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tallyho_83
14 February 2019 16:56:22

Could be a record breaker and I believe we broke the April record with about 30c around mid April last year, so it’s certainly possible!    

Originally Posted by: Caz 

12z @ 240:

Never thought I would spend most of early Feb experiencing and posting GFS charts that show temperatures some 10c above average for the Uk! Most February we would be lucky to see temps of 10c but looks like we could see the teens for not just days but weeks!? If this materialises we could see temps of +18c by next Sunday. 

People in Southern California would have to come to the UK for warmth and sun!


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moomin75
14 February 2019 17:00:00

 

12z @ 240:

Never thought I would spend most of early Feb posting and experiencing GFS charts that show temperatures some 10c above average! If this materialises we could see temps of +18c by next Sunday. 

Originally Posted by: tallyho_83 

Brilliant isn't it? May as well embrace it and experience a potentially record breaking spell of weather.


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Caz
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14 February 2019 17:17:18

Brilliant isn't it? May as well embrace it and experience a potentially record breaking spell of weather.

Originally Posted by: moomin75 

Yes!  I’ll be on holiday from Monday and the weather always gets interesting when I go away.  At least our flight won’t be delayed due to snow this time!  


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JACKO4EVER
14 February 2019 17:17:33
Wow stunning output, some real warmth possible but where does FI begin? With cold weather this winter it seemed as though anything beyond 4 days out became a problem. Let’s see how the milder/ warm weather fares.
doctormog
14 February 2019 17:25:32
The mild weather is nice but the current lack of sunshine here is a bit depressing. Hopefully that will improve at some stage, as we are in a prime position for some notably mild temperatures in any sunshine. No doubt the sunshine will come with the colder upper air.

http://www.wetterzentrale.de/maps/GFSOPUK12_240_18.png 


sunny coast
14 February 2019 17:55:03
Im sure some local records may be broken but unlikely here on the south coast with a drift off a cold channel temperature peaked briefly at 10 today after a frost early this morning and another cold one on the cards tonight . Need to be a few miles inland for 12s and13s today
Gusty
14 February 2019 18:04:07

A real 'early in the year' bonus to be seeing such springlike charts in February. 

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glenogle
14 February 2019 18:39:40

The only ens run offering the prospect of snow before months end is Inverness where we hit 22 on Tuesday

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All the others show zilch - I know Aberdeen has 1 but that's out of 23, so we can discount that in all honesty

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Originally Posted by: Gavin D 

 

And that's because the point used for Inverness is circa 300/400m in elevation 😁

Ps Brian, don't alter it. It's very handy.


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springsunshine
14 February 2019 19:51:07

A real 'early in the year' bonus to be seeing such springlike charts in February. 

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Originally Posted by: Gusty 

An awesome chart and set up Hope it stays for the next 7 months.

Foghorn
14 February 2019 20:16:41
The above chart looks great if you live in the SE, but a howling gale in the north - no thankyou!
Hungry Tiger
14 February 2019 21:05:11

 

12z @ 240:

Never thought I would spend most of early Feb experiencing and posting GFS charts that show temperatures some 10c above average for the Uk! Most February we would be lucky to see temps of 10c but looks like we could see the teens for not just days but weeks!? If this materialises we could see temps of +18c by next Sunday. 

People in Southern California would have to come to the UK for warmth and sun!

Originally Posted by: tallyho_83 

Bring it on - to hell with the cold.

 


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Weathermac
14 February 2019 21:50:48

 

An awesome chart and set up Hope it stays for the next 7 months.

Originally Posted by: springsunshine 

We will end up paying for this warm spell it reminds me very much of 2007 and look how that summer panned out.

We may well even get a cold spell yet i wouldnt rule it out if the undulating moves we could end up in the freezer.

Caz
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15 February 2019 07:20:05

 

We will end up paying for this warm spell it reminds me very much of 2007 and look how that summer panned out.

We may well even get a cold spell yet i wouldnt rule it out if the undulating moves we could end up in the freezer.

Originally Posted by: Weathermac 

I wouldn’t rule out anything but neither would I bet on anything.  Wherever we can match current weather to a certain year, we’ll find a non-match for it.  The weather will do its thing and in the meantime I’m happy to watch what the models make of it!  


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Rob K
15 February 2019 07:26:31
I am very sceptical of the whole notion of “paying for” good weather with poor weather later. The law of averages is a fallacy, and in any case with weather the rule of persistence is more likely to apply - we see patterns locking in and repeating. My gut feeling (so OT here) is that we are heading for another fine summer. I just hope it can last into August for once!
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Sevendust
15 February 2019 07:35:22

I am very sceptical of the whole notion of “paying for” good weather with poor weather later. The law of averages is a fallacy, and in any case with weather the rule of persistence is more likely to apply - we see patterns locking in and repeating. My gut feeling (so OT here) is that we are heading for another fine summer. I just hope it can last into August for once!

Originally Posted by: Rob K 

Not be put too fine a point on it it's utter bxll. You can cite counter arguments in most scenarios that are proposed. Our climate simply isn't easy to read.

Gandalf The White
15 February 2019 07:43:54

I am very sceptical of the whole notion of “paying for” good weather with poor weather later. The law of averages is a fallacy, and in any case with weather the rule of persistence is more likely to apply - we see patterns locking in and repeating. My gut feeling (so OT here) is that we are heading for another fine summer. I just hope it can last into August for once!

Originally Posted by: Rob K 

Your ‘law of averages’ is actually our climatic norm: it must apply over the long term. That doesn’t preclude long periods of drought, high rainfall, warmth and cold but they must average out eventually.


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David M Porter
15 February 2019 08:31:54

 

Not be put too fine a point on it it's utter bxll. You can cite counter arguments in most scenarios that are proposed. Our climate simply isn't easy to read.

Originally Posted by: Sevendust 

Indeed. One only has to look at how hard it has been for any forecaster, even the pros, to accurately forecast the weather a week and more ahead during this winter to see this, which is something that has been much commented on in this thread and in the media thread in recent weeks.

As I mentioned the other day, we would have been better off IMO ignoring the models that go further than one week ahead this winter and simply concentrating on the UKMO op runs twice a day during this winter. It seems that those models that go further than a week ahead have had a really hard time of it this winter when it comes to accurately predicting what happens further ahead.


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some faraway beach
15 February 2019 09:33:00

 

Your ‘law of averages’ is actually our climatic norm: it must apply over the long term. That doesn’t preclude long periods of drought, high rainfall, warmth and cold but they must average out eventually.

Originally Posted by: Gandalf The White 

Your climatic norm refers to a period of decades at the least. Rob is talking about people citing a mythical law of averages when they're making a forecast for the next few months. Nothing at all to do with climate. 


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Well, two or three times a decade it does, anyway.

nsrobins
15 February 2019 10:39:08
Well ECM continues to project a higher latitude high D7-10 which is enough to tug drier colder air from the continent.

It may not be the long spell of springlike warmth into next week that some are ‘resigned’ to after all.


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tallyho_83
15 February 2019 11:20:00

 

Bring it on - to hell with the cold.

 

Originally Posted by: Hungry Tiger 

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Temps into upper teens!

17c over Cairngorms!


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tallyho_83
15 February 2019 12:10:53

Saytime maxes of -3c if P16 came about- Gosh imagine the shock?

Luckily it's FI and a cold outlier but this is the problem - esp with early springs or getting springlike temperatures in a winter month for weeks on end! March could turn out totally different!!

 


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tallyho_83
15 February 2019 12:11:54

06z ensemble chart of London:


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fairweather
15 February 2019 13:37:58

Whichever way you look at the current charts it is frustrating, that despite this absolutely glorious spell of weather, how uncanny it is that for a mild HP in winter it can predict it with utmost accuracy from miles out while they can't do this for the cold high pressures! Furthermore they are not so good at predicting the position right once summer arrives 


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Gusty
15 February 2019 13:50:42

Where's Darren's ensemble watch ?

3 perturbations fall to -10c or lower on the 6z ! 

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Bertwhistle
15 February 2019 13:51:36

Saytime maxes of -3c if P16 came about- Gosh imagine the shock?

Luckily it's FI and a cold outlier but this is the problem - esp with early springs or getting springlike temperatures in a winter month for weeks on end! March could turn out totally different!!

 

Originally Posted by: tallyho_83 

And for contrast:

https://www.theweatheroutlook.com/twodata/chart.aspx?chart=///www.theweatheroutlook.com/charts/gefs/12_252_850tmp.png?cb=320

Is this even possible? 850s of 16°C + over N France in February? P12 on the not-so-FI in the 6z.

Actually, there are a number in the ENS around 25th giving 10C + uppers for London. Not common, I would venture.


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