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Originally Posted by: Saint Snow  I was in Naples last Monday and visited Pompeii. Astonishing place. My understanding (and I also watched a documentary a few months/a year ago) is that the whole Bay of Naples area is a giant Caldera, and the entire area has lifted 2m in the past few years as the magma chamber builds (IIRC, it had only risen 2m in the preceding 60 years) Oh, and I was on Sicily on Wednesday, a few days before Etna cranked the pyrotechnics back up. Jealous? Me? Too right! 
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Originally Posted by: doctormog Jealous? Me? Too right!
Not sure what exactly you're jealous of, but if it's Pompeii, then all I can say is try to do it. It's an amazing place. And get a good tour guide, as they will make your visit. Ours wasn't great, but still conveyed enough to have me absolutely staggered. The scale of the place was overwhelming enough (it's surprisingly massive), but immerse yourself in the facts (eg, it was buried under 10m - yes, metres - of ash and pumice) and it's simply staggering. It was a 'bucket list' thing for me, and actually surpassed expectations. But Naples was a absolute dump. We only drove through it, and some parts might be nice, but if you're going to visit, I'd recommend staying further afield, like in Sorrento or along the Amalfi coast. Or, as we did, visit on a cruise. |
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Originally Posted by: Saint Snow Not sure what exactly you're jealous of, but if it's Pompeii, then all I can say is try to do it. It's an amazing place. And get a good tour guide, as they will make your visit. Ours wasn't great, but still conveyed enough to have me absolutely staggered. The scale of the place was overwhelming enough (it's surprisingly massive), but immerse yourself in the facts (eg, it was buried under 10m - yes, metres - of ash and pumice) and it's simply staggering. It was a 'bucket list' thing for me, and actually surpassed expectations. But Naples was a absolute dump. We only drove through it, and some parts might be nice, but if you're going to visit, I'd recommend staying further afield, like in Sorrento or along the Amalfi coast. Or, as we did, visit on a cruise. Sorrento is nice, we werethere for New Year about 5 years ago, direct coach from Naples airport avoiding the city, Circumvesuviana railway to Pompeii and Herculaneum, buses along the spectacular corniche road to Amalfi. Glad to hear that you enjoyed Pompeii though when we were there then we felt Herculaneum was even better - the part you can see (most is under the modern town) was less crowded and very well restored whereas restoration of Pompeii seemed to be a matter of putting up scaffolding and a'No entry' sign! The previous boss i/c restoration has however been sacked for diverting funds and the project is now under control of an army man, though. Off-topic, but 40 years ago we stayed in Naples and then moved on to Palermo. Naples hotelkeeper - You're going to Palermo? But they shoot people in the street!. Palermo hotelkeeper - You've come from Naples? And you haven't been robbed! |
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Originally Posted by: Saint Snow Not sure what exactly you're jealous of, but if it's Pompeii, then all I can say is try to do it. It's an amazing place. And get a good tour guide, as they will make your visit. Ours wasn't great, but still conveyed enough to have me absolutely staggered. The scale of the place was overwhelming enough (it's surprisingly massive), but immerse yourself in the facts (eg, it was buried under 10m - yes, metres - of ash and pumice) and it's simply staggering. It was a 'bucket list' thing for me, and actually surpassed expectations. But Naples was a absolute dump. We only drove through it, and some parts might be nice, but if you're going to visit, I'd recommend staying further afield, like in Sorrento or along the Amalfi coast. Or, as we did, visit on a cruise.
Not jealous of Naples but Pompeii and Etna are both on my ‘bucket list’ (along with Yellowstone of course!) |
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Originally Posted by: doctormog
Not jealous of Naples but Pompeii and Etna are both on my ‘bucket list’ (along with Yellowstone of course!) I would very much recommend a visit to Naples. So many cities in Europe are almost like open air museums, beautiful but entirely for tourists. Naples is a stunning city but not entirely conquered by tourism. |
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Originally Posted by: Lionel Hutz I would very much recommend a visit to Naples. So many cities in Europe are almost like open air museums, beautiful but entirely for tourists. Naples is a stunning city but not entirely conquered by tourism. 30 years ago, stayed in Naples before taking train on to Palermo, not without a thought for the Campi Flegrei in western Naples where the old caldera was heaving up and down by a metre or two. Apparently the upper strata are relatively strong and managed to restrain the magma moving around underneath - for now. Innkeeper in Naples "Going to Palermo? They shoot people in the street there!" Innkeeper in Palermo "From Naples? and you haven't been robbed?" |
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Originally Posted by: Lionel Hutz I would very much recommend a visit to Naples. So many cities in Europe are almost like open air museums, beautiful but entirely for tourists. Naples is a stunning city but not entirely conquered by tourism. For those who have Sky subscription or Now TV should watch the series "My Brilliant Friend", an HBO production but entirely in the local Neapolitan dialect. Really captures the mood and politics of the post war period, the corruption, mafia influence, patriarchy etc |
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Hearing reports of an earthquake in Los Angeles in the last hour. Nothing overly major but bigger than what they are commonly used to. |
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It has been quite active for the past few weeks too but this has been a large explosion. I would have asked for payment and a byline but she seems happy enough to supply the footage for free.
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Interesting piece discussing prediction of a volcanic event:
"Anak Krakatau, the Indonesian island volcano that collapsed last December triggering a huge tsunami, did produce clear warning signals before the event."
Anak Krakatau volcano collapse: 'Warning signs were there'
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-49907007
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The suggestion is that the swarm is tectonic in nature rather than volcanic but it is worth monitoring in coming weeks. |
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Originally Posted by: doctormog The suggestion is that the swarm is tectonic in nature rather than volcanic but it is worth monitoring in coming weeks. Nothing official but I've read differently. The pulsating nature of the swarm is more indicative of magma movements.
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We haven't had a big, climate-impacting eruption for a long while, have we? |
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Originally Posted by: Saint Snow We haven't had a big, climate-impacting eruption for a long while, have we? Fortunately or unfortunately depending on your perspective the swarm near the Askja volcano is not especially likely to provide one either. There does seem to be more of a pattern develops to the swarm but the significance of that remains to be seen. I will target much further judgement until I hear from the experts at the IMO. Perhaps things are developing but the tremor data I am looking at do not really scream “eruption” http://hraun.vedur.is/ja/oroi/ask.gif It is however, pardon the pun, a fluid situation. |
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Originally Posted by: Saint Snow We haven't had a big, climate-impacting eruption for a long while, have we? Debatable as we currently have higher levels of stratospheric so2 thanks to two eruptions earlier in the year. The so2 has been causing volcanic sunsets across the globe (or at least northern hemisphere) for a few months now.
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Originally Posted by: doctormog Fortunately or unfortunately depending on your perspective the swarm near the Askja volcano is not especially likely to provide one either. There does seem to be more of a pattern develops to the swarm but the significance of that remains to be seen. I will target much further judgement until I hear from the experts at the IMO. Perhaps things are developing but the tremor data I am looking at do not really scream “eruption” http://hraun.vedur.is/ja/oroi/ask.gif It is however, pardon the pun, a fluid situation. One source I've read is this is most likely a dyke intrusion and another source says that the officials at the imo ate meeting to discuss what is happening.
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Originally Posted by: picturesareme One source I've read is this is most likely a dyke intrusion  
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