Do you think this set-up since Xmas is far worse than zonal weather?  There water leaking though the chimney down to the empty fire place base which never happen before on zonal rain events just now for a week since daily cold rain had might effected it.  Also haven't been cold enough and lowest was -3C compare to -5 to -10C in between zonal breaks from northerly blasts and some dry cold to mild breaks. i never had a week of dry weather for a long time now.

Not since mid October here.

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I’ve lost count of how many times I have seen the snow symbol on the weather app this winter. But every time it has turned to rain as the time approached. Latest one is showing for next Saturday. 

The models need to be reprogrammed to take the UK snow shield into account :)

Or the apps. They are rubbish, I ignore them.

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So on reflection of this winter so far, if I were to informally rank the winters of the 21st century for snow/wintry weather:

2010/11, 2012/13 and 2009/10 would be top followed by 2017/18 and 2000/1 Then 2020/21 probably slightly above 2004/5.

So 6th best this century so far with time to go. Main reason is two significant/deep/distruptive snowfalls that have been followed by freezing ice days, alongside a few smaller more usual winter snowfalls, which also hung around for a bit in a sustained period of below average temps. Been some snow to look at outside even if sometimes just patches from Dec 29th onwards.

Plenty of time left for this winter to rise through the ranks too.

Wrong thread! Gloating thread is elsewhere 

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I plan to install largest Log cabin this Spring at the back garden facing the sun all the time so I can enjoy the warm to hot inside once again and same time to ruin my business. 

 

That might not be the best idea...

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That might not be the best idea...

Could be true?

R.

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Wrong thread! Gloating thread is elsewhere 

Well to add a moan, my bins have not been collected and several deliveries , including a perishable food box due yesterday have not arrived! 

 

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After Last weeks heaviest snowfall in Madrid ever and yesterday's snow in Amsterdam, Paris, Brussels, Nantes etc etc today Athens, Greece saw a flurry of snow this morning (not unusual). Also my friends in Istanbul said there could be snow tomorrow and their local forecasts say up to 10cms. That is rare.

Oymyakon Siberia has seen some exceptionally cold weather with temperatures down to -55c. There has been snow in Algeria and Sahara desert as well as parts of Saudi Arabia too. Moscow had a high of -20c today which is the coldest daytime max for several winters.

My girlfriend is from Pitesti in Romania and they have had 3 snowfalls of 2-4" of snow over the past week and now have almost 1ft of lying powdery snow and this week the temperature is not expected to get above -3c by day and temperatures falling to -18c by night time. This would make it the coldest weather they have experienced since the winter of 2011/2012.

There has has also been record breaking amount of snow in Japan (for a while now) and Beijing recorded it's coldest temperature ever a few days ago down to -19.3c.

So my point is that there is cold weather and snow around but seems to miss the UK.
My rant is simple, given all the above - back closer to home we have a week of unsettled weather and showers of rain followed by drizzly showers clearer but overcast skies and little if any frost - YUCK! Abysmal.

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Last weeks heaviest snowfall in Madrid ever and yesterday's snow in Amsterdam, Paris, Brussels Nantes etc etc today Athens, Greece saw a flurry of snow this morning (not unusual). Also my friends in Istanbul said there could be snow tomorrow and their local forecasts say up to 10cms. That is rare.

Oymyakon Siberia has seen some exceptionally cold weather with temperatures down to -55c. There has been snow in Algeria and Sahara desert as well as parts of Saudi Arabia too. Moscow had a high of -20c today which is the coldest daytime max for several winters.

My girlfriend is from Pitesti in Romania and they have had 3 snowfalls of 2-4" of snow over the past week and now have almost 1ft of lying powdery snow and this week the temperature is not expected to get above -3c by day and temperatures falling to -18c by night time. This would make it the coldest weather they have experienced since the winter of 2011/2012.

There has has also been record breaking amount of snow in Japan (for a while now) and Beijing recorded it's coldest temperature ever a few days ago down to -19.3c.

So my point is that there is cold weather and snow around but seems to miss the UK.
My rant is simple, given all the above - back closer to home we have a week of unsettled weather and showers of rain followed by drizzly showers clearer but overcast skies and little if any frost - YUCK! Abysmal.

Anywhere you live abroad worth investing a good weather station since they have interesting weather events. I stopped recording on 31st Dec 2012 when i finally switched off the WS2500 console and took it to the recycling centre for electronics recycling.  I only have the Zeal Max and Min thermometer now sitting in the living room and only take outside for heatwaves or when nights go below -10C and back inside after done with it.  Longest I kept it outside was from 1st June to 3rd August 2018 when we finally left West Ewell and stay in Letchworth and my brother garden was west side so hard to record temps as there no shade anywhere for correct reading but it was hot  for a while before we lost the summer for good in rest of August.

 

Well to add a moan, my bins have not been collected and several deliveries , including a perishable food box due yesterday have not arrived! 

 

Mine have  (gloat) 

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I was pleased with the forecast for the upcoming week I just watched as it looked less wet in the South than I had expected. A relief as we have had double the rainfall since October compared to last year which was supposed to be a wet winter! This has been worse though because as well as being wetter it has been duller and  colder. We have had 0.5mm of snow for 30 mins this winter which is a bonus on the previous three so as to not be too negative!

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I was pleased with the forecast for the upcoming week I just watched as it looked less wet in the South than I had expected. A relief as we have had double the rainfall since October compared to last year which was supposed to be a wet winter! This has been worse though because as well as being wetter it has been duller and  colder. We have had 0.5mm of snow for 30 mins this winter which is a bonus on the previous three so as to not be too negative!

No such thing as too negative these days. There is nothing to be positive about any more. Not ever 

Raining yet again today and more wrist-slittingly awful horror to come over the next week.

The only point of interest here would be to guess the date on which the rainfall total for this catastrophically awful season will surpass 2013/14's ridiculous total 

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Well to add a moan, my bins have not been collected and several deliveries , including a perishable food box due yesterday have not arrived! 

 

 

On 28th Dec, we had 2-3cm of snow. Some parts of 'Tellins got up to 5cm.

On the 30th, St Helens Council issued an email to residents saying that due to the severe weather, refuse and recycling collection services were experiencing problems and collections would be delayed or postponed until the following week. 

The service is outsourced (has to be by law) so it's not the Council's fault. I know from experience that the workers for the private company need only the barest of excuses not to collect. 

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Looking like a complete deluge coming for the Greater Manchester area this week. The Met Office have me under an amber warning, with rain non-stop from 17:00 on Monday to the early hours of Thursday. Tuesday and Wednesday look particularly concerning...

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On 28th Dec, we had 2-3cm of snow. Some parts of 'Tellins got up to 5cm.

On the 30th, St Helens Council issued an email to residents saying that due to the severe weather, refuse and recycling collection services were experiencing problems and collections would be delayed or postponed until the following week. 

The service is outsourced (has to be by law) so it's not the Council's fault. I know from experience that the workers for the private company need only the barest of excuses not to collect. 

Did they turn up in the end of did you have to wait until the next scheduled collection? I am hopeful ours will be picked up tomorrow or Tuesday. All will be forgiven if so as there is no way they could have got down our road Friday morning, even the minor main roads were almost impassible then. The priority Royal Mail postbox on the main road wasn't collected Thursday evening either , not sure about Friday but I post a weekly Covid test Thursday/Friday each week and this is the first time the results haven't been back by Sunday.

 

Amber warning for here too Tuesday, not the type of amber warning we want or is particularly exciting. As is the nature of rain warnings , it will just rain a lot and I won't notice anything worrying or spectacular, obviously if you live in a flood prone area it could be disastrous though.

 

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Well it looks like this 'cold spell' is over for the foreseeable and what a load of tosh it was imby, not even a smattering of snow on the ground and only a few wet flakes in the incessant cold rain which lasted 26hrs at one point, when you can't even get snow with some off the best charts there's been in years with High blocking from northern Scandinavia all the way to Scotland in early Jan then there's little chance of seeing any ever again in the low lying areas of eastern and southern England, those living 500ft asl have had a stellar period of winter with heavy falls and ice days but the rest of us are left bereft and bemused, even though we had a few good frosts as soon as any ppn arrived the temp went up and it was just wet...even at 1degC...!!! I thought last year was bad enough being the first snowless winter i've ever experienced but with Highs to our south perpetuating the zonal train all winter that was to be expected however this was worse as all the elements were there but never produced...least i won't be model/street lamp watching for a while...!!

Did they turn up in the end of did you have to wait until the next scheduled collection? I am hopeful ours will be picked up tomorrow or Tuesday. 

 

We only have 2-weekly collections, and were only due to have the bin collected the following Tuesday anyway (and it was) 

 

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Well it looks like this 'cold spell' is over for the foreseeable and what a load of tosh it was imby, not even a smattering of snow on the ground and only a few wet flakes in the incessant cold rain which lasted 26hrs at one point, when you can't even get snow with some off the best charts there's been in years with High blocking from northern Scandinavia all the way to Scotland in early Jan then there's little chance of seeing any ever again in the low lying areas of eastern and southern England, those living 500ft asl have had a stellar period of winter with heavy falls and ice days but the rest of us are left bereft and bemused, even though we had a few good frosts as soon as any ppn arrived the temp went up and it was just wet...even at 1degC...!!! I thought last year was bad enough being the first snowless winter i've ever experienced but with Highs to our south perpetuating the zonal train all winter that was to be expected however this was worse as all the elements were there but never produced...least i won't be model/street lamp watching for a while...!!

I thought Yorkshire did well out of Or am I am I thinking of Leeds?

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Looking like a complete deluge coming for the Greater Manchester area this week. The Met Office have me under an amber warning, with rain non-stop from 17:00 on Monday to the early hours of Thursday. Tuesday and Wednesday look particularly concerning...

And of course this being for rain they will get the forecast spot on. Although there will probably be some complaints that a red warning was needed. There will be snow melt to contend with in some areas too, Hebden Bridge might cop it again, that town seems to get more than it's fair share of flood events.

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Utterly fed up now. No proper cold to get excited about.

I’m sick of ice cold RAIN.

IPhone app keeps showing snow symbols and taking them away at the last minute.

Next year we need to ban the word SSW. Seems that we pin our hopes on it and in the south at least it delivers nothing.

I too would just rather some warmth if we can’t get cold.

It looks like flooding will be making the headlines this week.

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Utterly fed up now. No proper cold to get excited about.

I’m sick of ice cold RAIN.

IPhone app keeps showing snow symbols and taking them away at the last minute.

Next year we need to ban the word SSW. Seems that we pin our hopes on it and in the south at least it delivers nothing.

I too would just rather some warmth if we can’t get cold.

It looks like flooding will be making the headlines this week.

I agree - I think this is a lesson learnt, however after the BFTE of Feb/March 2018 I am sure you can understand why we were hoping that this SSW would deliver, especially after last winter's failure of any SSW. 

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