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Col
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Sunday, January 12, 2025 8:07:41 AM

Its an odd one. I saw alot of snow on Sunday, more than I've seen for years. But 90% of it was gone by Monday. But the other 10% is still there even now. In terms of longevity of mean low temperatures its been unusual. Yet neither the maxima (hovering around 0-2 with not a single ice day) nor the minima (around -5) have been in any way exceptional. The exceptional part was longevity of the coldness and preservation of frozen surfaces for an entire week which unfortunately has been unusual.

As such I have to give this an above average rating. So I'm forced almost by default to give it a 6/10. No ice days, no extreme low temperatures, only 1 day of snow. Yet somehow its still the best I've seen for years.

Originally Posted by: Quantum 

So where are you then?


Col

Bolton, Lancashire

160m asl

Snow videos:

http://www.youtube.com/channel/UC3QvmL4UWBmHFMKWiwYm_gg

NMA
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Sunday, January 12, 2025 9:25:44 AM

I've added a number of photos to the TWO image gallery. They can be viewed here

https://www.theweatheroutlook.com/twoother/sky-eye-gallery.aspx?user=Brian%20Gaze 

Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 

Those are great Brian.

Ah, snowdrops. Sign of Spring. A reminder that it's a great to time split clumps into single bulbs and replant just after flowering.


Vale of the Great Dairies

South Dorset

Elevation 60m 197ft

Jiries
Sunday, January 12, 2025 9:26:57 AM
Poor less cold spell was here at 0/10.

Failed to bring hard frosts with grass min at -11.2C before the snow events arrive which will help to settled well and follow by very heavy snow instead of heavy rain follow by moderate snow before petering out leaving more colder nights and sunny days.

This one was too high temps, slush puppy snowfall follow by useless hard frosts later on without snow cover.

Sadly this nasty winter killer HP gloom and wet are now here to stay foreseeable despite stupid app showing full sun today, they were severely wrong during the cold spell non-stop.

RHannam
Sunday, January 12, 2025 9:54:52 AM
5/10 for my location. Most of the rating based on longevity of the cold spell as opposed to any falling/lying Snow. A much higher rating would have been on the cards if last Sundays event wasn't a Snow to Rain event here, so the 3-4cm of Snow lying Sunday morning which looked great was washed away by teatime, with zero snowfall here this week. I'd take cold and sunny over mild and wet any day though and at least the frost accumulation over the past few days has made it look seasonal 🙂 Hoping we get at least another bite at cold before the winter is out, preferably from the East or North East. The Feb 2021 cold spell was the last time we had any decent snow cover here which stuck around a few days.
Ray

Location: Newcastle Upon Tyne, 63m ASL

Hippydave
Sunday, January 12, 2025 5:12:46 PM
5/10 I guess - maybe a touch generous but we have had around 9 days of cold weather, with a patchy snow cover for 4 days inc today and 3 days with snow falling. Overall it's just been a touch too warm to remember it that fondly although the crisp frosty days have been very welcome after what has felt like a very drab winter so far.

Lowest overnight temp was -4.1c, which is chilly for MBY but not unusually so. 

Looks like a fairly gradual warm up towards average and no wet weather to speak off for a while, so a gentle end to things rather than the abrupt switch to wet and windy we often see. 


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howham
Sunday, January 12, 2025 8:25:34 PM
A very decent 12 day cold spell here.  We've had good snowfall accumulating, blowing snow, icicles and ice days.  I also managed to see the outside Xmas lights in the snow which I love to see.  

Finished off with some ice days and severe overnight frosts.  8/10.

Crepuscular Ray
Monday, January 13, 2025 8:38:32 AM
4/10 for Edinburgh city. Cold, sunny and very frosty at times but disappointing rain early on. We are in a snow shadow with northerlies! 1cm snow on 1 day which was washed away by evening.

If I lived 5 miles south it would have been 8/10 with 12 days of frozen snow and blue sky in The Pentlands, managed to experience that on 2 days walking up there

If I lived back in West Yorkshire/Dales it would have been 9/10 with 12 days of deep snow and blue sky

Edinburgh is an unremarkable place for interesting weather!


Jerry

Edinburgh, in the frost hollow below Blackford Hill

Viking3
Monday, January 13, 2025 9:02:22 AM
I'd rate this spell as 8/10 for here. We've had just about everything; frequent falls of snow, 12 consecutive days of snow lying, lots of sunshine then to top it off some textbook radiation nights and severe overnight frosts.

In a way you can have too much snow. More than about 10cm if it lies for long becomes a nuisance - there is usually lots of ice and rutted frozen snow which makes getting round difficult. It's great to watch it fall, and see it on the ground for a couple of days but after a while it gets a bit wearing. This spell we had about 5-7cm throughout here, and that was almost perfect - it was easy to get around and didn't really get in the way of getting on with daily life.

It has also been slightly tempered by knowing a week in advance almost to the hour at which the cold spell would come to an end - the models are too good!


Keith

Aboyne, Aberdeenshire

135m asl

johncs2016
Monday, January 13, 2025 9:24:46 AM

4/10 for Edinburgh city. Cold, sunny and very frosty at times but disappointing rain early on. We are in a snow shadow with northerlies! 1cm snow on 1 day which was washed away by evening.

If I lived 5 miles south it would have been 8/10 with 12 days of frozen snow and blue sky in The Pentlands, managed to experience that on 2 days walking up there

If I lived back in West Yorkshire/Dales it would have been 9/10 with 12 days of deep snow and blue sky

Edinburgh is an unremarkable place for interesting weather!

Originally Posted by: Crepuscular Ray 

Well done for realising that Edinburgh just doesn't generally get interesting weather, especially in comparison with elsewhere in the UK.

That is what I have been saying all along for quite some time on this forum.


The north of Edinburgh, usually always missing out on snow events which occur not just within the rest of Scotland or the UK, but also within the rest of Edinburgh.

Retron
Monday, January 13, 2025 11:51:09 AM
The last of the ice has melted, so here's my rating:

If I were comparing it to my whole life so far, including the 80s and 90s, it would have barely scraped a 2/10. That's mainly for the frost persisting and building up over several days, plus the freezing fog yesterday - something which is and always has been rare here.

But it's not the 80s or 90s any more, snow on the ground at 9 AM is now a 1-in-4 or 5 year event, and as such measuring it against the past 15 years comes up with a much higher result - 7/10, I would say. Points gained for:

* A brief dusting of snow at half past midnight right at the start - good job I had my Nest cam going! That made it the snowiest spell for 4 years.

* More than the traditional "three frosts and it wets itself" type of cold spell (it started off that way, had a blip, then came back even colder).

* Frost persisting on the lawn for three days, ending up looking for all the world like a heavy dusting of snow (even down to the "crunch" as you walk on it). Ice developed on ponds etc and stayed there throughout the coldest part of the spell.

* An interesting transition to and from the mild blip on Sunday/Monday - going from 5 to 11 in just an hour or so on the way up, and 11 to 4 in an hour on the way down. Shame about the gales that accompanied the latter!

* A 3-day 1-minute mean temperature of -0.9, and a 4-day of -0.2 - very unusual these days.

* Freezing fog and rime

* A daytime max of 1.0 - as close to an ice day as you're going to get without snow on the ground.

And above all, it actually *felt* like winter - for 10 glorious cold days, plus the day or so where it reverted to autumn and then went back to winter, a remarkable experience and more like a Continental climate than the good old UK. The run up to it was good, as well, and more widely there was noteworthy cold in the north. I've enjoyed it very much, and I think it's about as good as you could get without a proper snow covering.

For those wondering what would give a higher score, a few inches of snow would add a point, an ice day would add a second and the third and final one would come from an easterly/northerly reload.


Leysdown, north Kent
richardabdn
Monday, January 13, 2025 12:17:24 PM
Snow was decent to start but overstayed it's welcome. As soon as the North Sea influence made it's presence felt it turned to an ugly, slushy mess. Similar depth to recent years with 9-12cm. There hasn't been any really memorable snowfall of 20cm+ for 14 years now whereas it used to be seen about every 5-6 years prior to that.

Temperatures were beyond diabolical. Only four nights as low as -2.5C and many nights struggled to get below zero at all despite clear skies most nights and maxima of only 0-2C. Shocking for the heart of winter and the worst of any spell of comparative length, apart from January 2013, which was mostly overcast yet still managed a lower extreme.

No ice days which even last December, one of the mildest on record, achieved with no snow on the ground. The absolute low was only 1.3C lower than Decembers despite the snow. Just pathetic.

It doesn't matter what set-up it now produces almost non-existent temperature variation and diurnal ranges. Beyond tedious.


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Viking3
Monday, January 13, 2025 1:22:42 PM
Here are the statistics so far for Altnaharra up to 0900 GMT today. The mean temperature so far is -3.1C which is 6.2 degC below the 1991-2020 average. We can enjoy it while it lasts!

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Keith

Aboyne, Aberdeenshire

135m asl

picturesareme
Tuesday, January 14, 2025 1:04:09 AM
The cold spell hasn't really ended down here. As of yesterday the 13th we struggled to make it to 7C and it was already frosty by midnight. Looking ahead the mild weather keeps getting downgraded and I now see we have highs of 6C forecast later in the week. The Weeknd gone was supposed to be having temperatures into the low teens. Saturday 6C Sunday 7C both nights frosty. 

The winter so far has 2008/09 vibes about it down here. We haven't seen quite the low overnight temperatures that winter had.. yet.

February 2009 delivered some decent snow for some down here, Portsmouth even had a dusting 😂

speckledjim
Tuesday, January 14, 2025 8:50:40 AM
After 10 days of lying snow it's finally nearly gone.
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NMA
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Tuesday, January 14, 2025 9:07:10 AM

The cold spell hasn't really ended down here. As of yesterday the 13th we struggled to make it to 7C and it was already frosty by midnight. Looking ahead the mild weather keeps getting downgraded and I now see we have highs of 6C forecast later in the week. The Weeknd gone was supposed to be having temperatures into the low teens. Saturday 6C Sunday 7C both nights frosty. 

The winter so far has 2008/09 vibes about it down here. We haven't seen quite the low overnight temperatures that winter had.. yet.

February 2009 delivered some decent snow for some down here, Portsmouth even had a dusting 😂

Originally Posted by: picturesareme 

It never really got going here.

After a deposit from the 'slush puppy', thanks Jiries, the frosts were no more than a hiccup here.


Vale of the Great Dairies

South Dorset

Elevation 60m 197ft

Tuesday, January 14, 2025 9:22:21 AM
There are still a couple of tiny icy snow patches on the ground in the garden here, which is amazing considering how light the original covering was. Also, I have some rocks stacked in a shady spot near the pond from which the snow had disappeared yesterday, except for one which still has a thin layer of frozen snow on its surface. It must be a different material to all the others, which I think are York stone. Looks very odd
Jason

Salfords, Surrey

Jiries
Tuesday, January 14, 2025 9:34:26 AM
[quote defaultattr=]It never really got going here.

After a deposit from the 'slush puppy', thanks Jiries, the frosts were no more than a hiccup here.

In the 1980's we get very cold clear sunny HP moving in after the snow event that the sun natually thaw the snow out.  Nowadays HP become a pest with overcast skies and milder temps instead of deep cold.  Complete waste of time the low temps in Scotland which still hit very mild temps quickly.  No point to get excited with -18.9C knowing it will not stay long but straight back to 9-10C day or night temps thanks to the winter killer HP for that.

I also refused to go to a hill to see the snow, not right for this country which is technically a cold country which you should expect snow at your doorstep every winter.   For Nicosia where I lived before does not have snow but go to the mountain to see it it acceptable as the nature of the country is a hot country technically.

Saint Snow
Tuesday, January 14, 2025 10:46:43 AM
My snowman's body is clinging on. When I got home yesterday, it's head looked like it'd had that Beetlejuice head-shrinking powder sprinkled on it. It's totally disappeared now.

There's also the two snow piles made from clearing the drive. They're still in situ.


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lanky
Tuesday, January 14, 2025 11:09:23 AM
Not a single snowflake round here during the whole event but plenty of cold rain and cloudy days so I was tempted to go for 0/10 but last Saturdays frostfest and unbroken sunshine was a treat so I have elevated to 2/10

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Martin

Richmond, Surrey

Jiries
Tuesday, January 14, 2025 11:17:30 AM

My snowman's body is clinging on. When I got home yesterday, it's head looked like it'd had that Beetlejuice head-shrinking powder sprinkled on it. It's totally disappeared now.

There's also the two snow piles made from clearing the drive. They're still in situ.

Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 

My relatives in Toronto told me some stay to June or early July from the snow piles as they reach several meters high during the winter to finish by summer,  Nat happening anymore with the global warming effecting Toronto hard more like part time snow and part time mild days so hard for snow pilles to build up high again.

fairweather
Tuesday, January 14, 2025 11:25:03 AM
I'm near Darren and my views are similar really. It is what it is. We are far enough into this century now to know that climate change is current, not predicted, and our nostalgia of the second half of last century is pointless. At least people like myself probably won't get the sniping of apparently seeing those times through rose tinted glasses!

So by this centuries standards I would give it 6 out of 10. Snow was poor but even then I hadn't expected the rain to turn to snow in the night as it did for a while. But the hoar frosts and blue skies were a sight to see. It made things brighter and more cheerful. We also had a sub -5C minimum and close to an ice day which is rare enough to gain some credit. But the biggest change here in recent winters is the perpetual cloud and greyness so to get some clear skies was wonderful.

 There is no doubt that the Eastern side of the Country is often milder than the west these days and has changed the most due to lack of genuinely cold easterlies. Places like Newcastle and Durham used to be the places we were envious of but not now.

I think Scotland and parts of the north will still get decent snowfalls which is probably why they tend to see the same charts more optimistically than the southerners who know only too well what the reality will be for them irrespective of what the charts might be showing 😥


S.Essex, 42m ASL
MRazzell
Tuesday, January 14, 2025 2:08:01 PM
Overall not a bad spell here in Northern E-Sussex.

The snow fell slushy wednesday night but accumulated nicely before freezing over 24hrs later on thursday night. Since then the weather has been settled, cold and clear. The snow persisted on the ground at home and the surrounding hills until yesterday afternoon and some cracking icy walks were had over the weekend (Ashdown Forest on sunday was incredibly icy and picturesque) - Its not often we get it cold enough for frozen puddles to hold my weight, so thats become a new benchmark for me. 

Its now seamlessly reverted to cool but sunny, calm and clear conditions, so a good 'breakdown' too.

On the basis that in our ever warming world we can only really expect one of these spells per year, if we're lucky, i'd give this a 6.5/10.

Marks would be increased if the snow had accumulated better on cold ground, rather than being wet, with further marks if we'd had a bit more. No ice days, technically, so no additional points here although it did struggle to get much above freezing over the weekend. Also, no topping up of the snow, which would have been nice. Finally, the snow here was really localised and being fairly high up we did quite well (150m asl), but literally 500yards down the hill at perhaps 80-100m elevation there was little/no snow, so reduced marks on this basis too.


Far north of East Sussex. +150m asl.
tierradelfuego
Tuesday, January 14, 2025 4:33:33 PM
Probably a 5/10 here I would say, albeit it was the most snow I had seen for a couple of years.

We were lucky being on the hill for the Wednesday event with an inch of snow, so nothing remarkable, but nice all the same and it did last until Sunday. Down the hill there was hardly any snow though so the 70m difference in elevation in 2km helped a lot. 

We had a couple of days with a 0.3c max so close to an ice day and it was certainly nice to be able to walk on frozen ground rather than the muddy mess it normally is up here on clay. I actually just walked in my trail running shoes which was a luxury from the normal welly walk.

Certainly great to see some lovely sunny crisp days without a nagging breeze to chill you to the bone.


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West Berkshire Downs AONB

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Jiries
Tuesday, January 14, 2025 5:13:55 PM

Probably a 5/10 here I would say, albeit it was the most snow I had seen for a couple of years.

We were lucky being on the hill for the Wednesday event with an inch of snow, so nothing remarkable, but nice all the same and it did last until Sunday. Down the hill there was hardly any snow though so the 70m difference in elevation in 2km helped a lot. 

We had a couple of days with a 0.3c max so close to an ice day and it was certainly nice to be able to walk on frozen ground rather than the muddy mess it normally is up here on clay. I actually just walked in my trail running shoes which was a luxury from the normal welly walk.

Certainly great to see some lovely sunny crisp days without a nagging breeze to chill you to the bone.

tierradelfuego wrote:

What those AONB mean?  I passed that every week when I used to go to Royal Mail work via M40 on National Express and stunning hills over there and views when coming long way down hill facing West.

doctormog
Tuesday, January 14, 2025 5:21:17 PM

What those AONB mean?  I passed that every week when I used to go to Royal Mail work via M40 on National Express and stunning hills over there and views when coming long way down hill facing West.

Originally Posted by: Jiries 

Area of Outstanding Natural Beauty.


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