowman
20 July 2022 12:29:55

1pm (1200Z) update:

HEATHROW 40.2
KEW GARDENS 39.5
NORTHOLT AUTOMATIC W 39.2
LONDON ST JAMESS PAR 39.1
Cambridge 39
TEDDINGTON BUSHY PAR 38.7
CHERTSEY, ABBEY MEAD 38.6
CHARLWOOD AUTOMATIC 38.6
WISLEY AUTOMATIC WEA 38.6
MONKS WOOD AUTOMATIC 38.5
SUTTON BONINGTON AUT 38.5
IVER W WKS AUTOMATIC 38.4
BEDFORD AUTOMATIC WE 38.3
CAMBRIDGE NIAB AUTOM 38.3
WRITTLE AUTOMATIC WE 38.1
Stansted 38
Kidlington 38
Lakenheath Raf 38

 

So at least 5 stations have broken the old record. Many more to come I think.

Originally Posted by: Rob K 

Rob, what site did you get this information from? 

Bishop's Stortford 85m ASL.
Rob K
20 July 2022 12:30:17

I saw on Twitter something implying Brogdale only managed 39.0C yesterday. Which seems strange given my PWS up in the downs got to 39.2C and generally doesn't over-report, and Brogdale is downslope in North Kent in a proper hotspot.

Originally Posted by: TimS 

Yes seems official: https://twitter.com/MetJam_/status/1549689461168295943

 

Ally - that was from weatherobs.com - zoom to the area and then click the list icon for the top stations.

 

Yateley, NE Hampshire, 73m asl

"But who wants to be foretold the weather? It is bad enough when it comes, without our having the misery of knowing about it beforehand." — Jerome K. Jerome

Ally Pally Snowman
20 July 2022 12:34:29

 

Yes seems official: https://twitter.com/MetJam_/status/1549689461168295943

 

Ally - that was from weatherobs.com - zoom to the area and then click the list icon for the top stations.

 

Originally Posted by: Rob K 

Thanks Rob

Bishop's Stortford 85m ASL.
Heavy Weather 2013
20 July 2022 12:52:43
I feel physically and mentally drained after the last two days. Living in an effective oven hadn’t helped
Mark

Beckton, E London

Less than 500m from the end of London City Airport runway.

Zubzero
20 July 2022 12:57:05

 

Rob, what site did you get this information from? 

Originally Posted by: Ally Pally Snowman 

 

I'm not Rob, but they are from 

http://weatherobs.com/ 

 

Gusty
20 July 2022 12:57:31

I saw on Twitter something implying Brogdale only managed 39.0C yesterday. Which seems strange given my PWS up in the downs got to 39.2C and generally doesn't over-report, and Brogdale is downslope in North Kent in a proper hotspot.

Originally Posted by: TimS 

Its possible that Brogdale may have been affected by a local sea breeze across parts of Sheppey and some other North Kent coastal stations ? See Darren's post yesterday. 

Steve - Folkestone, Kent

Current conditions from my Davis Vantage Vue

https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/IFOLKE11 

Join Kent Weather on Facebook.

https://www.facebook.com/stevewall69/ 



Ally Pally Snowman
20 July 2022 12:57:46

 

I'm not Rob, but they are from 

http://weatherobs.com/ 

 

Originally Posted by: Zubzero 

Thanks

 

Bishop's Stortford 85m ASL.
Rob K
20 July 2022 13:14:33
So following on from this historic spell, here is the updated list of the top 10 hottest days ever in the UK. Shame we didn't take both top spots, but never mind!

1: 40.3C - 19 July 2022 - Coningsby

2: 38.7C - 25 July 2019 - Cambridge Botanic Garden

3: 38.5C - 10 August 2003 - Brogdale

4: 38.1C* - 18 July 2022 - Santon Downham

5: 37.8C - 31 July 2020 - Heathrow

6: 37.1C - 3 August 1990 - Cheltenham

7=: 36.7C - 1 July 2015 - Heathrow

7=: 36.7C - 9 August 1911 - Raunds

9: 36.6C - 2 August 1990 - Worcester

10: 36.5C - 19 July 2006 - Wisley

This has pushed two 36.4C days (7 August 2020 at Kew Gardens and 6 August 2003 at Gravesend) out of the top 10.

It also means 4 out of the top 5 hottest days ever have occurred within the last three years (from today, not calendar years), and 7 out of 10 within the last 20 years. I'm sure it won't be long before those stragglers from the 20th century get demoted too.

(* the actual figure was recorded as 38.15C in the raw data, so I am not sure why it was not rounded up!)

Yateley, NE Hampshire, 73m asl

"But who wants to be foretold the weather? It is bad enough when it comes, without our having the misery of knowing about it beforehand." — Jerome K. Jerome

Caz
  • Caz
  • Advanced Member
20 July 2022 13:18:00

 

If you recorded 42.3c Caz, then that is what the temp was in your location and what you experienced. Might not be 'official', but it is valid for your one spot in the world. 

Originally Posted by: Chunky Pea 

  That’s quite true! 

Market Warsop, North Nottinghamshire.

Join the fun and banter of the monthly CET competition.

scillydave
20 July 2022 13:24:45

  That’s quite true! 

Originally Posted by: Caz 

Caz, you were right in the heart of where the models were forecasting the highest temperatures so I wouldn't be surprised if your reading wasn't too far off.

I certainly think the lack of stations meant that we missed out on having a much higher officially recorded temperature. 

Currently living at roughly 65m asl North of Cowbridge in the Vale of Glamorgan.

Formerly of, Birdlip, highest village in the Cotswolds and snow heaven in winter; Hawkinge in Kent - roof of the South downs and Isles of Scilly, paradise in the UK.

Caz
  • Caz
  • Advanced Member
20 July 2022 13:57:50

 

Caz, you were right in the heart of where the models were forecasting the highest temperatures so I wouldn't be surprised if your reading wasn't too far off.

I certainly think the lack of stations meant that we missed out on having a much higher officially recorded temperature. 

Originally Posted by: scillydave 

 

Market Warsop, North Nottinghamshire.

Join the fun and banter of the monthly CET competition.

johncs2016
20 July 2022 15:50:41

I've just watched Gavin P.'s latest 10-14 day forecast video where he mentioned that the provisional Scottish record from yesterday is now up to 35.1°C as recorded at Floors Castle in Roxburghshire in the Scottish Borders.

That indeed has also been confirmed on Sean Beatty's Twitter feed which means that the particular station which I have just mentioned, has now taken over from Charterhall as the current provisional record holder although Floor's Castle is also not far from here in Hawick, and that was also deemed before the event itself, to be the favourite to take that title which the actual record is officially confirmed by the Met Office.

In a recent post when I was talking about 18:00 UTC SYNOP codes etc., I did predict that the actual record might end up being over 35°C, and that has now been shown to be correct.

The north of Edinburgh, usually always missing out on snow events which occur not just within the rest of Scotland or the UK, but also within the rest of Edinburgh.

idj20
20 July 2022 15:57:56
Jesus, the amount of people on social media comparing Summer 1976 and this recent exceptional hot spell and treating it like there is some kind of hidden agenda just makes me despair for mankind. Both Summers will be remembered but for different reasons, nothing more nothing less.

Horses for courses and all that as attitudes changes as we go into the internet era and we look back at the past with rose tinted lens.

Home location: Folkestone Harbour.
fairweather
20 July 2022 15:58:22

It is strange that today's maximum (so far) is much later than the last two days here. 26.9C at 16.40.

S.Essex, 42m ASL

Remove ads from site