Arcus
19 January 2019 14:30:28


Ben,
Nr. Easingwold, North Yorkshire
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Downpour
19 January 2019 15:15:27

Originally Posted by: Arcus 


 


Is he a coldie then? 








"Signs that the US is developing nicely...just need it to amplify the N ridge next few days to encourage a cold E to NE to develop across the UK later next week"




 


Petagna is indeed a massive coldie but has to remain neutral in his forecasting of course!


Chingford
London E4
147ft
Steady
19 January 2019 15:35:43
30 dayer is updated and it reads quite well to me! Slightly less bullish but positively cold or ‘very cold’ with ongoing risk of snow!
The rollercoaster continues. Is this a sign that the 12z will swing again?!
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tallyho_83
19 January 2019 16:12:11

 



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Here's the snowstorm over the Eastern Seaboard that's been causing all the problems with the weather models for our side of the pond. It looks absolutely beautiful!





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Brian Gaze
19 January 2019 16:23:15

Originally Posted by: John p 


 


This guy writes them, why don't you ask him?


https://twitter.com/Petagna/status/1086605889208020993?s=19


 



Here goes...




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idj20
19 January 2019 16:53:37

If the latest model output runs are to go by on, anyone reading and believing in that crap from that certain red top rag are going to end up being bitterly disappointed.

Seriously, don't give that paper any more attention than it needs by showing it in here, it just doesn't serve any purpose whatsoever.


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David M Porter
19 January 2019 16:59:15

Originally Posted by: Gandalf The White 


 


The most important point to note is that the experts have access to far more information than is made public and they're far more qualified to interpret that information.


The second point is that beyond around five days the professionals don't rely on the operational output and they don't react (overreact) to every computer run.  The ensemble outputs have been consistent in showing predominantly colder weather: the forecasts reflect the strong likelihood of cold weather with the risk of some very cold weather, in line with the ensembles that we can see.


If the Met Office is holding to its forecast then it's because that's what the model output is suggesting is most likely.  There are very very few amateurs with the same level of skill and knowledge.



Well said, Peter.


I think the likes of Ian would do well to remember what you have said here before he bangs on about the MetO altering their cold outlook just because the op runs and other model info that we have access to might suggest otherwise.


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Gavin D
19 January 2019 17:17:12

BBC monthly outlook


Summary


Turning rather chilly and unsettled.


Saturday 19 January—Sunday 27 January


Cold week with a chance of snow for some.


This week looks to be rather unsettled with low pressure diving south across the UK into Western Europe. It will generally be cloudy with rain coming in along fronts that are expected to arrive Sunday and again on Tuesday. Scattered sharp showers will drift in at times mainly for western counties, and these may be wintry of thundery in places.


Beyond Tuesday, high pressure will build in the Atlantic with a broad area of low pressure developing in the Western Mediterranean. The weather will be chilly but a bit dull for the UK until Thursday, when a ridge of high pressure will extend to the north of the UK and help to develop some easterly winds. There is still some uncertainty on the exact timing and intensity of these winds, with a chance of high pressure staying further west and keeping the winds northerly. In either case, however, it will be colder than average with a brisk wind at times.


If easterlies develop for the latter part of the week, expect scattered snow showers drifting in from the east across the North Sea, mainly impacting eastern and central Britain with western counties staying dry but cold with largely clear skies. Frosts are expected overnight for most places throughout the week with crisp afternoon highs. There is still a risk (~20%) that easterlies will struggle to develop later in the week. It will still be cold in this scenario, but snow showers in the east would be unlikely.


Monday 28 January—Sunday 3 February


Staying cold with further snow risks.


The end of January and the start of February see a continuation of the cold weather for the UK, with a period of even colder weather becoming increasingly likely. Model solutions are beginning to converge on a generally cold but dry week, with some pulses of colder air bringing in a risk for wintry weather.


High pressure in the Atlantic is expected to persist through the week, with generally lower pressure over mainland Europe and the Western Mediterranean, occasionally shifting north and closer to the UK. A rather complex weather pattern unfolding, is leading to a higher degree of uncertainty on the day-to-day specifics of the forecast, with minor shifts in the location of the low and high pressure areas leading to large swings in temperature and precipitation forecasts for the UK. There is a chance (~20%) of high pressure in the Atlantic breaking down and retreating further south, leading to a more progressive flow bringing fronts and milder but windier weather into the UK.


Monday 4 February—Sunday 17 February


Colder than average but with some mild weather too


There continues to be the likelihood of some cold and perhaps wintry weather through mid-February. Stratospheric weather patterns above the Arctic at a height of around 30 km have been much weaker and warmer than usual in January. However, these patterns are expected to strengthen again through February.


What this means for us down at the surface in the UK, is that at some point in mid or perhaps late February we should see the colder air retreat into Scandinavia and Russia and a return to milder weather with progressive fronts moving in from the west. There can be quite a delay in the low levels of the atmosphere responding to this stratospheric pattern, so the cold pattern is expected to linger for most of Northern Europe, including the UK, through to at least mid-February. However, we may start to see some milder breaks in the cold weather by mid-month, with occasional lows moving in from the north-west bringing some milder air for a day or two. Similar to previous weeks discussed above, the complex weather pattern is leading to some uncertainty in any day-to-day specifics.


Next Update


We will take a closer look at the risk for snow showers in the east later this month and just how long we will be in the grips of this cold spell.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/outlook

John p
19 January 2019 17:30:32

Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


 


Here goes...





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Camberley, Surrey
Ally Pally Snowman
19 January 2019 17:36:43

Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


 


Here goes...





 


ECM to flip back to easterlies later then . I have my doubts


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PFCSCOTTY
19 January 2019 19:50:52

Originally Posted by: John p 


 


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i can feel his embarrassment and detect his sloping shoulders after putting that tripe out earlier...especially now that we all  know who puts that media release out..

Shropshire
19 January 2019 21:31:29

Originally Posted by: David M Porter 


 


Well said, Peter.


I think the likes of Ian would do well to remember what you have said here before he bangs on about the MetO altering their cold outlook just because the op runs and other model info that we have access to might suggest otherwise.



Well lets see what they do tomorrow - I guarantee it won't say 'north easterly winds' for next weekend.


 


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Gandalf The White
19 January 2019 21:43:13

Originally Posted by: Shropshire 


 


Well lets see what they do tomorrow - I guarantee it won't say 'north easterly winds' for next weekend.


 



Whilst I can guarantee they won't be talking about mild weather by next weekweek.


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Gandalf The White
19 January 2019 21:44:22

Originally Posted by: PFCSCOTTY 


 


 


i can feel his embarrassment and detect his sloping shoulders after putting that tripe out earlier...especially now that we all  know who puts that media release out..



Eh?  I have no idea what you're complaining about. Would you care to enlighten us?


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Shropshire
19 January 2019 21:47:27

Originally Posted by: Gandalf The White 


 


Whilst I can guarantee they won't be talking about mild weather by next weekweek.



Well we will see but I bet from Friday on at least the phrase 'milder' will be used. Then probably unsettled and windy especially in the NW after that.


 


 


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Gandalf The White
19 January 2019 22:08:22

Originally Posted by: Shropshire 


 


Well we will see but I bet from Friday on at least the phrase 'milder' will be used. Then probably unsettled and windy especially in the NW after that.


 


 



Based on the output we see I would say the forecast will speak of less cold for a time later next week.  There's absolutely nothing in the output to suggest it will become either mild or conventionally unsettled. But you know this already.


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Gooner
19 January 2019 22:56:52

Originally Posted by: Gandalf The White 


 


Based on the output we see I would say the forecast will speak of less cold for a time later next week.  There's absolutely nothing in the output to suggest it will become either mild or conventionally unsettled. But you know this already.



Agreed , Shrops knows that , it looks increasingly unsettled with a cold NWly flow with showers turning increasingly wintry 


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tallyho_83
20 January 2019 00:27:54
So someone will need to change their forecast tomorrow or re-write rather:

https://www.weatheronline.co.uk/weather/reports/week-ahead.htm 


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tallyho_83
20 January 2019 00:43:10
Seems like NYC will miss out on this winter storm as well - i found this article funny actually - have a read.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/17/nyregion/nyc-weather-snow-storm.html 

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