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Brian Gaze
Friday, January 10, 2025 7:47:34 AM
Share your thoughts on the cold spell from the first third of January 2025 in this thread. Feel free to also rate it out of ten!

My view

Very disappointing! It's easy to wallow in nostalgia and discuss cold spells from days gone, but this one really did NOT deliver in my locality. That said, the snow on Saturday, 4th January was nice to see. Also, after a frost free (100%) December, temperatures dipped towards -5°C , which is quite low by recent standards. However, if the two disturbances had taken slightly different tracks my view would probably have been different. 

Score

4/10 

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Friday, January 10, 2025 7:58:32 AM
2/10. It's January, after all, and although this part of the South Coast has seen a few white frosts (which is more than some recent Januaries), snow has been scanty and that only on the highest ground. As a cold spell, it would have passed unnoticed in the 20th century
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johncs2016
Friday, January 10, 2025 8:14:49 AM
There may well have been a little bit of snow on the southern outskirts of Edinburgh during this spell but what fell here in NW Edinburgh was mostly rain with a little bit of sleet and wet snow mixed in at times thanks to the influence of the North Sea and although we had a big snow event from Storm Bert at the end of the autumn back in November, this winter is sill completely snow free here which is very disappointing when you consider that we're now almost halfway through the winter.

We have been doing fairly well with air frosts though within this cold spell and this means that we have already had more air frosts in this month than what we had in the whole of December even though we're not even halfway through the month yet but although the temperature dropped to -8°C at Edinburgh Airport last night to give us our coldest night for over two years, the overnight temperatures have generally been not all that far below freezing.

During the day, the temperatures have been no different from what we could expect from a typical cold spell in the heart of winter but at no time have we even come close to getting any ice days here within this spell of weather which is also very disappointing.

Taking all of that into consideration, I have to give this cold spell no more than 3 out of 10 and it was only last night's colder temperatures which have saved it from getting even less than that.


The north of Edinburgh, usually always missing out on snow events which occur not just within the rest of Scotland or the UK, but also within the rest of Edinburgh.

NMA
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Friday, January 10, 2025 8:16:34 AM
2/10. Only because we've had some frosts. To watch the local Echo run a live feed on the recent snow was an embarrassment.

That said, the temp is 0C as I type this and a fragment of slush remains on a pot outside the office.

Is it the lack of a midwinter Scandinavian High as others have pointed out? But why this has become normal in recent years hasn't been explained in clear layman language.


Vale of the Great Dairies

South Dorset

Elevation 60m 197ft

Tim A
Friday, January 10, 2025 1:00:52 PM
8/10 for me. 

It is rare to get deep snow that sticks around for over a week (likely 9 days of snow cover if we manage till Monday morning).  Low temps down to -5c and -6c which is very low for here. 

It has caused chaos , side roads are only really improving today,  children have had one snow day, one late start and been pulled to school on sledges the rest of the week as it's easier than walking on the snow/ice.  They have loved it.  The landscape looks magical. 

22cm cumulative accumulation.  16cm Sunday, it then turned to rain, then back to snow Sunday night another 6cm, then back to light rain before fizzling out.    When it was raining the temp was so low that it didn't really melt much, but caused bumpy snow surface with depths varying, presumably as the rain found ways of getting through the snow.  There was lots of rain, rain gauge is at 50mm now from the event Max snow depth 15-20cm. 

From Monday morning onwards as the system cleared and the dewpoints cleared any slow thaw stopped Since then everything has been deeply frozen, there is still snow in hedges/roofs and loads on the ground making for an alpine feel.  14-18cm snow still on the grass. 

We had a bonus CM on Tuesday which freshened everything up, always nice to get snow on snow. 

To score it a 10, if the snow hadn't turned to rain for any of the period and we had ended up with a massive total such as 50cm.  I think that scenerio was fairly close.  Somewhere like Greenhow Hill in Harrogate seems to have experienced that. 

This winter was looking poor in terms of long term forecasts, but it only needs a low in the right place and then a southern jet to get a classic week!

Hope these images work now?

Sunday

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Snow shower on Tuesday:

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State of the roads still on Wednesday (LBA in background)

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Today lunchtime:

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Tim

NW Leeds

187m asl

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Friday, January 10, 2025 1:46:40 PM
what cold spell?
Berkshire
Saint Snow
Friday, January 10, 2025 1:57:57 PM
Quick summary:

Saturday night into Sunday morning - several hours of light-moderate snow, but it was a bit wet and only a 4-5cm covering

Sunday afternoon & evening - sleety rain; washed snow away from roads & pavements; snow survived on some grass and cars

Sunday night into Monday - the back-edge snow left 2cm on surfaces that still had snow, a cm on bare grass, thin slither of slush on roads/pavements

Monday night - a cm of snow/graupel mix on all surfaces. This had frozen by morning, along with the remnants of the slush

Tuesday - few snow and sleety-snow showers 

Wednesday morning - period of heavy snow )convective shower stream off the Irish Sea) but down a good 2cm of powdery snow

Wednesday night - hard frost (-5c)

Thursday - temp struggled to get above freezing all day. 

Friday - after another hard frost (-6c) with rime on trees, snow still in situ with no melting. Sun came out and has burned off the rime and snow on rooftops - but not on the ground.

Plusses

The Saturday night snow gave the deepest snow here since Boxing Day 2014.

Despite rain on Sunday, we've had snow cover on most surfaces since Saturday night with frequent top-ups

My snowman (and drive-clearance snow pile) have survived 

The Thursday/Friday period has been a winter wonderland with powdery snow everywhere and some hard frosts

The misty/murky conditions have been so atmospheric

Minuses:

If that low would have stayed just a hundred miles to the south on Sunday, we'd have had a serious amount of snow 

Just literally 2 miles south of my house had double the level of snow come Monday morning - which has survived all week. It's not at any higher altitude (maybe 10m higher)

The sun has come out today, melting the rime off the trees (that added a huge amount of magic to the scene) and rooftops, and ruining chances of an ice day.

The max snow depth of 4-5cm is pretty 'meh' - and that was only for a few hours before rain moved in 

Overall:

The best winter spell since 2013 for MBY - but the competition was pretty poor.

Not remotely in the same league as the Dec 09/Jan 10/Dec 10 spells

7/10


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NMA
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Friday, January 10, 2025 2:02:01 PM
One good image Tim but the rest Error 404 when I try to make them bigger by opening in new tab.
Vale of the Great Dairies

South Dorset

Elevation 60m 197ft

Taylor1740
Friday, January 10, 2025 2:08:55 PM
8/10 here as we have had lying snow on the ground for 7 straight days and it has been a genuinely cold spell here with the mean temp around 0.5c for Jan so far here plus the clear sunny days have been nice. Appreciate for the rest of the country it hasn't been that great but for here probably best cold spell since 2013 which tells you how poor the last 10 years have been for winter weather.
NW Leeds - 150m amsl
Retron
Friday, January 10, 2025 2:21:36 PM

One good image Tim but the rest Error 404 when I try to make them bigger by opening in new tab.

Originally Posted by: NMA 

It seems postimg.cc also deletes images after a short time, annoyingly. Best use the TWO gallery for weather-related photos, I guess!

(No rating from me on the cold spell yet as it's still ongoing. I'll post mine once it's finished).


Leysdown, north Kent
Chichesterweatherfan2
Friday, January 10, 2025 3:18:02 PM
I’d give it 3 out of 10….more generous than Dew’s 2 out of 10!! mainly because we have had a couple of beautiful frosts and 2 days with clear blue skies…and my garden thermometer got down to minus 6 …early in the spell….which is very rare for this south coast location…plus I got up to the Trundle, our local hill to see some snow! Other than that, very disappointing…and as others have mentioned, more evidence of the impact of  the warming climate and the diminishing chances of snow in our location….having seen amazing pictures of snow in the Cairngormsand N Yorkshire Dales and the Lakes  it must have been an excellent winter spell for those areas…and no doubt others too.
Chunky Pea
Friday, January 10, 2025 4:41:50 PM
Poor. 3/10. 

Some nice, frosty icy vistas at times, with one 'ice day' recorded,  but minima very unremarkable. Low of just -4.1c, There was lower in the general region (-7.6c in Athenry, just outside of Galway City for example) but such temps seemed very localised. 


Patrick,

East Galway, Ireland.

JOHN NI
Friday, January 10, 2025 7:58:09 PM
I’d say a decent cold ‘snap’ across Northern Ireland though ‘normal’ by historical standards. Snowcover was variable depending on exposure to snow showers, the bulk of these in the north and west where 2 to 5 cm locally and 10-15cm on mountains. Hard frosts for a few nights but only -7C as a minimum. Freezing fog all day on Wednesday 8th when many inland areas had a sub-zero day which certainly is rare nowadays. So 6/10 overall.
John.

The orange County of Armagh.

Ally Pally Snowman
Friday, January 10, 2025 8:52:00 PM
Very disappointing here. About 3 or 4cm of snow fell in the middle of the night and had completely melted by 1pm the next day. That's it. 1/10
Bishop's Stortford 85m ASL.
scillydave
Friday, January 10, 2025 9:51:28 PM
One of the more frustrating cold spells of recent times because it had so much potential. I saw no laying snow at my location though roughly 50m higher up on the highest parts of the Vale there was a slushy covering twice.

Had the temperatures been a degree or so lower that slush would've been a snowy memorable event for all.

Add to that settling snow to the North and to the South just across thd Bristol channel and it leaves a bitter taste here.

We've had 3 of 4 frosts but when that's the highlight of your 10 day cold spell along with a few slushy flakes in the wind then you know things are bad.

1 out of 10 here.


Currently living at roughly 65m asl North of Cowbridge in the Vale of Glamorgan.

Formerly of, Birdlip, highest village in the Cotswolds and snow heaven in winter; Hawkinge in Kent - roof of the South downs and Isles of Scilly, paradise in the UK.

doctormog
Friday, January 10, 2025 10:04:06 PM
It is a decent cold spell here. Today is day 9 of total pristine snow cover. Tte cold has been persistent rather than deeply cold although having said that the snow is dry, crisp and solid in places . Walking in the compressed snow covered white footpaths in the city this evening made me think of scenes from Canada. It has snowed most days here meaning that the cover still looks fresh and bright, in fact this evening it was sparkling in the moonlight. One more cold day and then a steady thaw under benign conditions will be a nice ending.

All in all a decent spell here and across much of the northern half of Scotland. I’d give it 8 out of 10.


roadrunnerajn
Friday, January 10, 2025 10:11:37 PM
0 out of 10

It’s been cold yes but raw grey with heavy rain. 70mm in fact that’s 15 more than the whole of December. Temperatures by day between 3 and 6c with too much cloud cover and breeze we only just managed one air frost.

I don’t expect too much down here but this was just miserable.


Germoe, part of the breakaway Celtic Republic. 80m asl
Crepuscular Ray
Saturday, January 11, 2025 12:05:29 PM
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Jerry

Edinburgh, in the frost hollow below Blackford Hill

Brian Gaze
Saturday, January 11, 2025 2:36:11 PM
I've added a number of photos to the TWO image gallery. They can be viewed here

https://www.theweatheroutlook.com/twoother/sky-eye-gallery.aspx?user=Brian%20Gaze 


Brian Gaze

Berkhamsted

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The Beast from the East
Saturday, January 11, 2025 2:39:23 PM

what cold spell?

Originally Posted by: The Dub Version 

LOL

Actually today and yesterday have felt like it used to in the 80s.  Much better than the wet melting snow bollox we had last Sat and Wed. 

Shame its ending, though hope next week high can set up in a way that gives some faux cold inversion.


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idj20
Saturday, January 11, 2025 2:52:51 PM
I wouldn't call it that memorable. Yes, managed an overnight air frost in past two nights and had numb hands when I rode my pushbike yesterday, but I'd class it as a typical chilly spell IMBY. Still, this weekend (so far) is a vast improvement with winter sunshine  when compared to last weekend's miserably wet and windy conditions. In terms of snowfalls - 0/10. But in terms of being a change from the norm, 5/10 and that's being generous.
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Bolty
Saturday, January 11, 2025 4:12:25 PM
Overall a decent cold spell, with a notable snowy spell last Sunday, and snow falling on five consecutive days. In terms of temperatures, it hasn't actually been that notable around here. They've been very bog-standard for a cold spell and not particularly exceptional.

The daily maximum and minimum, as well as measureable precipitation, for January so far for my weather station, have been:

DateMaxMinPrecip.
01/017.7–0.433.0
02/011.8–3.20.1
03/014.8–2.03.0
04/012.8–0.23.5
05/012.2–0.318.3
06/013.9–0.212.3
07/012.1–1.02.1
08/011.2–2.00.3
09/011.3–6.70.1
10/013.2–5.80.1


Scott

Blackrod, Lancashire (4 miles south of Chorley) at 156m asl.

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Brian Gaze
Saturday, January 11, 2025 5:05:11 PM

Overall a decent cold spell, with a notable snowy spell last Sunday, and snow falling on five consecutive days. In terms of temperatures, it hasn't actually been that notable around here. They've been very bog-standard for a cold spell and not particularly exceptional.

The daily maximum and minimum, as well as measureable precipitation, for January so far for my weather station, have been:

DateMaxMinPrecip.
01/017.7–0.433.0
02/011.8–3.20.1
03/014.8–2.03.0
04/012.8–0.23.5
05/012.2–0.318.3
06/013.9–0.212.3
07/012.1–1.02.1
08/011.2–2.00.3
09/011.3–6.70.1
10/013.2–5.80.1

Originally Posted by: Bolty 

Not your fault. For some reason it sometimes puts loads of extra break tags in. I put a quick fix in which should help, but may cause other issues.


Brian Gaze

Berkhamsted

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Saturday, January 11, 2025 6:56:16 PM
I was going to give this spell a 3 but after a lovely walk with the dog and one of my daughters this morning I'll give it a 4/10. Two small snowfalls and a few nights at -5 or below isn't too bad. Last Saturday's snow came down heavily enough to make for a tricky journey home from Reigate and I had to clear the driveway upon our return so my daughters boyfriend could get his car up the slope. It was never meant to last and was all washed away by morning. Must have had a lot of rain that night as the local stream nearly breached the road for the second time in a month. Shame it didn't stay cold as it would have been a huge fall of snow.

Wednesday's fall was light but gave a covering, patches of which are still surviving in shady spots thanks to the low temperatures. This morning's walk, after a very cold night down to -8, was interesting. The normally boggy local common was frozen solid with the usual puddles on the grass transformed into sheets of clear ice. The woodland paths were crunchy and springy where the leaf litter and underlying mud has frozen. Every fallen tree (lots of ash sadly) and branch were still decorated with a thin layer of snow amongst the otherwise dark surroundings. Water still flowing out of fields onto the farm track had formed a lethal sheet of ice a good few metres long.

Not the best cold spell I've ever known but decent enough. We've had one spell like this for each of the past three winters. Perhaps next year can bring a memorable freeze


Jason

Salfords, Surrey

Quantum
Sunday, January 12, 2025 7:42:24 AM
Its an odd one. I saw alot of snow on Sunday, more than I've seen for years. But 90% of it was gone by Monday. But the other 10% is still there even now. In terms of longevity of mean low temperatures its been unusual. Yet neither the maxima (hovering around 0-2 with not a single ice day) nor the minima (around -5) have been in any way exceptional. The exceptional part was longevity of the coldness and preservation of frozen surfaces for an entire week which unfortunately has been unusual.

As such I have to give this an above average rating. So I'm forced almost by default to give it a 6/10. No ice days, no extreme low temperatures, only 1 day of snow. Yet somehow its still the best I've seen for years.


25/26 (850hpa temp) 11 days snow/sleet falling

18/11 (-4) 19/11 (-6) 20/11 (-6) 01/01 (-7) 04/01 (-10) 10/01 (-7) 11/01 (-3) 30/01 (-1) 13/02 (-6) 15/02 (-4) 18/02 (-6)

24/25 10d

18/11 (-6) 19/11 (-6) 23/11 (-2) 22/12 (-5) 04/01 (-5) 05/01 (0)14/02 (0) 15/02 (0)12/03 (-6) 13/03 (-6)

23/24 8d

29/11 (-6) 30/11 (-6) 02/12 (-5) 03/12 (-5) 04/12 (-3) 16/01 (-3) 18/01 (-8)08/02 (-5)

22/23 7d

18/12 (-1)06/03 (-6) 08/03 (-8) 09/03 (-6) 10/03 (-8) 11/03 (-5) 14/03 (-6)

21/22 12d

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