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polarwind
09 December 2021 19:07:34

Originally Posted by: Chunky Pea 


 


I had a look and can't find anything on their site. However, I did find this article from March 2020 claiming that same thing:


Northern Hemisphere Total Snow Mass Currently Running 300 Gigatons above the 1982-2012 Average - Electroverse


 


 


 


 



I think you've confirmed with your search, what I suspected. 


Thanks

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GezM
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10 December 2021 11:37:32

Originally Posted by: Sevendust 


Not that unusual but always interesting (Cyprus)


https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=451281486552793&aggr_v_ids[0]=451281486552793&notif_id=1639087158901172&notif_t=watch_follower_video&ref=notif


 


Looks beautiful. Always nice to see snow in Cyprus and I can only find one webcam up in the Troodos mountains that gives a reasonable view.


http://www.skicyprus.com/webcam/


Typically there is snow cover up on the ski slopes through Jan and Feb so this is a touch earlier than usual. Looks like it is already melting quite rapidly though ....

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Sevendust
10 December 2021 20:13:25

Originally Posted by: GezM 


 Looks beautiful. Always nice to see snow in Cyprus and I can only find one webcam up in the Troodos mountains that gives a reasonable view.


http://www.skicyprus.com/webcam/


Typically there is snow cover up on the ski slopes through Jan and Feb so this is a touch earlier than usual. Looks like it is already melting quite rapidly though ....



Our friends in Cyprus go snowboarding in Troodos but it is quite fickle for snow but given the warm Med and polar plunges across a long land track there are occasions when copious snow falls there

scillydave
11 December 2021 07:19:50
Reports coming in of an historic and catastrophic tornado in the state of Kentucky. It looks to be the longest lived tornado ever recorded with a time on the ground of over 3 and a 1/2 hours and a track length in excess of 280 miles.
Some early reports suggest the light debris field (paper, leaves etc) covers around half of the entire state of Kentucky.


https://www.kentucky.com/news/state/kentucky/article256508126.html 
Currently living at roughly 65m asl North of Cowbridge in the Vale of Glamorgan.

Formerly of, Birdlip, highest village in the Cotswolds and snow heaven in winter; Hawkinge in Kent - roof of the South downs and Isles of Scilly, paradise in the UK.
polarwind
11 December 2021 10:56:36

Originally Posted by: scillydave 

Reports coming in of an historic and catastrophic tornado in the state of Kentucky. It looks to be the longest lived tornado ever recorded with a time on the ground of over 3 and a 1/2 hours and a track length in excess of 280 miles.
Some early reports suggest the light debris field (paper, leaves etc) covers around half of the entire state of Kentucky.


https://www.kentucky.com/news/state/kentucky/article256508126.html


 


It always amazers me how fast they can travel. Over 70mph here!

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polarwind
11 December 2021 11:01:12

 


This topic is also covered in new thread by ally pally Snowman 


 


Just read this -


Quote:




The governor of the US state of Kentucky has warned that more than 50 people are thought to have been killed by tornadoes overnight.






Andy Beshear said the figure could rise to as many as 100 in what he called the worst tornadoes in the state's history.






He said the number was "probably closer to somewhere between 70 and 100, it's devastating".






Tornadoes are wreaking havoc across several US states, with workers trapped in an Amazon warehouse in Illinois.






One person also died and 20 people were trapped inside in an Arkansas nursing home after it partly collapsed, Craighead county judge Marvin Day told the Associated Press.






The building was cleared around 90 minutes later but searches are continuing, he said, adding that some residents had been hiding in the basement as the tornado approached.


and......


 


from-




https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-59620091


 

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polarwind
21 December 2021 21:49:27


 


 


Malaysia has been hit by some of the worst flooding to hit the country in decades.


Over the weekend torrential rain battered the country and caused severe flooding in eight states, partially submerging some towns and villages.


It is believed at least 14 people have died as a result of the floods and tens of thousands have been evacuated from their homes.


The Malaysian Military are running search and rescue operations by boats and delivering supplies to people who are still trapped in their homes.


The situation could get worse as the Meteorological Department predicted more heavy rainfall and storms in the coming days, which could lead to more flooding.





 

See -https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-59749146


 

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22 December 2021 12:03:45

Meanwhile in other news.


The place I used to work in was recently pummelled by a typhoon.


Not unheard of but in all the time I was there the ‘big one’ was noticeable by its absence. Though in times past they do come along. I experienced some notable floods but the town of Roxas I once described as like a Western film set ‘a dusty one horse town without the horse’ is in ruins.


Houses of nipa palm and bamboo do not survive a storm but even here it seems even some of the concrete structures were destroyed. Road access from the south is no more and even bridges I thought would survive have been washed out.


It’s of course a heaven sent opportunity for a munificent China to move in. We’ll have to see what happens.


Interesting that South Korea though is active with food aid. Have to see how the US will react.


https://www.facebook.com/PalawanNewsPage/


 


 

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polarwind
24 December 2021 16:02:58

 


Interesting numbers this year of High Arctic freezing days. Seems to be unusual and out of sync. with recent years but in line this year with increased early ice extent.


see -https://sites.uci.edu/zlabe/files/2021/12/dmi_tdd_80N.png 


 


What do readers think? Any comments?

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"If climate science is sound and accurate, then it should be able to respond effectively to all the points raised…." - Grandad
"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts". - Bertrand Russell
"Science is the belief in the ignorance of the experts" – Richard Feynman
"A consensus means that everyone agrees to say collectively what no one believes individually.”- Abba Eban, Israeli diplomat
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polarwind
24 December 2021 16:24:18

 


Record breaking snow fall in Prince George British Columbia. 


see -


https://www.myprincegeorgenow.com/153368/pg-records-35cm-of-snow-in-24-hourscorr/ 


 


 

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"If climate science is sound and accurate, then it should be able to respond effectively to all the points raised…." - Grandad
"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts". - Bertrand Russell
"Science is the belief in the ignorance of the experts" – Richard Feynman
"A consensus means that everyone agrees to say collectively what no one believes individually.”- Abba Eban, Israeli diplomat
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Essan
24 December 2021 16:26:31

Originally Posted by: polarwind 


 Interesting numbers this year of High Arctic freezing days. Seems to be unusual and out of sync. with recent years but in line this year with increased early ice extent.


see -https://sites.uci.edu/zlabe/files/2021/12/dmi_tdd_80N.png 


 


What do readers think? Any comments?





More record cold as well as more record heat?   Follows the patterns elsewhere - more extremes in all directions.

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polarwind
24 December 2021 16:37:44

Originally Posted by: Essan 





More record cold as well as more record heat?   Follows the patterns elsewhere - more extremes in all directions.


Yes as a result of more meridional type synoptics? 


Thinking about the Arctic, how do you see or explain the much reduced ice thaw days this year (earlier post) in relation to the 'more extremes in all directions' and more meridional synoptics which is behind that position?

"The professional standards of science must impose a framework of discipline and at the same time encourage rebellion against it". – Michael Polyani (1962)
"If climate science is sound and accurate, then it should be able to respond effectively to all the points raised…." - Grandad
"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts". - Bertrand Russell
"Science is the belief in the ignorance of the experts" – Richard Feynman
"A consensus means that everyone agrees to say collectively what no one believes individually.”- Abba Eban, Israeli diplomat
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Devonian
24 December 2021 16:44:20

Originally Posted by: polarwind 


Yes as a result of more meridional type synoptics? 


Thinking about the Arctic, how do you see or explain the much reduced ice thaw days this year (earlier post) in relation to the 'more extremes in all directions' and more meridional synoptics which is behind that position?



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polarwind
24 December 2021 17:35:55

Originally Posted by: Devonian 


 


Even the greatest team that wins a league loses a few matches.


"The professional standards of science must impose a framework of discipline and at the same time encourage rebellion against it". – Michael Polyani (1962)
"If climate science is sound and accurate, then it should be able to respond effectively to all the points raised…." - Grandad
"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts". - Bertrand Russell
"Science is the belief in the ignorance of the experts" – Richard Feynman
"A consensus means that everyone agrees to say collectively what no one believes individually.”- Abba Eban, Israeli diplomat
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Gandalf The White
24 December 2021 17:47:57

Perthite started a thread about the record-breaking heat in Perth.


“Heatwave upgrade! Now predicting 43c for Christmas Day and 44c for Boxing Day. It will be the hottest Christmas in over 100 years of records. So a notable event.”



 Latest forecast maxima:


Xmas Day 42c


Boxing Day 43c


Monday 41c


Tuesday 39c


Wednesday 38c


 

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Essan
24 December 2021 19:40:25

Originally Posted by: polarwind 


Yes as a result of more meridional type synoptics? 


Thinking about the Arctic, how do you see or explain the much reduced ice thaw days this year (earlier post) in relation to the 'more extremes in all directions' and more meridional synoptics which is behind that position?




Reduced ice thaw in some places. More in others.  Increasing  Extremes.

(and since I know you want me too say it: global warming)

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polarwind
24 December 2021 20:41:26

Originally Posted by: Essan 




Reduced ice thaw in some places. More in others.  Increasing  Extremes.

(and since I know you want me too say it: global warming)


The reduced summer Ice thaw is in a place universally accepted to have a greater temperature response than elsewhere to global warming. This being the case, it should be considered reasonable to expect The Arctic Basin to respond to global cooling more quickly than elsewhere on Earth.


I am not suggesting that global cooling has started - there is no evidence to support that, but if a trend in the Arctic of reduced ice thawing develops, then we should take notice. Meanwhile like the extreme high temperatures in Perth, it is worth noting - and in these times, imo, is totally unexpected.

"The professional standards of science must impose a framework of discipline and at the same time encourage rebellion against it". – Michael Polyani (1962)
"If climate science is sound and accurate, then it should be able to respond effectively to all the points raised…." - Grandad
"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts". - Bertrand Russell
"Science is the belief in the ignorance of the experts" – Richard Feynman
"A consensus means that everyone agrees to say collectively what no one believes individually.”- Abba Eban, Israeli diplomat
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polarwind
27 December 2021 13:24:52

USA and Canada - some parts either exceptionally warm, very wet and stormy with flooding, or very snowy and/or dangerously cold.


 


see - https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-59800032 

"The professional standards of science must impose a framework of discipline and at the same time encourage rebellion against it". – Michael Polyani (1962)
"If climate science is sound and accurate, then it should be able to respond effectively to all the points raised…." - Grandad
"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts". - Bertrand Russell
"Science is the belief in the ignorance of the experts" – Richard Feynman
"A consensus means that everyone agrees to say collectively what no one believes individually.”- Abba Eban, Israeli diplomat
Dave,Derby
polarwind
27 December 2021 13:57:41

Severe cold in parts of India with records falling.


 


see -


https://www.republicworld.com/india-news/general-news/imd-issues-red-alert-as-severe-cold-wave-conditions-prevail-in-northern-states-of-india.html  


 


 

"The professional standards of science must impose a framework of discipline and at the same time encourage rebellion against it". – Michael Polyani (1962)
"If climate science is sound and accurate, then it should be able to respond effectively to all the points raised…." - Grandad
"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts". - Bertrand Russell
"Science is the belief in the ignorance of the experts" – Richard Feynman
"A consensus means that everyone agrees to say collectively what no one believes individually.”- Abba Eban, Israeli diplomat
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