Gandalf The White
04 July 2011 16:11:29

Originally Posted by: AIMSIR 


Originally Posted by: Gandalf The White 


Sometimes I struggle to understand the positions you take here and this is a gold-plated example.



I just like kicking things sometimes Gandalf,to see if anything falls out.



I hope you don't approach your wife and kids that way.....


How are you on stocks of indigestion tablets, by the way? 


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AIMSIR
04 July 2011 16:19:52

Originally Posted by: Gandalf The White 


Originally Posted by: AIMSIR 


Originally Posted by: Gandalf The White 


Sometimes I struggle to understand the positions you take here and this is a gold-plated example.



I just like kicking things sometimes Gandalf,to see if anything falls out.



I hope you don't approach your wife and kids that way.....


How are you on stocks of indigestion tablets, by the way? 


Purely metaphorical.I'm a big softy really.


I dont get the indigestion tablets bit.


Oh I get it.


I am half way through the hat.Thanks for asking.


Just my luck to have a Stetson.(very dry).

Gandalf The White
04 July 2011 16:46:14

Originally Posted by: Lawrence Beatty 


Originally Posted by: AIMSIR 


Originally Posted by: Gandalf The White 


Originally Posted by: AIMSIR 


That's the saddest most whingey, Rant I've heard in a long time. Dev.


Thanks for sharing it with us.


 



Why would that be AIMSIR?


It seemed to me to be a perfectly pitched piece of irony.


I find it intriguing that you felt it appropriate to comment on Dev's post whilst ignoring completely the extraordinary post by Lawrence that led to my riposte and Dev's post?  Perhaps you would care to enlighten us....


 


OK.Lawrence's post was lousy too.So was mine.


As regards your 600,000 year high on co2 post, so was yours.


Happy now?.



 


 


Hey don't associate me with doom and gloom  and by the way I thought my post actually showed the ice-core record; that when shown in total proportions made the so called hockey stick look like a worn out, wet, second hand, pound shop bootlace.


Humans are the pinnacle of this planets history and thankfully any additional Co2 is more than welcolmed to help with better food production which will enable us to crack the ultimate goal-endless energy . That will enable science and the globe to flourish and hopefully allow the future generations a chance of survival , if as history has shown us , things really turn bad. 


For all the doom and gloom of the AGW movement not one ice cream van, deck chair attendent and whelk stool has yet been forced to change route or head for higher ground as a result of catastrophic sea-level rises. yet people still scream we're all going to drown..


 


Sorry but that's how I see it.



That's fine - you're perfectly entitled to your views.  I and others just think you're missing the point.


The point about more CO2 aiding food production has already been justly ridiculed here - it's not proven and in any event there are other more pressing issues affecting food production which are not soluble. A few minutes research on problems with water supply, irrigation and soil quality should alert you on this point.  Beyond that think about moving climate zones and the impact on the main wheat and rice growing regions.


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130 metres ASL
52.0N 0.1E


Solar Cycles
04 July 2011 17:34:11

Originally Posted by: Gandalf The White 


Originally Posted by: Lawrence Beatty 


Originally Posted by: AIMSIR 


Originally Posted by: Gandalf The White 


Originally Posted by: AIMSIR 


That's the saddest most whingey, Rant I've heard in a long time. Dev.


Thanks for sharing it with us.


 



Why would that be AIMSIR?


It seemed to me to be a perfectly pitched piece of irony.


I find it intriguing that you felt it appropriate to comment on Dev's post whilst ignoring completely the extraordinary post by Lawrence that led to my riposte and Dev's post?  Perhaps you would care to enlighten us....


 


OK.Lawrence's post was lousy too.So was mine.


As regards your 600,000 year high on co2 post, so was yours.


Happy now?.



 


 


Hey don't associate me with doom and gloom  and by the way I thought my post actually showed the ice-core record; that when shown in total proportions made the so called hockey stick look like a worn out, wet, second hand, pound shop bootlace.


Humans are the pinnacle of this planets history and thankfully any additional Co2 is more than welcolmed to help with better food production which will enable us to crack the ultimate goal-endless energy . That will enable science and the globe to flourish and hopefully allow the future generations a chance of survival , if as history has shown us , things really turn bad. 


For all the doom and gloom of the AGW movement not one ice cream van, deck chair attendent and whelk stool has yet been forced to change route or head for higher ground as a result of catastrophic sea-level rises. yet people still scream we're all going to drown..


 


Sorry but that's how I see it.



That's fine - you're perfectly entitled to your views.  I and others just think you're missing the point.


The point about more CO2 aiding food production has already been justly ridiculed here - it's not proven and in any event there are other more pressing issues affecting food production which are not soluble. A few minutes research on problems with water supply, irrigation and soil quality should alert you on this point.  Beyond that think about moving climate zones and the impact on the main wheat and rice growing regions.


 


Sorry I just felt you needed a bit of cheering up Gandalf, you need to chillax!

Gandalf The White
04 July 2011 17:36:09

Originally Posted by: Solar Cycles 


 


Sorry I just felt you needed a bit of cheering up Gandalf, you need to chillax!



Thanks.


Another few lines like that and I'll have the makings of a new screensaver....


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130 metres ASL
52.0N 0.1E


AIMSIR
04 July 2011 19:55:31

Originally Posted by: Gandalf The White 


Originally Posted by: Solar Cycles 


 


Sorry I just felt you needed a bit of cheering up Gandalf, you need to chillax!



Thanks.


Another few lines like that and I'll have the makings of a new screensaver....


excellant.

polarwind
04 July 2011 20:27:14

Originally Posted by: AIMSIR 


Originally Posted by: Gandalf The White 


Originally Posted by: Solar Cycles 


 


Sorry I just felt you needed a bit of cheering up Gandalf, you need to chillax!



Thanks.


Another few lines like that and I'll have the makings of a new screensaver....


excellant.


Yes, I like that too Gandalf.


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Dave,Derby
Ulric
04 July 2011 20:57:15

Originally Posted by: Lawrence Beatty 


whelk stool



Freudian slip?


Sunlight is the best disinfectant. - Bill Browder.
04 July 2011 21:19:08

Originally Posted by: Ulric 


Originally Posted by: Lawrence Beatty 


whelk stool



Freudian slip?



 


Keep your cross dressing to yourself and its off topic

TomC
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16 July 2011 14:13:56

One of the most concerning aspects of the dicussion on this forum is that AGW denail seems to go along with other spects of antiscience such as denial of CFCs causing the ozone hole, denial of the adverse health effects of asbestos, insecticides, passive smoking, evolution etc etc . This is a challenge for better science education in schools and through the media of the public in general.

Solar Cycles
16 July 2011 18:56:39

Originally Posted by: TomC 


One of the most concerning aspects of the dicussion on this forum is that AGW denail seems to go along with other spects of antiscience such as denial of CFCs causing the ozone hole, denial of the adverse health effects of asbestos, insecticides, passive smoking, evolution etc etc . This is a challenge for better science education in schools and through the media of the public in general.


With the exception of CFC's which is another can of worms, then probably not all of us sceptics share the same outlook. Although evolution in some aspects is another can of worms, chicken, egg and all that. 

Essan
16 July 2011 19:05:18

Originally Posted by: Solar Cycles 


 Although evolution in some aspects is another can of worms, chicken, egg and all that. 



 


It's interesting that a number of people very prominent in their refutal of the idea human activity affects climate, also refute evolution.


Coincidence?


 


Edit: btw, the order is worm, egg, chicken


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Solar Cycles
16 July 2011 19:18:04

Originally Posted by: Essan 


Originally Posted by: Solar Cycles 


 Although evolution in some aspects is another can of worms, chicken, egg and all that. 



 


It's interesting that a number of people very prominent in their refutal of the idea human activity affects climate, also refute evolution.


Coincidence?


 


Edit: btw, the order is worm, egg, chicken


Evolution cannot be refuted as it's an ongoing process, what is debatable is the origins of man. No concrete proof either way I'm afraid. Oh dear I've got an awful feeling this is going the way of many debates on here, round and round and round and round, stop now I want to get off!! 

AIMSIR
16 July 2011 19:27:15

Originally Posted by: Solar Cycles 


Originally Posted by: Essan 


Originally Posted by: Solar Cycles 


 Although evolution in some aspects is another can of worms, chicken, egg and all that. 



 


It's interesting that a number of people very prominent in their refutal of the idea human activity affects climate, also refute evolution.


Coincidence?


 


Edit: btw, the order is worm, egg, chicken


Evolution cannot be refuted as it's an ongoing process, what is debatable is the origins of man. No concrete proof either way I'm afraid. Oh dear I've got an awful feeling this is going the way of many debates on here, round and round and round and round, stop now I want to get off!! 


Stick with it Cycles.


Some here, are experts at thread wrecking if they don't like your opinions.


Watch out for the Deep Green Brigade.


At least one should post here soon with indignation.


,Don't let them get you down.I think they are generally known to most posters here as pains in the you know what?.

Solar Cycles
16 July 2011 19:35:53

Originally Posted by: AIMSIR 


Originally Posted by: Solar Cycles 


Originally Posted by: Essan 


Originally Posted by: Solar Cycles 


 Although evolution in some aspects is another can of worms, chicken, egg and all that. 



 


It's interesting that a number of people very prominent in their refutal of the idea human activity affects climate, also refute evolution.


Coincidence?


 


Edit: btw, the order is worm, egg, chicken


Evolution cannot be refuted as it's an ongoing process, what is debatable is the origins of man. No concrete proof either way I'm afraid. Oh dear I've got an awful feeling this is going the way of many debates on here, round and round and round and round, stop now I want to get off!! 


Stick with it Cycles.


Some here, are experts at thread wrecking if they don't like your opinions.


,Don't let them get you down.


No chance of that Aimsir, as some on here would love to see me disappear/banned , due to my diligent  determination for the truth to be told.

AIMSIR
16 July 2011 19:43:23

Originally Posted by: Solar Cycles 


Originally Posted by: AIMSIR 


Originally Posted by: Solar Cycles 


Originally Posted by: Essan 


Originally Posted by: Solar Cycles 


 Although evolution in some aspects is another can of worms, chicken, egg and all that. 



 


It's interesting that a number of people very prominent in their refutal of the idea human activity affects climate, also refute evolution.


Coincidence?


 


Edit: btw, the order is worm, egg, chicken


Evolution cannot be refuted as it's an ongoing process, what is debatable is the origins of man. No concrete proof either way I'm afraid. Oh dear I've got an awful feeling this is going the way of many debates on here, round and round and round and round, stop now I want to get off!! 


Stick with it Cycles.


Some here, are experts at thread wrecking if they don't like your opinions.


,Don't let them get you down.


No chance of that Aimsir, as some on here would love to see me disappear/banned , due to my diligent  determination for the truth to be told.


Most do make a degree of sense.


Some are just nuts and despise humans and even themselves sadly.Imo.


No future no hope.no ideas for the future.bad bad all the way.


Sad really.

Solar Cycles
16 July 2011 19:57:42

Originally Posted by: AIMSIR 


Originally Posted by: Solar Cycles 


Originally Posted by: AIMSIR 


Originally Posted by: Solar Cycles 


Originally Posted by: Essan 


Originally Posted by: Solar Cycles 


 Although evolution in some aspects is another can of worms, chicken, egg and all that. 



 


It's interesting that a number of people very prominent in their refutal of the idea human activity affects climate, also refute evolution.


Coincidence?


 


Edit: btw, the order is worm, egg, chicken


Evolution cannot be refuted as it's an ongoing process, what is debatable is the origins of man. No concrete proof either way I'm afraid. Oh dear I've got an awful feeling this is going the way of many debates on here, round and round and round and round, stop now I want to get off!! 


Stick with it Cycles.


Some here, are experts at thread wrecking if they don't like your opinions.


,Don't let them get you down.


No chance of that Aimsir, as some on here would love to see me disappear/banned , due to my diligent  determination for the truth to be told.


Most do make a degree of sense.


Some are just nuts and despise humans and even themselves sadly.Imo.


 Oh I agree some of the warmers on here are very good posters, some are a little OTT, and then some just hate all of mankind. It's what makes the world go round though. 

four
  • four
  • Advanced Member
16 July 2011 20:00:22

Originally Posted by: TomC 


One of the most concerning aspects of the dicussion on this forum is that AGW denail seems to go along with other spects of antiscience such as denial of CFCs causing the ozone hole, denial of the adverse health effects of asbestos, insecticides, passive smoking, evolution etc etc . This is a challenge for better science education in schools and through the media of the public in general.




Saying if you don't go along with the supposed  'consensus' opinion of imminent disasterous warming means you probably have irrational opinions on various other topics is rather a irrational viewpoint.
It assumes for a start that the 'consensus' was not manufactured in some way.
http://judithcurry.com/2011/07/16/manufacturing-consensus/


Essan
16 July 2011 20:02:57

Originally Posted by: AIMSIR 


Some are just nuts and despise humans and even themselves sadly.Imo.



You spoken to a pistachio or an almond lately?  You'd be surprised what they have to say


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Essan
16 July 2011 20:04:43

Originally Posted by: four 


Saying if you don't go along with the supposed  'consensus' opinion of imminent disasterous warming means you probably have irrational opinions on various other topics is rather a irrational viewpoint.
It assumes for a start that the 'consensus' was not manufactured in some way.



As opposed to promoting catastrophic global cooling .....


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