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doctormog
07 June 2025 16:30:33

Not sure single lightning strike in whole of UK let alone thunderstorms. Fail.

Originally Posted by: The Dub Version 

There has been quite a bit of lightning on NE Scotland as well as across parts of the south today. Some activity is still ongoing:

https://map.blitzortung.org/#4.86/54.68/-3.17 

On the topic of the model output, it looks as if things will warm up after the next couple of days, whether they become more settled or not is a different matter.


DEW
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07 June 2025 16:33:13

Not sure single lightning strike in whole of UK let alone thunderstorms. Fail.

Originally Posted by: The Dub Version 

You could look at https://www.lightningmaps.org/?lang=en; and be sure? Disappointingly few but not none.

Also check our own convection thread #9


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chelseagirl
07 June 2025 16:49:09

Not sure single lightning strike in whole of UK let alone thunderstorms. Fail.

Originally Posted by: The Dub Version 

Had several here south of Kings Lynn, Norfolk


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Ally Pally Snowman
07 June 2025 18:58:18
Great set of 12s all round. 
Bishop's Stortford 85m ASL.
Rob K
08 June 2025 00:09:55

Great set of 12s all round. 

Originally Posted by: Ally Pally Snowman 

And a very poor 18Z GFS if you are after a warm and settled end to the month. 


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Chunky Pea
08 June 2025 05:00:00

And a very poor 18Z GFS if you are after a warm and settled end to the month. 

Originally Posted by: Rob K 

EC 15 daysr suggests a prolonged high pressure spell. Whether this lasts till the end of the month is anyone's guess. 


Patrick,

East Galway, Ireland.

Retron
08 June 2025 06:21:26
This morning's GFS will bring cheer to heat fans in the SE, or dread for folks like me! A puddle of 21C 850s crosses the SE on Saturday, bringing 34C here as an example, and still 24C over central London at 1AM on Sunday morning. 

https://images.meteociel.fr/im/12/4959/156_7UKkga1.GIF 

https://images.meteociel.fr/im/73/6932/168_778UKokl0.GIF 

https://ukwct.org.uk/weather/34c.jpg 

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Ally Pally Snowman
08 June 2025 06:43:08

And a very poor 18Z GFS if you are after a warm and settled end to the month. 

Originally Posted by: Rob K 

The vagaries of the GFS op which as usual is all over the place.  Most other output has HP building in strongly after the plume. As is the case again this morning. 


Bishop's Stortford 85m ASL.
Polar Low
08 June 2025 07:10:46
Big shift from ecm regarding TLow full marks to ukmo 

https://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/ecmwf.php?ech=144&mode=1&map=3&type=0&archive=0 

Not so silly in uppers per gfs  all look to have recovery from s/w.

Gm looks best for lasting warmth looks a little isolated now but having said that 0z ecm mean looks solid

Have to see where opp sits but good news as per AP settled weather returns quickly.

DEW
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08 June 2025 07:20:10
GFS Op 00z; HP extending from the SW and by Wed 11th splitting off a cell which lies near Denmark 1020mb. This combined with a trough in the Atlantic brings up some very warm air from the south persisting especially in the SE to the weekend. From Sat 14th a shallow area of LP runs NE from Brittany reaching Norway Tue 17th (beware thunderstorms!) before HP re-asserts itself W of Ireland ridging across Scotland. The ridge disappears as the HP pulls back W-wards, and from Sun 22nd Britain is under N/NW-lies on the fringe of the HP.

ECM; From Sat 14th it's the Atlantic end of the trough rather than the Brittany end which runs across Britain, and does so further north thus looking less settled for N Scotland and less thundery for the rest. The HP re-asserts itself a day or two earlier, and is positioned off SW England before Tue 17th.

GEM; not quite such a blowtorch as the above, and the LP traversing Britain is less of a feature with HP back in control by Sun 15th and situated squarely over Britain 1025mb Tue 17th.

GEFS; in the S becoming warm or very warm Wed 11th - Sat 14th then cooling with rain, heavy in some ens members; mean temp then stays a little above norm for the rest of the forecast with the usual spread of ens members (control warm, op cool) and small amounts of rain randomly. Similar in the N, though not quite as hot to start with and a more gradual cooling. ECM ensembles similar, perhaps a little warmer in the later stages but also less agreement between ens members


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Brian Gaze
08 June 2025 07:27:44
Potentially lots of interest this week! GFS going for 35C on Saturday.

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It is the result of a second plume of heat which a cluster of the runs support. But look at that rain spike.  😂

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Chunky Pea
08 June 2025 08:00:43

Big shift from ecm regarding TLow full marks to ukmo 

https://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/ecmwf.php?ech=144&mode=1&map=3&type=0&archive=0 

Not so silly in uppers per gfs  all look to have recovery from s/w.

Gm looks best for lasting warmth looks a little isolated now but having said that 0z ecm mean looks solid

Have to see where opp sits but good news as per AP settled weather returns quickly.

Originally Posted by: Polar Low 

That shallow low slap bang over me in that chart looks interesting when coupled with the positioning of the corresponding upper low.  Serious shear potential. ⚡⚡


Patrick,

East Galway, Ireland.

Polar Low
08 June 2025 08:20:46
I think it unlikely only imo at this stage but if gfs had that heat spike right I’m sure 40c would be hit with some of our neighbours, outrageous heat and concerning so early into summer

https://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/gfs/temperatures-2m/156h.htm 

Matty H
08 June 2025 09:19:26
ECM has been far more consistent with the high pressure outlook from mid month than GFS, which, as often it is, has been all over the place from run to run. 


Yate, Nr Bristol

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The Beast from the East
08 June 2025 10:33:15

I think it unlikely only imo at this stage but if gfs had that heat spike right I’m sure 40c would be hit with some of our neighbours, outrageous heat and concerning so early into summer

https://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/gfs/temperatures-2m/156h.htm 

Originally Posted by: Polar Low 

Potential for some torrential rain early hours Saturday as the two airmasses collide.  I hope its further west as we had enough yesterday.  


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Brian Gaze
08 June 2025 15:04:33

I've just removed some OT posts. 


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The Beast from the East
08 June 2025 18:29:54

ECM looking warm and very wet.  I think flash flooding is going to be the media story this time next week rather than heat

All those people panicking about the dry weather in March and April looking a bit silly now!


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bledur
08 June 2025 18:35:57

ECM looking warm and very wet.  I think flash flooding is going to be the media story this time next week rather than heat

All those people panicking about the dry weather in March and April looking a bit silly now!

Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 

Yes the weather always evens up at some point . Thursday being highlighted on BBC week ahead as a potentially very wet day in places

JOHN NI
08 June 2025 19:15:09

ECM looking warm and very wet.  I think flash flooding is going to be the media story this time next week rather than heat

All those people panicking about the dry weather in March and April looking a bit silly now!

Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 

I for one never panic about dry weather in this part of the world. Order is always restored - often to the point of disorder!


John.

The orange County of Armagh.

doctormog
08 June 2025 19:22:23

I for one never panic about dry weather in this part of the world. Order is always restored - often to the point of disorder!

Originally Posted by: JOHN NI 

Helps the apples grow. 😀


Brian Gaze
08 June 2025 21:34:02

UKV going for 32C on Friday.

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Brian Gaze
09 June 2025 06:21:57

Details for this week have changed quite a lot since Saturday. It now looks like the highest temperatures are more likely a couple of days later. 

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Ally Pally Snowman
09 June 2025 06:56:45

ECMs turn to be the summer grinch this morning, it's not terrible but has a cool north westerly at times. All other models are wall to wall scorchio. 


Bishop's Stortford 85m ASL.
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09 June 2025 07:16:49

GFS Op 00z; As the week progresses, HP sets up over the N Sea Wed 11th which with LP on Atlantic brings in warm/hot S-lies, possibly thundery weather for Thu; then a resurgence of the HP and a reload of the S-lies and possible thunder at the weekend, HP cell then develops fully by Tue 17th 1030mb  covering Britain, drifting N-wards 1030mb NE Scotland Sat 21st but dissipating Wed 25th with the possibility of a thundery low moving up from France Wed 25th.

ECM; The HP cell does not come close to Britain after Tue 17th, at firs staying to the south but by Thu 19th in northern mid-Atlantic with NW-lies for Britain, and the edge of an LP over Scandinavia affecting NE Scotland

GEM; like GFS - that HP Tue 17th is a little further west, over Ireland, but still determines the weather for Britain unlike ECM

GEFS; In the S a double peak of high temps, Thu 12th and Sat 14th, in each case followed by a rainfall peak as weather cools again; in Scotland more of a single plateau, not quite as hot and some rain on and off 13th-15th but not reaching the far N. Temps generally from Mon 16th for the whole period close to norm with fairly good ens agreement (though control often cooler and op gets warmer later on) and only occasional splashes of rain. 


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GezM
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09 June 2025 08:16:29

The double peak of heat that Dew refers to has it's 2nd peak largely overnight on the Friday and is associated with high humidity and thunderstorms. If that materialised, much of the south east of England would be under a much fresher airstream by Saturday day time. It's obviously fine lines though and some extreme eastern parts could hang onto heat through Saturday too. Potential also for the heat to temporarily push further west but generally these outcomes turn out more progressive than the models show in advance.   


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