doctormog
23 January 2021 08:45:38

Conditions are now easily cold enough for snow up here over the next few days...



Gusty
23 January 2021 08:50:55

Things must be bad if you're posting in here Doc. 


Question..Have you had any snowfall in Aberdeen this winter or has it been a complete cold rainfest ? 


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doctormog
23 January 2021 08:55:56

Originally Posted by: Gusty 


Things must be bad if you're posting in here Doc. 


Question..Have you had any snowfall in Aberdeen this winter or has it been a complete cold rainfest ? 



We have had a couple of days (with maybe one or two cm), which is certainly better than nothing but the lack of snow given the persistent cold means that dry or cold rain have been the dominant features. I can understand not having snow in persistently mild winters but when it is persistently cold (below average in midwinter in NE Scotland) not having snow is irritating. 


Hope you get a good covering in your locality in the next couple of days. 


edit: It is a lovely clear, calm, dry and frosty morning this morning. So it is not unpleasant, just not very interesting (a bit like N Edinburgh but without the snow. )


Gusty
23 January 2021 09:03:13

Originally Posted by: doctormog 


 


We have had a couple of days (with maybe one or two cm), which is certainly better than nothing but the lack of snow given the persistent cold means that dry or cold rain have been the dominant features. I can understand not having snow in persistently mild winters but when it is persistently cold (below average in midwinter in NE Scotland) not having snow is irritating. 


Hope you get a good covering in your locality in the next couple of days. 


edit: It is a lovely clear, calm, dry and frosty morning this morning. So it is not unpleasant, just not very interesting (a bit like N Edinburgh but without the snow. )



Thanks. I can sympathise. The pain here is still real from our 3 day NE'ly rain streamer from earlier in the month. You are experiencing a similar pain but on an extended level. 


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Whether Idle
23 January 2021 09:06:41

Originally Posted by: Gusty 


 


Thanks. I can sympathise. The pain here is still real from our 3 day NE'ly rain streamer from earlier in the month. You are experiencing a similar pain but on an extended level. 



Yes, that was a dreadful experience.  Not only bathing in 3 - 4c and heavy rain for 3 days, but knowing in years past the snow levels would have been off the scale, was a kick in the teeth.


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richardabdn
23 January 2021 09:14:11

Very mild winters used to produce more snow than the totally worthless dustings we've had this winter. e.g. 1997/98. Second mildest winter on record but mid-January saw a heavy snowfall that was bad enough to close the airport. Better than anything in the past 8  years 


Even the astoundingly mild February 1998 which had an average low of 5C and average high of 11C was snowier than this poxy winter and the majority of winter months since February 2013. 


It doesn't matter how cold it is. Average, mild or cold there's next to snow. Inland Aberdeenshire, 30 miles from the coast, getting less snow than the likes of Edinburgh and Manchester is just mind-bogglingly awful and there is no satisfactory explanation for it.


Today has brought yet another kick in the teeth. Forecast min of -5C but only managed -1.7C. I really have had it with this horriific winter and the prospect of another 5 weeks of this is an ordeal that no-one should have to endure.


We managed one proper cold night this winter on 9th January when it dropped to -5.7C - the only night that has got as low as -3C. Even last winter with its surreal lack of cold got down to -3C twice plus another night at -2.9C. 


In the two weeks since that cold night the lowest it's got has been -1.8C. Just pathetic - I have recorded lower in May and it hasn't got any higher than 7.8C either in the past 5 weeks. So just unpleasantly chilly all the time but delivering next to nothing in terms of proper cold and snow. Horrible, horrible winter 


 


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23 January 2021 10:08:50

Originally Posted by: howham 


Do you think there are any niche weather fanatics who like cold rain?  They would be in Nirvana here this winter...



Any of those mythical cold rain fanatics would be in Nirvana down here, as well.


 


Originally Posted by: fairweather 


Come on - you're a Scot. Can't you cut the grains in half and make it go twice as far? 




 


Originally Posted by: doctormog 


Congratulations on the first "next winter is over" post! 




 


Originally Posted by: fairweather 


It's not all bad news then 



  [See original context for full effect.]


 


Originally Posted by: doctormog 


 ...


 So it is not unpleasant, just not very interesting (a bit like N Edinburgh but without the snow. )




 


I've had a real laugh reading the last couple of pages of this thread. Thanks guys.


Or maybe I'm just going slowly batty thanks to too many months of solitary confinement a.k.a. lockdown.


 


 


Oh yes, about the weather.... nice day today, perhaps I might see some snow tomorrow.


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23 January 2021 11:51:55
forgot to say, the terms ‘JFF, FI and Pub run’ irritate me also.
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Saint Snow
23 January 2021 12:04:07

Originally Posted by: dagspot 

forgot to say, the terms ‘JFF, FI and Pub run’ irritate me also.


 


And yet, all three are in the TWO Forum DNA



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Zubzero
23 January 2021 12:20:11

Looking very likely that I will miss out on the latest snow events yet again 😴😴

Shropshire
23 January 2021 12:57:14

Snowiest winter here since 95/96. Snow was deeper in that winter and it was colder but there has been more incidences of snow falling than in that winter. Obviously that says more about the last 25 years than anything else, but notable nonetheless.


 


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Saint Snow
23 January 2021 13:05:24

Originally Posted by: Shropshire 


Snowiest winter here since 95/96. Snow was deeper in that winter and it was colder but there has been more incidences of snow falling than in that winter. Obviously that says more about the last 25 years than anything else, but notable nonetheless.


 



 


Doesn't even make the top 5 here (in the last 25 years) 


Three snow events (plus a couple of dusting), yet none more than 3cm.


 



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Whether Idle
23 January 2021 13:12:19

Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 


 


 


Doesn't even make the top 5 here (in the last 25 years) 


Three snow events (plus a couple of dusting), yet none more than 3cm.


 



With 2cms of snow for one hour last week out in the hills behind the town, this winter is already the best of the last 3! And the second best in the past 8 years!


A pathetically low baseline has been established locally as this coastal location is somewhat of a 'belle-weather' for where more inland locales will surely follow.


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Retron
23 January 2021 14:07:22

Originally Posted by: Whether Idle 


A pathetically low baseline has been established locally as this coastal location is somewhat of a 'belle-weather' for where more inland locales will surely follow.



There was a bit of slush here last week, so that instantly makes the winter better than such years as 1997-98. That said, 2018 was a reminder here of what we'd lost since the 90s: powder snow, -2 as a high, drifts that persisted for a couple of weeks in the hedgerows. And that was from just a brief nibble of a proper easterly, just a couple of days' worth before it was swept away.


One day we will have a proper easterly again, something which was common in the 80s somewhat less so in the 90s. One day...


(The last hope I have is that the two reversals, soon to be a third, will finally inflate that high to the NE. And that this time there will be cold enough air involved!)


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doctormog
23 January 2021 14:56:39

There may be no snow here at all but the ground is frozen solid and the light winds and sunshine make for a pleasant walk


 


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Tim A
23 January 2021 15:10:16

Originally Posted by: Shropshire 


Snowiest winter here since 95/96. Snow was deeper in that winter and it was colder but there has been more incidences of snow falling than in that winter. Obviously that says more about the last 25 years than anything else, but notable nonetheless.


 



Your optimism in recent weeks has been well placed then. As I said last week here it has been decent but not as good as 01/02, 09/10, 10/11 , 12/13  17/18 yet.  But only half way through so could turn into something special. 


 


Has the SSW delivered? Well the weather has been strange and we have had four decent ( two amazing) snowfalls with NE winds or a NE undercut along with near misses and many dustings/snow falling.


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Joe Bloggs
23 January 2021 15:14:09

Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 


 


 


Doesn't even make the top 5 here (in the last 25 years) 


Three snow events (plus a couple of dusting), yet none more than 3cm.


 



After today, I would definitely categorise this one as a snowy winter. 


We’ve had six separate falls now which is practically unheard of in Manchester.


It will be upgraded to “very snowy” if we receive a fall of 10cm or more, or have less thawing through the day. 



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Ally Pally Snowman
23 January 2021 15:20:40

NW peeps please stop trolling the moaning thread. I've had 1cm of snow which was washed away within a couple of hours. And that's it. Looks like I will be to far north for tmrw.  It's been a shite winter so far here. 0/10.


 


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Joe Bloggs
23 January 2021 15:25:12

Originally Posted by: Ally Pally Snowman 


NW peeps please stop trolling the moaning thread. I've had 1cm of snow which was washed away within a couple of hours. And that's it. Looks like I will be to far north for tmrw.  It's been a shite winter so far here. 0/10.


 



To be fair, Saint has been moaning and he is very much in the NW. He has far higher standards than me though. 😀😀😀


Technically you are allowed to gloat in here. 


Bear in mind that often it’s really, really crap here for snow. When a sliding low moves SE across the country and everywhere is buried all we ever get is snizzle. 


It could well be the case that in February the tables are turned. Once the winds turn to the east, often that’s curtains for us here. 



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Ally Pally Snowman
23 January 2021 15:33:58

Originally Posted by: Joe Bloggs 


 


To be fair, Saint has been moaning and he is very much in the NW. He has far higher standards than me though. 😀😀😀


Technically you are allowed to gloat in here. 


Bear in mind that often it’s really, really crap here for snow. When a sliding low moves SE across the country and everywhere is buried all we ever get is snizzle. 


It could well be the case that in February the tables are turned. Once the winds turn to the east, often that’s curtains for us here. 



 


It did also snow on Christmas day here a freak 10 min shower but still pretty magical.  But I just want one decent 5cm fall to get the sledge out build a snowman with the kids etc . Basically scratch that snow itch. Last decent snow here was March 2018.


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