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Saint Snow
15 December 2021 10:08:44

Our weather always finds a way to turn things sh*tty, wet and mild.


 


 



Martin
Home: St Helens (26m asl) Work: Manchester (75m asl)
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"How can wealth persuade poverty to use its political freedom to keep wealth in power? Here lies the whole art of Conservative politics."
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DEW
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15 December 2021 10:22:02


Our weather always finds a way to turn things sh*tty, wet and mild.


 

Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 


" The Lord giveth and the Lord taketh away ..."


War does not determine who is right, only who is left - Bertrand Russell

Chichester 12m asl
NMA
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15 December 2021 11:11:31


" The Lord giveth and the Lord taketh away ..."


Originally Posted by: DEW 


"We've been sent good weather"


"Praise be."


I've recently started the Elisabeth Moss Handmaids Tale better late than never I suppose. 


If you want dystopian fare in a pandemic there's plenty of parallels with today. Chillingly close perhaps.


 


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Saint Snow
15 December 2021 11:17:04


 


"We've been sent good weather"


"Praise be."


I've recently started the Elisabeth Moss Handmaids Tale better late than never I suppose. 


If you want dystopian fare in a pandemic there's plenty of parallels with today. Chillingly close perhaps.


 


Originally Posted by: NMA 


 


More for the UIA, but a scarily big chunk of the American electorate view Gilead as a paradise on Earth.


 


 



Martin
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A TWO addict since 14/12/01
"How can wealth persuade poverty to use its political freedom to keep wealth in power? Here lies the whole art of Conservative politics."
Aneurin Bevan
fairweather
17 December 2021 11:36:02

2 hours of sunshine in the last week. 14 hours in the last two weeks. Dark, cloudy, mild. The joys of the modern winter high pressure!


Still, at least it will be dry.


S.Essex, 42m ASL
Saint Snow
17 December 2021 12:38:26


2 hours of sunshine in the last week. 14 hours in the last two weeks. Dark, cloudy, mild. The joys of the modern winter high pressure!


Still, at least it will be dry.


Originally Posted by: fairweather 


 


The last 3 days we've had the sun burn through the murk for varying amounts of time. I think today could get about 4-5 hours sunshine here; there's a little wispy cirrus around, but nothing thick.


 



Martin
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A TWO addict since 14/12/01
"How can wealth persuade poverty to use its political freedom to keep wealth in power? Here lies the whole art of Conservative politics."
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richardabdn
18 December 2021 09:52:57

Just when I thought things couldn't sink any lower we now have the bizarre spectacle of North Sea crud in winter 


Absolutely revolting beyond belief. I keep thinking this has to be a nightmare and I will wake up but no it just goes on and on.


As if July to November wasn't rank enough we are now looking at the third consecutive Saturday in December with zero sunshine and each of them following on from a 5 hr sunshine Friday 


In fact every weekday since the 9th has managed at least 1-2 hours of sunshine which is all you need really at this time of year to be able to enjoy some time outdoors. Just the weekend days that see the relentless suicide -inducing grey all day long 


Will this ever end? The record for consecutive cloudy Saturdays was broken a long time ago and still it goes on and on. 13 on the trot now. Well beyond the bounds of credulity 


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fairweather
19 December 2021 11:15:48


 


 


The last 3 days we've had the sun burn through the murk for varying amounts of time. I think today could get about 4-5 hours sunshine here; there's a little wispy cirrus around, but nothing thick.


 


Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 


Well I'm not surprised. The weather rule books have been ripped up in the last decade. The S.E and East Anglia rarely gets a Continental type of in the last decade. We have become an Atlantic type of Doldrums whereas the West gets more sun and more snow these days.


Today everywhere is soaked after days of constant drizzle. 4C at 11.00 am. Nothing good and sunless now for two weeks.


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Bolty
21 December 2021 17:52:54
Thank God we're at the winter solstice! There is nothing I hate more in winter than that horrible 16:00 darkness, made worse when you get days on end of overcast muck, like today. It's just so draining and depressing, and I wonder how the Finns or the Icelandics must cope with it. At least every day now brings an improvement, if very slow at first.
Scott
Blackrod, Lancashire (4 miles south of Chorley) at 156m asl.
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johncs2016
21 December 2021 20:16:26

Thank God we're at the winter solstice! There is nothing I hate more in winter than that horrible 16:00 darkness, made worse when you get days on end of overcast muck, like today. It's just so draining and depressing, and I wonder how the Finns or the Icelandics must cope with it. At least every day now brings an improvement, if very slow at first.

Originally Posted by: Bolty 


I'm very much in the opposite camp in that regard because I actually get more depressed during the summer months if we are getting constant grey skies (as we tend to get here) at the very time of the year when we should be getting more in the way of sunshine. At this time of year though, that doesn't matter so much because it's dark for most of the time anyway which means that I don't get to see as much of those depressing grey skies during the day.


My biggest gripe with those constant grey skies comes from the fact that the temperatures then as a result, refuse to drop and that has certainly been an important factor during this winter so far. Today was our coldest day of the winter so far at Edinburgh Gogarbank with a maximum temperature of 2.6°C, but that is only 0.3°C below the officially recorded minimum temperature as at 6am this morning.


From that, it is easy to see what has been ruining this winter for us so far because this constant lack of any real diurnal temperature range even whilst we have been under high pressure just sums up how boring and uninteresting our weather here in Edinburgh generally is.


During this winter so far, our daytime maximum temperatures have generally been OK. We did recently get a few days of double figures temperatures, but that has been our only really mild spell of this winter so far and thankfully, that was only fairly brief. In fact, our daytime maximum temperatures at Edinburgh Gogarbank are actually running slightly below the newly released 1991-2020 average for that particular station (those new averages were only just realeased last week by the Met Office).


In the same way that one of the factors which make up a decent summer is that it should warmer than average overall, the opposite of that is true at this time of the year so that one of the factors which makes up a "decent" winter is that it should be colder than average. That is why we are doing OK as far as daytime maximum temperatures are concerned.


However, it is a completely different story when it comes to our overnight minimum temperatures because at the moment, the overnight minimum temperatures at Edinburgh Gogarbank is running almost 2°C above even those 1991-2020 averages which I have just mentioned. The result of this is that our average temperatures are currently running at almost 1°C above average at that same station.


The end result of this is that we have had only 3 air frosts during the whole of this month so far at Edinburgh Gogarbank which is absolutely pathetic for a winter month, not to mention that we still haven't had any lying snow during this winter so far.


However, this is what happens when the temperatures at night in particular, just keep on refusing to drop and that is something which has beeing going on here ever since the start of the autumn. Even tonight, the temperatures under overcast skies are still refusing to drop here even though the temperatures are forecast to get down to around -10°C in some places and because of that, it wouldn't surprise me if I woke up to yet another frost-free horror show tomorrow morning.


The north of Edinburgh, usually always missing out on snow events which occur not just within the rest of Scotland or the UK, but also within the rest of Edinburgh.
Joe Bloggs
21 December 2021 21:20:27

My moan - it never ever snows here with the setup we look to get over Christmas. 


The Midlands/Wales nearly always gets the snow whereas we usually stay dry with a chilly wind.


Even if the precipitation does get this far north, unless there is a REALLY active front with low heights, the Pennines tend to kill off the snow anyway. 


I just can’t get excited by this one. Been here too many times. 😂


Last Christmas was actually quite wintry here, I doubt we’ll get a repeat this time round. 



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roadrunnerajn
21 December 2021 21:31:45

This latest chase for cold snowy weather has latest over 7 days now and since the beginning not one model has shown the cold getting anywhere near the SW. It would take a Christmas miracle for that to change…


Germoe, part of the breakaway Celtic Republic.
Saint Snow
21 December 2021 23:22:50

Finally some cold today & tonight!!


This 'cold spell' really hasn't happened like I expected it would this time last week. Very poor. 



Martin
Home: St Helens (26m asl) Work: Manchester (75m asl)
A TWO addict since 14/12/01
"How can wealth persuade poverty to use its political freedom to keep wealth in power? Here lies the whole art of Conservative politics."
Aneurin Bevan
Saint Snow
21 December 2021 23:24:05


My moan - it never ever snows here with the setup we look to get over Christmas. 


The Midlands/Wales nearly always gets the snow whereas we usually stay dry with a chilly wind.


Even if the precipitation does get this far north, unless there is a REALLY active front with low heights, the Pennines tend to kill off the snow anyway. 


I just can’t get excited by this one. Been here too many times. 😂


Last Christmas was actually quite wintry here, I doubt we’ll get a repeat this time round. 


Originally Posted by: Joe Bloggs 


 


Manchester Airport didn't have even a technical white Xmas last year 


 



Martin
Home: St Helens (26m asl) Work: Manchester (75m asl)
A TWO addict since 14/12/01
"How can wealth persuade poverty to use its political freedom to keep wealth in power? Here lies the whole art of Conservative politics."
Aneurin Bevan
johncs2016
22 December 2021 00:21:19

Another point which I can add to the one which I made earlier on is that during every winter, there is usually at least one night when the temperature at Edinburgh Airport will get down to some really low level such as around -7°C or -8°C even though the overnight minimum temperature at Edinburgh Gogarbank and the botanic gardens in Edinburgh might not necessarily come even close to being as cold as that.


However, that is something which has never happened during this winter so far. As a result of that, our lowest temperature so far across my three local stations is -2.2°C as recorded on 6 December 2021 which is very poor indeed and just to show how poor that is, this is basically the winter equivalent of the south of England never getting above the low 20s°C during the summer which is something which would generally never happen even during our worst summers.


 


The north of Edinburgh, usually always missing out on snow events which occur not just within the rest of Scotland or the UK, but also within the rest of Edinburgh.
johncs2016
22 December 2021 00:33:15

Whilst I'm at it and on a separate topic, I have just seen the latest official Met Office forecast for Christmas Day which is showing a maximum temperature of around 5°C here in Edinburgh which isn't even all that cold for this time of the year.


Up until now, there has always been a lot of uncertainty about Christmas in the model output, but that was always about whether it would be cold or not down in England. Scotland on the other hand, was supposedly going to be guaranteed a cold Christmas, albeit mostly dry with nothing more than a few snow showers.


So much then for that cold Christmas which we were supposedly going to be getting.


The north of Edinburgh, usually always missing out on snow events which occur not just within the rest of Scotland or the UK, but also within the rest of Edinburgh.
Heavy Weather 2013
22 December 2021 07:06:05
Infuriating that the last 10 days of model watching were a complete waste of time yet again.

We will be seeing pictures from the rest of Europe over the coming days while we continue with the boring weather.
Mark
Beckton, E London
Less than 500m from the end of London City Airport runway.
roadrunnerajn
22 December 2021 08:01:46

Yes boring indeed, if this morning output is correct then down here in the far SW we will have the worse of nothingness. Windy but nothing but a nuisance, grey but only mizzle falling. Mild but due to the sea temps we will be in a perpetual 10-12c day or night.  
We haven’t recorded one ground frost so far this autumn/ winter, unusual even for down here.


This is my worse fears for winter as it is so depressing especially after the festive season has past.


 


Germoe, part of the breakaway Celtic Republic.
snowtastic
22 December 2021 08:26:33

A frost or two ‘round Winter Solstice Day,
mean’ two month o’ rain be on its way.

And:

Autumn muck ‘round Christmas time,
mean’ last week in May, it will be fine.


 


tallyho_83
22 December 2021 13:44:43
Another dull and dank over cast day - still yet to record it's first frost of the winter here in Exeter! Models have flipped to a horrific nightmare for most after so much promise and now we are expecting wind and rain for Xmas day here in Exeter:

Meanwhile in Moscow daytime temperatures some 16c to -18c below the seasonal average with a max of -22c today:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/524901 


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Laths
22 December 2021 18:56:04
Whilst we here look to to warm up , Vancouver looks to be heading for the freezer over the festive period. A record forecast apparently
John
Wallington
Surrey
(London Borough of Sutton)
Zubzero
22 December 2021 22:00:56

Pouring with rain @ 0.4C and a dp of 0.0C 


Cant get any more annoying, has to be perfect conditions here now to get any snow 👿

tallyho_83
23 December 2021 01:22:52


Pouring with rain @ 0.4C and a dp of 0.0C 


Cant get any more annoying, has to be perfect conditions here now to get any snow 👿


Originally Posted by: Zubzero 


Please included your location as no one knows where you're reporting from!?


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Zubzero
23 December 2021 03:01:46


 


Please included your location as no one knows where you're reporting from!?


Originally Posted by: tallyho_83 


Had not noticed it was not showing as put location in City, and not where do you live in profile settings. Should be sorted now.

Joe Bloggs
23 December 2021 13:42:03


 


 


Manchester Airport didn't have even a technical white Xmas last year 


 


Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 


I’m surprised by that, we had a decent snow shower in my patch! What a ballache! 



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