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warrenb
27 September 2023 11:11:39
Not sure what all the fuss is about down here in the SE.

Not a breath of wind, fog just cleared and sun coming out
Bolty
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27 September 2023 11:25:29
Nothing of note here just yet. Rain moved in off the Irish Sea in the last hour and it's moderately breezy so far. It looks like the supposed peak is early evening around here.
Scott
Blackrod, Lancashire (4 miles south of Chorley) at 156m asl.
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Tim A
27 September 2023 11:46:57
Not really supposed to effect us , the warning area is large but strong winds restricted to coastal parts and much further NW.
Looks like hardly any rain here and wind gusts staying below 40mph.
Tim
NW Leeds
187m asl

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Snowfall Winter 24/25: 18/11 5cm, 23/11 9cm, 22/12: dusting, 5/1 16cm, 6/1 6cm top-up , 7/1 1cm top-up.
ozone_aurora
27 September 2023 12:09:08
Nothing to note here in Sheffield; just cloudy with sporadic light rain and a gentle breeze.
Chunky Pea
27 September 2023 14:04:13
Down to 985.4mb here and falling fairly rapidly. What little wind there is is blowing from the SE  
East Galway, Ireland.
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Russwirral
27 September 2023 15:44:00
Been very benign here.. was windier the other week when we had strong long fetch south westerlies.  its occasionally gusty, and weve not had much rain at all, infact, with the breeze everything is bone dry
johncs2016
27 September 2023 16:37:14
The rainfall is very sporadic here, and has amounted to only around 1 to 2 mm here in Edinburgh in the last few hours.

That comes as no surprise as this storm was already forecast to be gradually filling by the time that it reached us, and this appears to have caused the main band of rain to break up and weaken slightly as it has got here.

As I write, the wind is still coming from the east here, and off the North Sea. That would suggest that the centre of this low is still to our south which means that I probably wouldn't expect the wind to pick up here until the low has moved further north with the wind switching direction as a result.

Having said that though, it is very dark out there just now. I know that we're past the Autumn Equinox now but even at that, it's still a bit early to getting as dark as this so early in the afternoon and evening (that is something which I wouldn't expect to be happening until well into October and just before the clocks change from BST back to GMT for the coming winter).
 
The north of Edinburgh, usually always missing out on snow events which occur not just within the rest of Scotland or the UK, but also within the rest of Edinburgh.
fairweather
27 September 2023 17:41:45
The BBC forecasts are a joke of late. Others on here are alluding to the fact that the storm isn't that bad, even where it was supposed to be. I know people used to complain about a S.E bias in the news, weather etc. which may have been justified but the over compensation with the weather forecasts is a joke. The 30 million people in the S.E and East Anglia don't exist! I realise the emphasis should be on the extreme end of the weather but September has been dry and generally not that windy here. Even tonight they have said more terrible storms coming in over the weekend with no mention of it being a northern event only. It was only when I saw the graphic for that little town of London showing sunshine and 22C that there was probably nothing too extreme here. Not a problem for the weather buffs but people coming up to me and saying how terrible it's going to be clearly aren't able to make the distinction!
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doctormog
27 September 2023 17:59:40
If it was meant to be that bad in the U.K. there would have been an amber weather warning surely? There hasn’t been one and that indicates the severity of it to me. It.’s wet and windy and was named by the Irish met office as the strongest impacts have been and were forecast to be there.  In the warning areas it has been wet and windy as forecast.

So yes it wet and windy but not worthy of an amber warning. Sounds like the Met Office called it about right and the BBC are focussing the forecast on the areas affected by the named storm. Not unusual nor unwarranted.
Bolty
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27 September 2023 18:13:37
Squall line passing through here just now, with very heavy rain and gusty winds.

It only lasted about two minutes but dropped 3mm of rain in that time.
Scott
Blackrod, Lancashire (4 miles south of Chorley) at 156m asl.
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johncs2016
27 September 2023 18:35:25

If it was meant to be that bad in the U.K. there would have been an amber weather warning surely? There hasn’t been one and that indicates the severity of it to me. It.’s wet and windy and was named by the Irish met office as the strongest impacts have been and were forecast to be there.  In the warning areas it has been wet and windy as forecast.

So yes it wet and windy but not worthy of an amber warning. Sounds like the Met Office called it about right and the BBC are focussing the forecast on the areas affected by the named storm. Not unusual nor unwarranted.

Originally Posted by: doctormog 


It's not very often that I need to correct you on anything but in this instance, I have no choice as it was the UK Met Office who actually named this storm, and not Met Eireann.

However, I do have to question the merit of whether not storms should actually be officially named by any agency without there being any amber (or orange in the case of Met Eireann) or higher warning given out by that particular agency for the event in question.
 
The north of Edinburgh, usually always missing out on snow events which occur not just within the rest of Scotland or the UK, but also within the rest of Edinburgh.
Chunky Pea
27 September 2023 18:47:05
MSLP bottomed out at 981.1mb just after 5pm and winds backed SE to the current westerly, suggesting that the absolute centre of the low tracked somewhere to the east of me. Winds no more than a tame breeze at anytime with a max gust of just 28 knots. 
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doctormog
27 September 2023 18:53:59

It's not very often that I need to correct you on anything but in this instance, I have no choice as it was the UK Met Office who actually named this storm, and not Met Eireann.

However, I do have to question the merit of whether not storms should actually be officially named by any agency without there being any amber (or orange in the case of Met Eireann) or higher warning given out by that particular agency for the event in question.
 

Originally Posted by: johncs2016 



I think you’re right and it is what I thought originally but they stated on the Reporting Scotland weather forecast that it had been named by Met Éireann (rather than the UK Met Office). It looks like that was a mistake. (https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m001r018/reporting-scotland-evening-news-27092023  25:20 in on the forecast for reference).

Met Éireann has/had however issued an orange warning for wind.
https://twitter.com/MetEireann/status/1707065347528966219  
Rob K
27 September 2023 19:08:45
Very benign here - the feared runner low seems not to have materialised and it's been a mostly dry day with some sunshine.
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doctormog
27 September 2023 19:15:02

Very benign here - the feared runner low seems not to have materialised and it's been a mostly dry day with some sunshine.

Originally Posted by: Rob K 



Was that not a possibility for tomorrow rather than today?

 
johncs2016
27 September 2023 19:20:16

I think you’re right and it is what I thought originally but they stated on the Reporting Scotland weather forecast that it had been named by Met Éireann (rather than the UK Met Office). It looks like that was a mistake. (https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m001r018/reporting-scotland-evening-news-27092023  25:20 in on the forecast for reference).

Met Éireann has/had however issued an orange warning for wind.
https://twitter.com/MetEireann/status/1707065347528966219  

Originally Posted by: doctormog 



It certainly was, and I can even confirm that here .

However, this seems to be a case where the Met Office should have left the actual naming of this storm to Met Éireann rather than actually naming it themselves, especially since they knew that this storm was already going to be in the process of filling by the time that it reached us here in the UK.

In the end though, that actually makes no difference at all to the fact that it still would have named as Storm Agnes anyway, even if it had been Met Éireann who had named it first.
 
The north of Edinburgh, usually always missing out on snow events which occur not just within the rest of Scotland or the UK, but also within the rest of Edinburgh.
ozone_aurora
27 September 2023 20:18:36
Currently quite blustery here in Sheffield with some showery rain.
Lionel Hutz
27 September 2023 20:41:15
As far as I know, storms can be named by any one of the UK met, Irish met or Dutch met. Today really just highlights the downside of that system. It's been a nasty enough storm in parts of Ireland, causing some damage, even if that damage was fairly localised, mainly affecting the South.

https://www.rte.ie/news/weather/2023/0927/1407538-weather-storm-agnes/ 

Even if the storm was no worse than we'd expect to see at least a couple of times a year here, it probably merited an orange warning. But you'd have to question the point of naming storms when it's pretty much a non event in so many areas.
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johncs2016
27 September 2023 21:21:17
Here in Edinburgh, we're getting a fairly decent amount of rain at times from this system which should at least be enough to prevent us from slipping back into the water scarcity situation which we were in recently.

However, this hasn't been the sort of persistent rain which we would typically get from these systems, and the rain has tended to come and go at various times.

As I write, one of these rain areas has cleared away, but there is another one close by to our SW which is looking likely to take its place fairly soon.

Nevertheless, the amounts of rain which we are getting from this system don't really look like amounting to anything more than what we have been getting recently from other systems within what was already going to go down as a wetter than average month here anyway.

The wind has now veered more towards the south here, but there are no real signs of it actually picking up here. However, the fact that the wind has only gone around to the south instead of going all the way round to the west or SW as would normally be the case with these systems is important here because that has clearly also drawn in some warmer air here.

That in turn, has resulted in the temperatures refusing to drop here, and going back up to around 16°C here in Edinburgh, even as late as 10pm BST (21:00 UTC) tonight.😡
The north of Edinburgh, usually always missing out on snow events which occur not just within the rest of Scotland or the UK, but also within the rest of Edinburgh.
Bolty
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27 September 2023 21:41:26
My time-lapse for today. Quite windy, especially in the evening, but I've seen much worse locally.

https://youtu.be/O58vzuwywCM 
Scott
Blackrod, Lancashire (4 miles south of Chorley) at 156m asl.
My weather station 
johncs2016
28 September 2023 00:37:20

My time-lapse for today. Quite windy, especially in the evening, but I've seen much worse locally.

https://youtu.be/O58vzuwywCM 

Originally Posted by: Bolty 



It's the same story here in Edinburgh as well.

The wind has now finally picked up a bit and switched around to the SW here which means that it's no longer coming in from off the North Sea, but we've had far noisier nights than this due to the wind which up until now, has yet to even gust up to 30mph at Edinburgh Gogarbank as I write.

Meanwhile, the rainfall has not only been very sporadic, but the heaviest downpours from this have been very localised as well.

As an example of that, there was quite a big downpour at around 10pm last night which produced a total of 6.0 mm of rain at Edinburgh Gogarbank just within that one single hour alone, yet that barely even registered at the botanic gardens in Edinburgh where only a measly 0.4 mm of rain was recorded during that same hour.

As I write, this rain has now become lighter and much patchier as it very slowly clears away.

Finally, the temperatures are still refusing to drop, and remain stuck at around 16°C as at 1am BST (0:00 UTC) this morning, so this has ended up being yet another ridiculously mild night for the time of year once again!!😡
The north of Edinburgh, usually always missing out on snow events which occur not just within the rest of Scotland or the UK, but also within the rest of Edinburgh.
johncs2016
28 September 2023 04:03:07
The maximum wind gust at Edinburgh Gogarbank eventually went on to peak at around 44 mph from the WSW but that is virtually nothing at all as far as named storms are concerned and that isn't even enough to make today our windiest day of this autumn.

Now, the wind is already dying down here again so in the end, I have to say that this wasn't really much of a "storm" here.

We have had 9.6 mm of rain from this particular event at Edinburgh Gogarbank according to the raw BUFR/SYNOP data but we have had far more rain than that from many of our past rain events and this isn't even enough to give us our wettest day of this autumn.

Furthermore, the amount of rain from that the botanic gardens in Edinburgh is even less than that at just 4.4 mm.
 
The north of Edinburgh, usually always missing out on snow events which occur not just within the rest of Scotland or the UK, but also within the rest of Edinburgh.
NMA
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28 September 2023 06:37:01

As far as I know, storms can be named by any one of the UK met, Irish met or Dutch met. Today really just highlights the downside of that system. It's been a nasty enough storm in parts of Ireland, causing some damage, even if that damage was fairly localised, mainly affecting the South.

https://www.rte.ie/news/weather/2023/0927/1407538-weather-storm-agnes/ 

Even if the storm was no worse than we'd expect to see at least a couple of times a year here, it probably merited an orange warning. But you'd have to question the point of naming storms when it's pretty much a non event in so many areas.

Originally Posted by: Lionel Hutz 


This recent ‘storm’ seems to bring the naming of these features into disrespect. I’ve never agreed with the idea of naming them in any case. Yesterday the BBC had a live feed all day but apart from what looked like a badly designed/built roof blowing off, some urban shallow rooted trees coming down and a video of an idiot ‘braving’ a flood what was the point they were trying to make of such continuous reporting? Then ‘The worse is yet to come’ later in the day when the system was in any case filling. They were almost it seems hoping  that Agnes to do her worst, or so it seemed on their blanket coverage.

Anyway unless you dig deeper there's little to see or read about Agnes this morning and what there is is really no more than normal boisterous autumnal weather.
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ozone_aurora
28 September 2023 08:40:19
The Sun looked unusual at approx 9.00 am. Noticeably dim and Copperish in colour, very sharply outlined, it looked like a sun in middle of Sahara. Must be some Sahara dust and/or wildfire smoke high up in the atmosphere. It looks normal now, whitish and blurred.
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28 September 2023 10:48:47

This recent ‘storm’ seems to bring the naming of these features into disrespect. I’ve never agreed with the idea of naming them in any case. Yesterday the BBC had a live feed all day but apart from what looked like a badly designed/built roof blowing off, some urban shallow rooted trees coming down and a video of an idiot ‘braving’ a flood what was the point they were trying to make of such continuous reporting? Then ‘The worse is yet to come’ later in the day when the system was in any case filling. They were almost it seems hoping  that Agnes to do her worst, or so it seemed on their blanket coverage.

Anyway unless you dig deeper there's little to see or read about Agnes this morning and what there is is really no more than normal boisterous autumnal weather.

Originally Posted by: NMA 

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The BBC are climate catastrophists and will seize on every opportunity to promote their agenda.


The Sun looked unusual at approx 9.00 am. Noticeably dim and Copperish in colour, very sharply outlined, it looked like a sun in middle of Sahara. Must be some Sahara dust and/or wildfire smoke high up in the atmosphere. It looks normal now, whitish and blurred.

Originally Posted by: ozone_aurora 


Matt Taylor on the current BBC website video forecast mentioned wildfire smoke in the atmosphere this morning.
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