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johncs2016
01 November 2023 07:38:10
Since we have now just entered into yet another new month (which in this instance, is the final month of the meteorological autumn), it is now time for another new thread.

This has been a very wet autumn here in Edinburgh and regardless of what happens during this month, this autumn looks certain to be wetter than average and probably substantially so (although this autumn is only actually going to go down as our first wetter than average season of this year).

The only question remaining is whether or not, this month itself will be wetter than average and that will be determine whether or not we end up with all three autumn months being wetter than average.

In fact, it is already raining here, even as I write. Up until 9am GMT (09:00 UTC) this morning, that will still be part of October's rainfall, so more details of what falls up until then will be published on October's thread along with the final rainfall figures for that month.

However, this rain is forecast to continue until possibly up until lunchtime and so, it is not likely to be long before I have something to report here for this month.

The reason why I go by that 9z to 9z observation day is because that is traditionally how that is done at the Met Office, but I am aware that not everyone will go by that. Indeed, some people who don't go by that way of defining their official observation day may therefore, already have something to report for this month and so, I have started this thread just now so that you can now do so.
 
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01 November 2023 09:21:57
The water table in the chalk Downs has risen by 16m in the past week, from 38 to 54m asl. Another 16m will bring the level to the surface at Chilgrove with roads flooded and closed - quite possible, given the forecast.
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johncs2016
01 November 2023 13:39:29
The latest rainfall data for Edinburgh Gogarbank and the botanic gardens in Edinburgh are as follows:

Data For Recent Days

24 Hour Total up to 9am GMT (09:00 UTC) this morning: 10.2 mm at Edinburgh Gogarbank, along with 7.8 mm at the botanic gardens in Edinburgh.

Total since 9am GMT (09:00 UTC) this morning: 3.8 mm at Edinburgh Gogarbank along with 6.8 mm at the botanic gardens in Edinburgh (as at 1:00pm GMT (13:00 UTC) this afternoon on Wednesday 1 November 2023).

Monthly Data

Total for this month so far: 3.8 mm (5.2% of 1991-2020 November average) at Edinburgh Gogarbank along with 6.8 mm (10.4% of 1991-2020 November average) at the Botanic Gardens in Edinburgh.

Number of rain days during this month so far: 1 (7.8% of 1991-2020 November average) at Edinburgh Gogarbank along with 1 (8.5% of 1991-2020 November average) at the Botanic Gardens in Edinburgh.

Number of dry days during this month so far: 0 at Edinburgh Gogarbank along with 0 at the Botanic Gardens in Edinburgh.

Seasonal Data

Total for this autumn so far: 207.6 mm (98.2% of 1991-2020 autumn average) at Edinburgh Gogarbank along with 209.4 mm (106.9% of 1991-2020 autumn average) at the Botanic Gardens in Edinburgh.

Number of rain days during this autumn so far: 28 (76.9% of 1991-2020 autumn average) at Edinburgh Gogarbank along with 28 (83.9% of 1991-2020 autumn average) at the Botanic Gardens in Edinburgh.

Number of dry days during this autumn so far: 26 at Edinburgh Gogarbank along with 28 at the Botanic Gardens in Edinburgh.

This means that only at least another 3.8 mm of rain now needs to fall at Edinburgh Gogarbank between now and the end of this month in order for this autumn to go down as being wetter than average there in terms of the actual amounts.

However, more rain has now fallen at the botanic gardens in Edinburgh during this autumn than the 1991-2020 autumn average and so regardless of what happens between now and the end of this month, this autumn will go down as being wetter than average in terms of the actual rainfall amounts.

Annual Data

Total for this year so far: 578.2 mm (73.7% of annual average) at Edinburgh Gogarbank along with 607.6 mm (83.5% of annual average) at the botanic gardens in Edinburgh.

Number of rain days during this year so far: 103 (74.9% of annual average) at Edinburgh Gogarbank along with 106 (82.7% of annual average) at the botanic gardens in Edinburgh.

Number of dry days during this year so far: 157 at Edinburgh Gogarbank along with 148 at the botanic gardens in Edinburgh.

Note

This data has been obtained from the Scottish Environmental Protection Agency (SEPA) by using a beta version of their latest upcoming API system.
 
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ARTzeman
01 November 2023 15:16:18
3.3 mm with a downpour and a flash of lightning accompanied by a crash of thunder.....




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sunny coast
02 November 2023 06:24:50
27 mm already 
Tim A
02 November 2023 08:22:20
21mm (from 00.00 Nov 1st).
 
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speckledjim
02 November 2023 15:42:47
9mm 
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johncs2016
02 November 2023 15:47:01
The latest rainfall data for Edinburgh Gogarbank and the botanic gardens in Edinburgh are as follows:

Data For Recent Days

24 Hour Total up to 9am GMT (09:00 UTC) this morning: 4.6 mm at Edinburgh Gogarbank, along with 7.8 mm at the botanic gardens in Edinburgh.

Total since 9am GMT (09:00 UTC) this morning: 5.4 mm at Edinburgh Gogarbank along with 8.6 mm at the botanic gardens in Edinburgh (as at 3:00pm GMT (15:00 UTC) this afternoon on Thursday 2 November 2023).

Since I first started to compose this report, it has started raining here yet again, so there are likely to be further additions to those totals before the end of the current official observation day.

Monthly Data

Total for this month so far: 10.0 mm (13.6% of 1991-2020 November average) at Edinburgh Gogarbank along with 16.4 mm (25.1% of 1991-2020 November average) at the Botanic Gardens in Edinburgh.

Number of rain days during this month so far: 2 (15.6% of 1991-2020 November average) at Edinburgh Gogarbank along with 2 (17.1% of 1991-2020 November average) at the Botanic Gardens in Edinburgh.

Number of dry days during this month so far: 0 at Edinburgh Gogarbank along with 0 at the Botanic Gardens in Edinburgh.

Seasonal Data

Total for this autumn so far: 213.8 mm (101.1% of 1991-2020 autumn average) at Edinburgh Gogarbank along with 219.0 mm (111.8% of 1991-2020 autumn average) at the Botanic Gardens in Edinburgh.

Number of rain days during this autumn so far: 29 (79.7% of 1991-2020 autumn average) at Edinburgh Gogarbank along with 29 (86.9% of 1991-2020 autumn average) at the Botanic Gardens in Edinburgh.

Number of dry days during this autumn so far: 26 at Edinburgh Gogarbank along with 29 at the Botanic Gardens in Edinburgh.

This means that more rain has now fallen at Edinburgh Gogarbank during this autumn than the 1991-2020 autumn average and so regardless of what happens between now and the end of this month, this autumn will go down as being wetter than average there in terms of the actual rainfall amounts.

In addition to that, only at least another 5 rain days now need to be recorded at the botanic gardens in Edinburgh between now and the end of this month in order for this autumn to go down as being wetter than average there in terms of the number of rain days.

Annual Data

Total for this year so far: 584.4 mm (74.5% of annual average) at Edinburgh Gogarbank along with 617.2 mm (84.8% of annual average) at the botanic gardens in Edinburgh.

Number of rain days during this year so far: 104 (75.7% of annual average) at Edinburgh Gogarbank along with 107 (83.4% of annual average) at the botanic gardens in Edinburgh.

Number of dry days during this year so far: 157 at Edinburgh Gogarbank along with 148 at the botanic gardens in Edinburgh.

Note

This data has been obtained from the Scottish Environmental Protection Agency (SEPA) by using a beta version of their latest upcoming API system.
 
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Rob K
02 November 2023 18:25:22
15mm today and 30mm for the month, based on the Blackbushe station which I suspect under-reads (based on the amount of water around this morning, I would say there was a fair bit more than that overnight).
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02 November 2023 19:11:56
37mm the max for the S at Middle Wallop on Salisbury Plain, according to BBC South
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speckledjim
03 November 2023 09:09:36
12.8mm
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fairweather
03 November 2023 10:32:18
New record non-summer daily rainfall here yesterday. 31.7mm. 4th highest since I started recording in 2008.
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04 November 2023 08:39:51
Daily rainfall in the Downs at Chilgrove for the last week in mm; 31.1, 32.5, 2.3, 14.1, 20.1, 19.8, 1.1 (total 121mm, raining quite heavily now and plenty forecast in the next week).

Level of groundwater (m above sea level); 44.0, 46.3, 54.3, 58.4, 59.8, 61.0, 64.5. { 20.1m rise in a week) EDIT now 66.6 midday Sat

There's a day or two's delay while the water works its way down. It's noticeable from the chart below that during a wet spell in summer (e.g. at the start of July) while the ground is not saturated and plants are in full growth, there is no discernible effect on the water table. In the preceding two weeks to the above rainfall totalled about 170mm which did a preliminary saturation of the ground, enough to raise the water table by a mere 10m. But now there's no holding it!

The most critical figure is a water table at 75m, i.e. surface level  at Chilgrove, when water just comes out of the ground everywhere, roads through the Downs are deep in water; and villages, if not actually cut off, quite often only have one road for access. There should be no difficulty in reaching this level in 7-10days' time given the forecast, despite a brief dry spell early next week.

https://sites.google.com/view/groundwatergraphs/home/groundwater-data/sussex/chilgrove-west-dean-to-east-dean-chilgrove 
(A more detailed graph with choice of dates to display is at the bottom but takes  a minute or two to load)

 
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sunny coast
04 November 2023 08:49:09

Daily rainfall in the Downs at Chilgrove for the last week in mm; 31.1, 32.5, 2.3, 14.1, 20.1, 19.8, 1.1 (total 121mm, raining quite heavily now and plenty forecast in the next week).

Level of groundwater (m above sea level); 44.0, 46.3, 54.3, 58.4, 59.8, 61.0, 64.5. { 20.1m rise in a week)

There's a day or two's delay while the water works its way down. It's noticeable from the chart below that during a wet spell in summer (e.g. at the start of July) while the ground is not saturated and plants are in full growth, there is no discernible effect on the water table. But now ...

The most critical figure is a water table at 75m, i.e. surface level when water just comes out of the ground everywhere, roads through the Downs are deep in water; and villages, if not actually cut off, quite often only have one road for access. There should be no difficulty in reaching this level in 7-10days' time given the forecast, despite a brief dry spell early next week.

https://sites.google.com/view/groundwatergraphs/home/groundwater-data/sussex/chilgrove-west-dean-to-east-dean-chilgrove 
(A more detailed graph with choice of dates to display is at the bottom but takes  a minute or two to load)


Its similar at rhis end of the Downs . Already 55mm at nearby Willingdon at the foot of the Downs since 1 Nov   More than 12 inches now since 11 Oct  extraordinary and could be a wetter 30 day period than last Nov 

 

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sunny coast
04 November 2023 12:55:06
Further torrential downpours this morning coming in off the Channel  bringing total up to 76mm here already.  More localised flooding this morning 
ARTzeman
04 November 2023 13:20:57
12.91 mm. Today 56 mm weekly. 




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Gusty
04 November 2023 20:40:15
Incredibly wet.

68.2mm for the month so far.

Add this to the 165mm that fell in last 18 days of October brings the total to a staggering 233mm in little over 3 weeks. 
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04 November 2023 20:49:08
Another 19.5mm today, total for November 60.5mm [Chilgrove]
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idj20
04 November 2023 21:09:42
Today has been a true soaker of a day with 46.4 mm, flooding in lots of locations but thankfully my house sits on a mound on an incline so I don't get to have any pooling around my house. This is on top of 10.2 mm, 15.4 mm, 7.4 mm, 9.2 mm, 9.0 mm, 16.8 mm, 42 mm, 16 mm and 5 mm in the past few days respectively.

A very soggy spell of weather, hope that doesn't set the precedence for this coming Winter but signs are things will become less wet from here on. 

Update: Just reached the 50 mm mark and still climbing.

Update again: 60 mm! And still pouring down.

Another update: 70!! With just 5 minutes until my next station reset.The road below me where the night club is is getting flooded out.

 
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sunny coast
05 November 2023 06:43:24
Nearly 60 mm up to midnight last night  so we dawn 5 Nov already having just topped 100mm this month  staggering when added to last month's staggering totals.  In less than a month we have had 360 mm which is a clear record here for such a short period 
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