Bertwhistle
08 August 2020 17:58:30

And now the GEFS looks far more rewarding in the short to mid-term; Moomin- don't look at the Control option! 


 


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Ally Pally Snowman
08 August 2020 18:01:04

 


Yes indeed very good set. Many keep significant warmth all the way.



 


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Rob K
08 August 2020 18:01:13
Amazing how the GEFS has reverted to a carbon copy of two days ago with a flatline 19C until the 13th, after totally dropping it yesterday.
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Brian Gaze
08 August 2020 18:07:38
Yes. Looks like it could go on and on.
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Heavy Weather 2013
08 August 2020 18:07:39

Originally Posted by: Rob K 

Amazing how the GEFS has reverted to a carbon copy of two days ago with a flatline 19C until the 13th, after totally dropping it yesterday.


GFS has been awful 


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Heavy Weather 2013
08 August 2020 18:11:32
I think tomorrow will be hottest day of this spell I’m going for 37.5C
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Ally Pally Snowman
08 August 2020 18:17:42

Originally Posted by: Heavy Weather 2013 

I think tomorrow will be hottest day of this spell I’m going for 37.5C


 


I'm going for Monday depending on cloud over of course but UKMO has 20c 850s in the SE. Could squeeze 38c


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Ally Pally Snowman
08 August 2020 18:19:26

In fact UKMO is a very hot run and keeps 18c 850s until Thursday.


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Heavy Weather 2013
08 August 2020 18:19:30

Originally Posted by: Ally Pally Snowman 


 


 


I'm going for Monday depending on cloud over of course but UKMO has 20c 850s in the SE. Could squeeze 38c



Oh excrement. 


So many potential days.


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ballamar
08 August 2020 18:56:57
Wasn’t that hot ECM dismissed a little while ago - this is a cracking spell of weather and the potential for some excitement from Monday with some decent CAPE values.
JACKO4EVER
09 August 2020 05:18:43

Originally Posted by: Downpour 

TMS said it was 32c in the Vale of Belvoir yesterday (Aggers’ wife was hitting the rose). Surely shume mistake??


yep it was about right. Clouded up a bit in the afternoon and a very uncomfortable close evening followed. 

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09 August 2020 07:16:17

No jetstream for UK until Thu 13th when a flow from NW wraps itself round the UK and develops into a small cut-off low over the Chammel Sun 16th After that dissipates, another cut-off appears on the Atlantic Wed 19th and trundles S then E to to be in the Channel Sat 22nd followed by yet another on Tue 25th. Looks as if it could be stormy for the S for a week or so.10-day pptn is wet for all inland UK.


GFS - Broad band of HP from Azores to Norway but UKoccupying a col in the middle of this to Tue 18th (sometimes the col almost merits the title of a proper LP e.g. Fri 14th). A new LP appears on the Atlantic Wed 19th and moves S & E to push one centre S of the UK Sun 23rd while leaving a twin centre off SW Ireland.


GEFS - In the S, temps back to normal with a bump from Thu 13th, and the mean then stays near the norm but with a good spread of forecasts from the various runs. The control is a notable cold outlier. Rain from time to time; one very big spike in the op Sat 15th. In Scotland and the N the temp declines more gradually to the norm; rather more rain about though Scotland and NE England get a dry spell for a few days around Sun 16th


ECM - shows the same twin centre HP and col; LP develops a day earlier, on Tue 18th, but not as deep as GFS.


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Ally Pally Snowman
09 August 2020 10:30:35

Stunning GFS 6z keeps the heat going and going. So different to the ECM though.


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Ally Pally Snowman
09 August 2020 17:05:25

GFS 12z has 36c for Wednesday that's very unusual.


Bishop's Stortford 85m ASL.
09 August 2020 17:16:37

Originally Posted by: Ally Pally Snowman 


GFS 12z has 36c for Wednesday that's very unusual.



There are some very high numbers appearing in the models for Wednesday.


The NMM 5 degree model only goes out to 72hrs so currently stops at 12z on Wednesday. It already has temperatures up to 36C at this time (today it predicted 33C as the max close to Herstmonceux)


http://modeles16.meteociel.fr/modeles/wrfnmm/runs/2020080912/nmmuk-0-72-0.png?09-17

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09 August 2020 20:19:20
The next big difference in models is from next weekend onwards. GFS and to some extent GEM builds high pressure back from the East. ECM gives us a cool plunge from the NW. been the same for the last 3 runs now.

I’d prefer if ECM was the one with the warmer outcome to be honest.
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Rob K
09 August 2020 20:55:24

Originally Posted by: TimS 

The next big difference in models is from next weekend onwards. GFS and to some extent GEM builds high pressure back from the East. ECM gives us a cool plunge from the NW. been the same for the last 3 runs now.

I’d prefer if ECM was the one with the warmer outcome to be honest.


Ugh. GFS and ECM couldn't be more different around Aug 18/19. GFS has been consistently showing high pressure across the north of the country but ECM goes for a mega trough with northwesterlies to wash out my holiday.


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TimS
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09 August 2020 22:32:22

Originally Posted by: Rob K 


 


Ugh. GFS and ECM couldn't be more different around Aug 18/19. GFS has been consistently showing high pressure across the north of the country but ECM goes for a mega trough with northwesterlies to wash out my holiday.



GFS 18z is more troughy. The Northern high pressure handshake has disappeared and we’re into August 2004 style slow warm breakdown. Decent temps until the 18th though.


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10 August 2020 05:22:17

Wednesday still showing widespread notable heat on the 00z GFS.



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TimS
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10 August 2020 07:08:46
This morning continues the GFS/ECM stand off from the weekend and next week.

UKMO looks tempted to join ECM. GEM squarely on team America. ICON is on the fence at 180hrs.
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