Arcus
Wednesday, January 15, 2020 8:24:35 PM
Could be a Top 5 UK pressure reading into next week. 1053.6 is UK record I believe?
Ben,
Nr. Easingwold, North Yorkshire
30m asl
Whether Idle
Wednesday, January 15, 2020 8:36:01 PM

Originally Posted by: Arcus 

Could be a Top 5 UK pressure reading into next week. 1053.6 is UK record I believe?


I hope so.  I really like MLB in winter if its centred over the UK.  Proper cold winter highs are great.  Unfortunately this HP looks to drag in Atlantic airs post Tuesday, which is a pity.


Dover, 5m asl. Half a mile from the south coast.
doctormog
Wednesday, January 15, 2020 8:40:20 PM

Originally Posted by: Arcus 

Could be a Top 5 UK pressure reading into next week. 1053.6 is UK record I believe?


1054.7mb in my garden back in 1902. That was a good day, although I remember Richard complaining about nondescript vile anticyclonic muck. Anyway that was back in 1902 when we got real weather. 


NMA
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Wednesday, January 15, 2020 8:58:56 PM

Originally Posted by: doctormog 


 


1054.7mb in my garden back in 1902. That was a good day, although I remember Richard complaining about nondescript vile anticyclonic muck. Anyway that was back in 1902 when we got real weather. 



You are doing well both of you. What's the secret?


Nick


Vale of the Great Dairies
South Dorset
Elevation 60m 197ft
doctormog
Wednesday, January 15, 2020 9:05:07 PM

Originally Posted by: NMA 


 


You are doing well both of you. What's the secret?


Nick



I believe we only get one year of weather every decade or so which may account for it. 


 


 


 


 


 


 



Arcus
Wednesday, January 15, 2020 9:10:45 PM

Originally Posted by: doctormog 


 


1054.7mb in my garden back in 1902. That was a good day, although I remember Richard complaining about nondescript vile anticyclonic muck. Anyway that was back in 1902 when we got real weather. 



Oh you are a card Mr. D.


Ben,
Nr. Easingwold, North Yorkshire
30m asl
ballamar
Wednesday, January 15, 2020 9:22:39 PM
ENS more interesting few wintry options about awaiting a decent pub run which have been missing so far
White Meadows
Wednesday, January 15, 2020 10:28:09 PM

Originally Posted by: ballamar 

ENS more interesting few wintry options about awaiting a decent pub run which have been missing so far

A gift from the North - 


https://www.wetterzentrale.de/de/topkarten.php?map=1&model=gfs&var=1&run=18&time=201&lid=OP&h=0&mv=0&tr=3#mapref


 

Ally Pally Snowman
Wednesday, January 15, 2020 10:29:18 PM

Originally Posted by: ballamar 

ENS more interesting few wintry options about awaiting a decent pub run which have been missing so far


 


Looks like you've got your wish. Stunning pub run incoming with brutal northerly.


Bishop's Stortford 85m ASL.
Ally Pally Snowman
Wednesday, January 15, 2020 10:35:49 PM

GFS 18z = best run of the winter by miles


 


Bishop's Stortford 85m ASL.
Whether Idle
Wednesday, January 15, 2020 10:37:46 PM

Originally Posted by: Ally Pally Snowman 


GFS 18z = best run of the winter by miles


 



Yes, shows whats possible iF the high wobbles into the west.  Probably a bit of an outlier...


Dover, 5m asl. Half a mile from the south coast.
idj20
Wednesday, January 15, 2020 10:40:11 PM

Hang on in there, mid-Atlantic "omega" type high. 


Folkestone Harbour. 
Whether Idle
Wednesday, January 15, 2020 10:51:02 PM

Originally Posted by: idj20 


Hang on in there, mid-Atlantic "omega" type high. 



Transient ridge there Ian!  Still, a fun little FI  northerly that.  Gone on the 0z! 


...and back to square one in deepest Lala land.


Dover, 5m asl. Half a mile from the south coast.
ballamar
Wednesday, January 15, 2020 11:11:14 PM

Originally Posted by: Whether Idle 


 


Transient ridge there Ian!  Still, a fun little FI  northerly that.  Gone on the 0z! 


...and back to square one in deepest Lala land.



After that Northerly will be keeping an eye on the NE developments

ballamar
Wednesday, January 15, 2020 11:53:16 PM
ENS support potent northerly, which means bugger all! Cross model 12 hrs out is what’s needed
Argyle77
Thursday, January 16, 2020 2:12:44 AM
Finally this winter is about get going. Took your time weather gods
DEW
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Thursday, January 16, 2020 6:49:29 AM

Put the optimism on hold! More straws to clutch at but cross-model agreement in a reliable time frame is still needed.


GFS as yesterday; brings a trough through tonight then big rise of pressure, 1040-1045mb Sun - Wed 22nd over UK with strong southerlies over Ireland, then moves off into Atlantic by Sat 25th with northerlies down the N Sea into Denmark and Germany but just missing us (and if my experience of GFS northerlies is anything to go by, more likely to shift to the east than not). Generally W or SW-ly flow then resumes through to Fri 1st Feb


ECM takes the high pressure westwards a little earlier and brings in a NW-ly on Sat 25th, cold for Scotland but not making it all the way south


GEFS ensembles stay together for cold 18-21 Jan, then mild to ca 25th Jan after which agreement breaks up - the mean is close to seasonal average but a few very cold runs, notably the Op  Run EDIT, sorry, Control Run at -10 for a few days. Dry after today until 25th, not much after that either. Pattern much the same UK-wide, though N Scotland has more rain/snow after 25th.


A quick scan of the T+300-384 postage stamps shows a less persistent mild pattern than so far this winter, but cold air usually W or E of us


 


Yesterday's kind remarks appreciated


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Chichester 12m asl
Maunder Minimum
Thursday, January 16, 2020 7:40:37 AM

In Copenhagen at the moment - yesterday, Denmark recorded its warmest January temperature on record - 11.2 degrees. It is unremittingly warm, grey and wet here - just continuous gloom and the Danes are sick of it - never known a winter like it.


This foulest of foul winters continues as expected. This winter does not disappoint in being the worst of the worst. As I stated at the end of December, once this pattern sets in at the start of January, it persists.


How I wish for a January to be a winter month for a change!


New world order coming.
Chunky Pea
Thursday, January 16, 2020 7:50:20 AM

Originally Posted by: Maunder Minimum 


How I wish for a January to be a winter month for a change!



Whether it is down to a distorted view of the past or actually sound observation, but I find that March tends to be more of a 'winter month' in terms of cold and frost/snow potential than January. To observe snow in January seems an almost impossible task! 


Current Conditions
https://t.ly/MEYqg 


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Brian Gaze
Thursday, January 16, 2020 7:50:37 AM

Not seeing much to get excited by from a cold perspective. The GEFS control run is about the coldest on show this morning. Can be stepped through here:


https://www.theweatheroutlook.com/twodata/gefs.aspx?run=na&charthour=180&chartname=850tmp&chartregion=na-region&p=0&charttag=MSLP%20850hPa%20C


 


 


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