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doctormog
04 March 2021 11:44:01


 


Yes it's not showing LIVE any  more.


A read on Iceland's Laki eruption and its effects around the world with first hand accounts though perhaps not for the the faint hearted.


https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/22488007-island-on-fire


And heading off to Italy for a fictional account of another famous eruption:


https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/880.Pompeii


You can really feel you are there on the ground as well.


Nick


Originally Posted by: NMA 


 I really enjoyed that book.


 


I think any eruption on Iceland will be relatively small and of a rifting nature with lava flows rather than anything dramatic or disruptive. Hopefully something photogenic too (if it happens). 


Saint Snow
04 March 2021 11:56:00


 


Yes it's not showing LIVE any  more.


A read on Iceland's Laki eruption and its effects around the world with first hand accounts though perhaps not for the the faint hearted.


https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/22488007-island-on-fire


And heading off to Italy for a fictional account of another famous eruption:


https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/880.Pompeii


You can really feel you are there on the ground as well.


Nick


Originally Posted by: NMA 


 


I went to Pompeii in 2019; the scale of it was impressive and the place atmospheric.


 


Laki is fascinating, with the millions of tons of sulphur dioxide and hydrogen flouride pumped into the atmosphere. In terms of the UK, summer 1783 had periods of intense heat, but also a lot of storms and some frosts. Winter 1783/4 was extremely cold and snowy. Effects were felt around the world, with millions of deaths estimated as a result (Africa, parts of Asia: drought & famine; Europe: sulphur dioxide poisoning, crop failure; Americas: extreme winter)


Whilst I don't think this potential eruption would be anything like as severe, given the way the past couple of years have gone, I wouldn't totally rule it out! And it'd be the last thing the world needed.



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The Beast from the East
04 March 2021 12:39:16


 


 


I went to Pompeii in 2019; the scale of it was impressive and the place atmospheric.


 


Laki is fascinating, with the millions of tons of sulphur dioxide and hydrogen flouride pumped into the atmosphere. In terms of the UK, summer 1783 had periods of intense heat, but also a lot of storms and some frosts. Winter 1783/4 was extremely cold and snowy. Effects were felt around the world, with millions of deaths estimated as a result (Africa, parts of Asia: drought & famine; Europe: sulphur dioxide poisoning, crop failure; Americas: extreme winter)


Whilst I don't think this potential eruption would be anything like as severe, given the way the past couple of years have gone, I wouldn't totally rule it out! And it'd be the last thing the world needed.


Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 


They showed 2012 on Channel 5 last night


Forgotten how awful it was


"We have some alternative facts for you"
Kelly-Ann Conway - special adviser to the President
Saint Snow
04 March 2021 12:41:09


 


They showed 2012 on Channel 5 last night


Forgotten how awful it was


Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 


 


Starts off quite well, goes rapidly downhill.



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doctormog
04 March 2021 12:50:50


 


Whilst I don't think this potential eruption would be anything like as severe, given the way the past couple of years have gone, I wouldn't totally rule it out! And it'd be the last thing the world needed.


Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 


I'll not mention that Mt Pinatubo has been raised to Level 1 alert then (although no eruption is imminent despite the increase in unrest). 


NMA
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04 March 2021 12:59:48


 


 I really enjoyed that book.


 


I think any eruption on Iceland will be relatively small and of a rifting nature with lava flows rather than anything dramatic or disruptive. Hopefully something photogenic too (if it happens). 


Originally Posted by: doctormog 


Funny that, as I think you might have been the one to get me to buy it in a previous instalment of one of TWO's volcanic discovery tours.


I went to Pompeii in 2019; the scale of it was impressive and the place atmospheric.


Yes Saint I bet you would have found Pompeii fascinating especially some of the err murals. Hedonistic perhaps.


I've got a lava bomb/blob and some sulphur  I brought back from the little volcano in the Vestmannaeyjar archipelago and my son has some bits of Etna that he brought back from a school trip. So I suppose Roger you could hold a bit of Italy and Iceland in one hand at the same time even if you couldn't take the tunnel.


 


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05 March 2021 08:51:45

I see Etna's gone from fire to ice overnight.


https://www.skylinewebcams.com/en/webcam/italia/sicilia/catania/vulcano-etna-sud.html


Nick


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05 March 2021 11:41:50


 


 I really enjoyed that book.


 


I think any eruption on Iceland will be relatively small and of a rifting nature with lava flows rather than anything dramatic or disruptive. Hopefully something photogenic too (if it happens). 


Originally Posted by: doctormog 


Laki in 1783 had a disastrous rifting eruption so is your comment based on current seismographic readings? I hope so.


This event is rated as 4 on the Volcanic Explosivity Index,[5] but the eight-month emission of sulfuric aerosols resulted in one of the most important climatic and socially repercussive events of the last millennium https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laki#1783_eruption 


I was much less impressed by Pompeii than by Herculaneum when we were last there, some 10 years back. A serious and efficient excavation and restoration job had been done in Herculaneum by an American foundation, but Pompeii was still taking the attitude that restoration consisted of putting up some scaffolding and 'Danger keep out' signs. I've since read that the Director of that time has been dismissed for incompetence and Mafia involvement, and that a new start was made in 2013 with the Italian Government taking a less laissez faire approach, so things may have improved.


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Saint Snow
05 March 2021 11:53:29

a new start was made in 2013 with the Italian Government taking a less laissez faire approach, so things may have improved.


Originally Posted by: DEW 


 


Didn't see much in the way of scaffolding and whilst sections of the city were still being excavated, the majority was excavated and open to explore, with many 'feature' parts detailed.


We went from a cruise ship, and only had 4 hours there, which IMO was way too short (but in the opinion of my wife and kids was well long enough!) and our guide, whilst undoubtedly knowledgeable, was aloof, impatient and at times downright rude. And we never got to go in the visitor centre where most of the 'bodies' are displayed.


I'd looked at options to organise the visit independently with a tour company, but in the end plumped for the easy choice of just booking the cruise tour (prices were pretty much the same)


With hindsight, I should have gone the independent route, and even considered Herculaneum.


 


 



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doctormog
05 March 2021 12:00:03


 


Laki in 1783 had a disastrous rifting eruption so is your comment based on current seismographic readings? I hope so.


This event is rated as 4 on the Volcanic Explosivity Index,[5] but the eight-month emission of sulfuric aerosols resulted in one of the most important climatic and socially repercussive events of the last millennium https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laki#1783_eruption 


I was much less impressed by Pompeii than by Herculaneum when we were last there, some 10 years back. A serious and efficient excavation and restoration job had been done in Herculaneum by an American foundation, but Pompeii was still taking the attitude that restoration consisted of putting up some scaffolding and 'Danger keep out' signs. I've since read that the Director of that time has been dismissed for incompetence and Mafia involvement, and that a new start was made in 2013 with the Italian Government taking a less laissez faire approach, so things may have improved.


Originally Posted by: DEW 


My comment is based on observations by volcanologists, the recent and current data and commentary from the Icelandic Met Office. It is not solely based on the fact that any eruption is likely to be a rifting episode. These things can always catch people by surprise, but the geology and history of the systems around that part of Iceland do not point towards a large eruption.


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05 March 2021 20:55:01


 


My comment is based on observations by volcanologists, the recent and current data and commentary from the Icelandic Met Office. It is not solely based on the fact that any eruption is likely to be a rifting episode. These things can always catch people by surprise, but the geology and history of the systems around that part of Iceland do not point towards a large eruption.


Originally Posted by: doctormog 


Thanks. Good news


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12 March 2021 08:22:44

Etna off again as I type this...


https://www.skylinewebcams.com/en/webcam/italia/sicilia/catania/vulcano-etna-sud.html


 


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doctormog
12 March 2021 08:42:02


Etna off again as I type this...


https://www.skylinewebcams.com/en/webcam/italia/sicilia/catania/vulcano-etna-sud.html


 


Originally Posted by: NMA 





Looking lively ( and yes this one is currently a live stream, but that may change https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5z5efIcMb8M 


NMA
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12 March 2021 09:00:55

Great images Michael. What a scorcher.


Thanks for that link (again). Live it is this time (for now)...


I wonder if the Iceland disturbances will amount to anything. Whilst I wait I've been watching for the past few evenings  the Valhalla Murders recently which have some spectacular volcanic landscapes mixed into the crimes.


https://decider.com/2020/03/13/the-valhalla-murders-netflix-stream-it-or-skip-it/


The Valhalla Murders (original title: Brot) is a fairly straightforward murder mystery series, created by Thordur Palsson, that could have been produced just about anywhere. However, we’re happy that it was produced in Iceland, because it gives us a chance to look at the fine scenery in and around Reykjavik, one of most surreal and beautiful cities on earth. Low buildings surrounded by black rock formations, cold weather that doesn’t seem to bother most of the residents, and a gritty underbelly that we never see when we look at news footage of the city.


Nick


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doctormog
12 March 2021 09:14:23


Great images Michael. What a scorcher.


Thanks for that link (again). Live it is this time (for now)...


I wonder if the Iceland disturbances will amount to anything. Whilst I wait I've been watching for the past few evenings  the Valhalla Murders recently which have some spectacular volcanic landscapes mixed into the crimes.


https://decider.com/2020/03/13/the-valhalla-murders-netflix-stream-it-or-skip-it/


The Valhalla Murders (original title: Brot) is a fairly straightforward murder mystery series, created by Thordur Palsson, that could have been produced just about anywhere. However, we’re happy that it was produced in Iceland, because it gives us a chance to look at the fine scenery in and around Reykjavik, one of most surreal and beautiful cities on earth. Low buildings surrounded by black rock formations, cold weather that doesn’t seem to bother most of the residents, and a gritty underbelly that we never see when we look at news footage of the city.


Nick


Originally Posted by: NMA 


The Valhalla Murders sounds like what I commit in Assassin's Creed occasionally. 


I have never been to Iceland but love to go and see the volcanic landscapes. On that subject the earthquake activity (probably associated with magmatic dyke activity) continues unabated with some very shallow quakes in the last couple of days. The activity also seems to be edging southwestwards in the last day or two, getting closer to the ocean. 


It will be very interesting to see how things proceed over the next few hours/days/weeks/months/years.


doctormog
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17 March 2021 09:44:34

A small update on the Iceland saga.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-56420607


Apologies if you've already watched it.


Nick


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doctormog
19 March 2021 21:55:32
From initial reports it appears that an eruption has started at Fagradalsfjall in SW Iceland. No more details yet.
Gandalf The White
19 March 2021 22:39:21

From initial reports it appears that an eruption has started at Fagradalsfjall in SW Iceland. No more details yet.

Originally Posted by: doctormog 


 


Red sky at night in this case seems unlikely to be a Shepherd's delight.


https://icelandmonitor.mbl.is/news/news/2021/03/19/eruption_has_started_in_fagradalsfjall/


 


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picturesareme
20 March 2021 02:01:38
First eruption in over 12,000 years is something quite fantastic.
doctormog
20 March 2021 06:15:35
https://www.facebook.com/RUVfrettir/videos/818464422213392 

Apparently, according to RUV (Icelandic news) the last series of eruptions on the peninsula finished around 800years ago (and lasted 290 years) and the last at this specific system/location was 6000 years ago:

The last eruption on the Reykjanes peninsula lasted for 30 years. It was also the final phase of an even longer volcanic eruption period on the Reykjanes peninsula, which lasted for 290 years. The last eruption was in Fagradalsfjall more than 6,000 years ago, when the Beinavörðu lava flowed.
The last eruption on the Reykjanes peninsula ended in the middle of the Sturlung Age, in 1240. There had been eruptions in the Reykjanes system since the year 1210, with several years breaks. Among them was an eruption that began in 1226, six years after Snorri Sturluson returned from Norway, and was probably the largest eruption in the cluster.”


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20 March 2021 06:29:22

It's reached the mainstream news this morning https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-56465393 


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Roger Parsons
20 March 2021 07:15:06


It's reached the mainstream news this morning https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-56465393 


Originally Posted by: DEW 


Just watched in on the news, DEW - impressive.


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