Longer term outlook looks pretty good to me from about middle of next week most days look like being around 25c with high pressure, certainly better than last Summer.

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I know what you mean Joe, my wife and I spent a very nice few days in the city earlier this month and no-one would belive the tan on my face came from Manchester!

 I can well believe you got tanning lotion in Manchester, it is a common product

 

I have to say I’m loving every second of this. Let me explain why. 

I often get sick and tired of the baseless, annoying stereotypical commentary about Manchester’s weather, more specifically its rainfall. This more especially from people who move here from other parts of the country.

I hear it every single day - it’s become a natural part of small talk. 

“it always rains in Manchester”. Well no actually, it doesn’t.

”it’s never sunny here”. My sunburn will tell you different.

”it never gets hot ever” . Well actually it does sometimes. In summer quite often actually. 

When viewing an apartment balcony last year: “not that you’ll get much chance of sitting out here knowing Manchester’s weather”. Well actually I’ve been sitting in the park all lockdown as it’s been sunny the entire time.

Yes it is statistically wetter here in terms of rain days than most major towns and cities in the UK (NOT Glasgow) which is much wetter, but Cardiff for example gets more rain in terms of the amount of water. But the city’s wet reputation is overstated all the time and it gets right on my nerves. I always bite back as well which must make me seem a bit odd and anal about it. 

Rant over! 😂😂😂

 

 

Manchester 15th rainfall volume, 9th for rainy days.

Liverpool a few places drier.

Leeds is wetter than both (which I find surprising)

 

 

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I know we're venturing way off topic but the rainfall stats are interesting, particularly that Manchester is drier than Leeds!

I think in a country as small as Britain relief is probably the biggest determinant of rainfall. Take my field for example. It's in Kent, which contains some of the driest sites in Britain close to the sea particularly the Thames Estuary. It is in the far South East. But being inland(ish) and in a N-S valley up in the downs at about 80m asl it actually gets a lot of rain, despite also getting lots of sunshine and warm average temperatures. I've measured 569mm in the year to date and considering the second half of the year is on average wetter, that probably means ending up somewhere between 1,200 and 1,500mm for the year. More what you might associate with the Welsh hills. There are 2 stations within 5 miles of me one of which gets almost exactly 50% of my rainfall (on the Eastern side of the ridge and I am on the West), the other about 75% (on the Northern edge). Some of that may be rain gauge calibration in the other sites but I know mine is pretty accurate as I've calibrated it with a physical collector.    

By the way this evening's ICON is a nice one. The rain ends mid week and tops out at 28mm in Wessex and 25mm around London (2mm in Manc, zero in Glasgow).

 

 

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Before LeedsLad comes on and whips us all into shape, I can pretty confidently say Manchester is wetter than Leeds (certainly in terms of rain days, not sure about actual rainfall).

Leeds’s figures are misrepresented from the Bingley weather station which is 200m up in the Pennines - for Leeds itself you’d be better off using Church Fenton which is much much drier. 

Manchester (Woodford) is also wetter than Liverpool (Crosby) but not by much. 

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And yes, apologies for the off topic posts but it’s very interesting. 🙂

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https://www.wetterzentrale.de/maps/UKMOPEU12_144_1.png

That trough really is hugging the Channel like a limpet isn’t it? Poor Moomin. 

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https://www.wetterzentrale.de/maps/UKMOPEU12_144_1.png

That trough really is hugging the Channel like a limpet isn’t it? Poor Moomin. 

7 day rainfall totals per this evening's GFS:

London 74mm(!)

Manchester 9mm

Glasgow 2mm

Skye and most of the Western Isles: zero mm.

I went on holiday to Skye around this time last year and it rained non-stop from start to finish.    

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Mean max temps for next 7 days:

London 20.2C (an improvement on this morning)
Manchester 22.2C
Glasgow 21.4C

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7 day rainfall totals per this evening's GFS:

London 74mm(!)

Manchester 9mm

Glasgow 2mm

Skye and most of the Western Isles: zero mm.

I went on holiday to Skye around this time last year and it rained non-stop from start to finish.    

The north west is often most favoured through April and May but that anticyclone usually gives out early in June then you are lucky to get more a couple of dry days together.
For the same reason the east coast can get days/weeks on end of easterlies and northerlies at roughly the same time.

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Further on into this GFS and nature is healing.

Is there any more “average” summer chart than this?

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https://www.wetterzentrale.de/maps/UKMOPEU12_144_1.png

That trough really is hugging the Channel like a limpet isn’t it? Poor Moomin. 

I don't see any LP anywhere in UK all covered with large 1020mb HP so should be sunny and warm everywhere?   Either the charts is wrong or misleading which I been seeing different conditions on surface daily against what the charts showing HP every day.

And yes, apologies for the off topic posts but it’s very interesting. 🙂

 Apologies from me too but it is interesting and topography has a lot of influence on microclimates.  I can vouch for that, living in the lee of the Pennines.  Sorry can’t offer any comments on the models!  I’m just a spectator.   

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I don't see any LP anywhere in UK all covered with large 1020mb HP so should be sunny and warm everywhere?   Either the charts is wrong or misleading which I been seeing different conditions on surface daily against what the charts showing HP every day.

No, there is a trough to the south of the UK on that run. The charts are neither wrong or misleading (although of course they may not verify). High pressure by itself in a location close to the U.K. does not necessarily mean dry, hot and sunny weather in summer, as much as many of us would like it to. 

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No, there is a trough to the south of the UK on that run. The charts are neither wrong or misleading (although of course they may not verify). High pressure by itself in a location close to the U.K. does not necessarily mean dry, hot and sunny weather in summer, as much as many of us would like it to. 

Still they are wrong and misleading to show no clear LP cell over the channel like the channel lows does.  They need to take down the fake HP charts and put LP clearly shown.  That set-up before always deliver sunny warm to hot weather days nationwide.

 

Still they are wrong and misleading to show no clear LP cell over the channel like the channel lows does.  They need to take down the fake HP charts and put LP clearly shown.  That set-up before always deliver sunny warm to hot weather days nationwide.

They have apologised for the trough which may have breached summer weather guidelines. However, they would like to reiterate that they have full confidence in the summer so far, and now consider the matter closed. 

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Still the by 168 but finally starting to fade?

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They have apologised for the trough which may have breached summer weather guidelines. However, they would like to reiterate that they have full confidence in the summer so far, and now consider the matter closed. 

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They have apologised for the trough which may have breached summer weather guidelines. However, they would like to reiterate that they have full confidence in the summer so far, and now consider the matter closed. 

😜😜👍👍😀😀

That low coming from se needs careful watching extremely unstable s/e shown by ecm Tuesday and Friday very interesting charts from 12z ecm

http://wxcharts.com/?panel=default&model=ecmwf,ecmwf,ecmwf,ecmwf&region=eng&chart=overview,850temp,wind10mkph,snowdepth&run=12&step=084&plottype=10&lat=49.887&lon=-4.138&skewtstep=0