Saint Snow
28 June 2011 09:17:59

Glazers putting their money where their slack-jawed gobs are and supporting Ferguson in his umpteenth 'rebuilding'.


Think they overpaid for Jones (although he could just as easily prove to be a bargain in time) but they've picked up Young for a snip. The deal for De Gea also looks an absolute steal at £17m. With more players likely to come in, they're stealing a march on the bling clubs of Citeh and Chelski.


 



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wallaw
28 June 2011 09:39:58

Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 


Glazers putting their money where their slack-jawed gobs are and supporting Ferguson in his umpteenth 'rebuilding'.


Think they overpaid for Jones (although he could just as easily prove to be a bargain in time) but they've picked up Young for a snip. The deal for De Gea also looks an absolute steal at £17m. With more players likely to come in, they're stealing a march on the bling clubs of Citeh and Chelski.


 



Still need some creativity in central midfield and I just wonder if Hernandez can do it for a second season?


Citeh will still challenge them hard and will still plash the cash on some big names.


Ian


Stockton-on-Tees

Saint Snow
28 June 2011 10:05:15

The Farbegas Farce rumbles on.


He's tied to a long-term deal, Arsenal don't really want to sell, but would for a good price. Barca have persistently sought to unsettle him but don't want to pay a good price. Talk now is that they're pushing him to go on strike to secure a move.


Surely there are Barca players that Arsenal would want in px?



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Saint Snow
28 June 2011 10:07:57

Meanwhile, the Liverpool rumour mill keeps being the most daft. BBC Gossip having a report that we're after Wayne Bridge. Bollocks to that.


We do look like wasting far too much cash on Downing and Charlie Adam, though, as the re-Britification of Liverpool continues.



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future_is_orange
28 June 2011 16:14:51

Originally Posted by: wallaw 


Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 


Glazers putting their money where their slack-jawed gobs are and supporting Ferguson in his umpteenth 'rebuilding'.


Think they overpaid for Jones (although he could just as easily prove to be a bargain in time) but they've picked up Young for a snip. The deal for De Gea also looks an absolute steal at £17m. With more players likely to come in, they're stealing a march on the bling clubs of Citeh and Chelski.


 



Still need some creativity in central midfield and I just wonder if Hernandez can do it for a second season?


Citeh will still challenge them hard and will still plash the cash on some big names.



There is little doubt that Hernandez will become a superstar..the boy has terrific pace, finnishing  and awareness. Jones on paper is a little expensive but the top home grown talent always are. De Gea ,i also agree with Saint  he does look a steal likewise Young !! Creative midfielder... Man U are in the hunt for 3 Sneijder, Modric and Nasri. Hopefully one of them will sign.


Already looking ominous for the top teams who trailed Man U this season. Man U have really stole a march on the summer signings.


Charlie Adam... now this lad struggled badly at Glasgow Rangers and is now touted as the best things since sliced bread. I am not buying into it..... i really dont think he will make it at a bigger club.

SEMerc
28 June 2011 16:56:33

Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 


The Farbegas Farce rumbles on.


He's tied to a long-term deal, Arsenal don't really want to sell, but would for a good price. Barca have persistently sought to unsettle him but don't want to pay a good price. Talk now is that they're pushing him to go on strike to secure a move.


Surely there are Barca players that Arsenal would want in px?



Real have come in with a 50m euros raid, apparently.

SEMerc
28 June 2011 17:08:48

Originally Posted by: future_is_orange 


Originally Posted by: wallaw 


Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 


Glazers putting their money where their slack-jawed gobs are and supporting Ferguson in his umpteenth 'rebuilding'.


Think they overpaid for Jones (although he could just as easily prove to be a bargain in time) but they've picked up Young for a snip. The deal for De Gea also looks an absolute steal at £17m. With more players likely to come in, they're stealing a march on the bling clubs of Citeh and Chelski.


 



Still need some creativity in central midfield and I just wonder if Hernandez can do it for a second season?


Citeh will still challenge them hard and will still plash the cash on some big names.



There is little doubt that Hernandez will become a superstar..the boy has terrific pace, finnishing  and awareness. Jones on paper is a little expensive but the top home grown talent always are. De Gea ,i also agree with Saint  he does look a steal likewise Young !! Creative midfielder... Man U are in the hunt for 3 Sneijder, Modric and Nasri. Hopefully one of them will sign.


Already looking ominous for the top teams who trailed Man U this season. Man U have really stole a march on the summer signings.


Charlie Adam... now this lad struggled badly at Glasgow Rangers and is now touted as the best things since sliced bread. I am not buying into it..... i really dont think he will make it at a bigger club.



Little doubt that United have stolen a march on their rivals. Jones will be a good addition, as will DeGea. I can see Jones being employed as a DM in front of the back four - a job he is perfectly capable of doing.


I'm not sold on Young though, unless Ferguson has in mind to move him in from the wing.


Modric apparently is having a medical on Thursday, pending a move to United, according to one ITK. Even the lads on Red Cafe were peeing themseleves at that one, as indeed was I.


Liverpool have done little in the market yet, apart from continuing their propensity of overpaying for good, if not exactly great players. Henderson, even at £13-16m, is overvalued.


Adam? No thanks - Liverpool are welcome to him.


Wickham, though, will be one for the future, assuming he goes to Anfield. I really can't see him ending up at the SOL, despite an agreed fee. Hopefully, 'Arry will come in with a late bid, although it doesn't look like it.

wallaw
29 June 2011 07:01:23

Originally Posted by: SEMerc 


Wickham, though, will be one for the future, assuming he goes to Anfield. I really can't see him ending up at the SOL, despite an agreed fee. Hopefully, 'Arry will come in with a late bid, although it doesn't look like it.



I agree, if one of the bigger clubs put a firm offer in for him that matches our bid then I am sure his head will be turned. He won't get much of a game for a while at Anfield or indeed at Spurs though, so if he has a decent agent/family behind him, they might be telling him to come to us for a couple of years to get first team football before heading off.


To be completely honest, I'm not sure he is worth close on 9m at this time anyway.


Ian


Stockton-on-Tees

SEMerc
29 June 2011 09:20:38

Originally Posted by: wallaw 


Originally Posted by: SEMerc 


Wickham, though, will be one for the future, assuming he goes to Anfield. I really can't see him ending up at the SOL, despite an agreed fee. Hopefully, 'Arry will come in with a late bid, although it doesn't look like it.



I agree, if one of the bigger clubs put a firm offer in for him that matches our bid then I am sure his head will be turned. He won't get much of a game for a while at Anfield or indeed at Spurs though, so if he has a decent agent/family behind him, they might be telling him to come to us for a couple of years to get first team football before heading off.


To be completely honest, I'm not sure he is worth close on 9m at this time anyway.



Well it looks increasingly likely now that Wickham is going to the SOL. Personally, I think Bruce has pulled a masterstroke - even at the reported price.

wallaw
29 June 2011 10:31:48

Originally Posted by: SEMerc 


Originally Posted by: wallaw 


Originally Posted by: SEMerc 


Wickham, though, will be one for the future, assuming he goes to Anfield. I really can't see him ending up at the SOL, despite an agreed fee. Hopefully, 'Arry will come in with a late bid, although it doesn't look like it.



I agree, if one of the bigger clubs put a firm offer in for him that matches our bid then I am sure his head will be turned. He won't get much of a game for a while at Anfield or indeed at Spurs though, so if he has a decent agent/family behind him, they might be telling him to come to us for a couple of years to get first team football before heading off.


To be completely honest, I'm not sure he is worth close on 9m at this time anyway.



Well it looks increasingly likely now that Wickham is going to the SOL. Personally, I think Bruce has pulled a masterstroke - even at the reported price.



I hope you are right but I always worry about the step up to the premier league and his record for goals is not earth shattering at championship level.


Meanwhile, United get their man


http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/13933241.stm


or one of them


Ian


Stockton-on-Tees

Saint Snow
06 July 2011 14:12:16

Liverpool have signed Charlie Adam


I just hope we've not paid very much for him



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Saint Snow
06 July 2011 14:48:57

Just a thought... if we also sign Downing, Dalglish is going to be managing the most pedestrian, flairless, plodding, ordinary Liverpool team I can remember.


Where's the pace? the skill? the flair? There's even talk of letting Meireles go. Oh, great.


I'm very worried about the forthcoming season. Only for the fact that all teams apart from Man U/Chelsea/Arsenal/Citeh and Spurs are crap, I'd be thinking he'd set his stall out for mid table. Oh well, 6th again.



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Snow Hoper
06 July 2011 14:57:38

Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 


Liverpool have signed Charlie Adam


I just hope we've not paid very much for him



Indeed, And Downing? He's not worth £15 let alone £15M


Then again I don't rate Utd's new signing Young very highly either


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Saint Snow
06 July 2011 15:29:11

Originally Posted by: Snow Hoper 


Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 


Liverpool have signed Charlie Adam


I just hope we've not paid very much for him



Indeed, And Downing? He's not worth £15 let alone £15M


Then again I don't rate Utd's new signing Young very highly either



I think Utd have signed just what they needed in Young. Probably going to sign an attacking/play-making midfielder, too - Sneijder? And possibly another striker, should anyone be daft enough to pay £12-15m for Berbaflop.


I've said it umpteen times before: Dalglish's transfer dealings in his first speall as Liverpool manager brought about the beginning of the end of our dominance (his work carried on with aplomb by Souness, Evans and Houllier  )


It seems to me that he's not learned the lesson - although now his crap signings cost even more money.



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SEMerc
06 July 2011 15:50:45

Originally Posted by: Snow Hoper 


Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 


Liverpool have signed Charlie Adam


I just hope we've not paid very much for him



Indeed, And Downing? He's not worth £15 let alone £15M


Then again I don't rate Utd's new signing Young very highly either



I don't rate either, either.

SEMerc
06 July 2011 15:53:37

Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 


Liverpool have signed Charlie Adam


I just hope we've not paid very much for him



Thankfully, our 'deal' for Adam went tits up during the last window because it was two minutes too late.


Still, until we get rid of our dead wood there won't be anything happening for us.

Snow Hoper
06 July 2011 17:20:42

Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 


 


I think Utd have signed just what they needed in Young. Probably going to sign an attacking/play-making midfielder, too - Sneijder? And possibly another striker, should anyone be daft enough to pay £12-15m for Berbaflop.


I've said it umpteen times before: Dalglish's transfer dealings in his first speall as Liverpool manager brought about the beginning of the end of our dominance (his work carried on with aplomb by Souness, Evans and Houllier  )


It seems to me that he's not learned the lesson - although now his crap signings cost even more money.



Hodgson was just as bad. Paul Koncesky is not prem class let alone a supposed top 5 side. For the life of me, I never understood why Johnson was bought for £18M? He can't defend and yet he is a defender, which is why Chelsea got rid. Although I don't remember whether that was a RH signing or not


Now, Chelsea want/bidded for LM from spurs. Is he really whats needed? I'm not sure, especially at the price that'll need to be paid. Chelsea need a creative midfielder and LM provided just 4 assists all season I'm led to believe. Nothing'll happen until AVB has assessed all the players he's already got I'd imagine anyway


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wallaw
08 July 2011 07:46:25

The way Sunderland are going at the moment we will have a completely new starting 11 for the opening game of the season..........let's hope we have plenty of pre-season games at a good level or I fear the worst...........changing so many players rarely works.



Ian


Stockton-on-Tees

future_is_orange
08 July 2011 08:20:56

Originally Posted by: wallaw 


The way Sunderland are going at the moment we will have a completely new starting 11 for the opening game of the season..........let's hope we have plenty of pre-season games at a good level or I fear the worst...........changing so many players rarely works.




 


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