Chidog
Tuesday, July 19, 2022 12:17:53 PM

All of the top 20 sites at 1pm are over 100F

Quantum
Tuesday, July 19, 2022 12:18:19 PM

I think the front is further west, that's why its warmer in the SE and colder in the NE. THe NE has more of a sea influence.


But it also means that in the next few hours as the front approches things will become ball blazing in the Lincs/Yorks area. This is still the place to watch, but it is delayed by an hour or so.


 


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2023/2024 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):
29/11 (-6), 30/11 (-6), 02/12 (-5), 03/12 (-5), 04/12 (-3), 16/01 (-3), 18/01 (-8), 08/02 (-5)

Total: 8 days with snow/sleet falling.

2022/2023 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

18/12 (-1), 06/03 (-6), 08/03 (-8), 09/03 (-6), 10/03 (-8), 11/03 (-5), 14/03 (-6)

Total: 7 days with snow/sleet falling.

2021/2022 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

26/11 (-5), 27/11 (-7), 28/11 (-6), 02/12 (-6), 06/01 (-5), 07/01 (-6), 06/02 (-5), 19/02 (-5), 24/02 (-7), 30/03 (-7), 31/03 (-8), 01/04 (-8)
Total: 12 days with snow/sleet falling.
nsrobins
Tuesday, July 19, 2022 12:19:05 PM

Originally Posted by: Russwirral 

Sad thing is, a few places will get 40 today..... but wont get a mention as its a case of first past the post that coubts , in a way


Surely the important thing is who records the max today not who was first. That’s the one that will be remembered.


Neil
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Heavy Weather 2013
Tuesday, July 19, 2022 12:19:08 PM
Grass fires breaking out in Croydon.
Mark
Beckton, E London
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Russwirral
Tuesday, July 19, 2022 12:19:25 PM

Originally Posted by: Matty H 

Absolutely staggering

Just sit and reflect for a moment. Think yourself back to June. Moomin claiming summer was over etc…

But that aside, just think back to then. If someone had told you the UK was going to smash 40c this summer or any summer soon you’d have probably thought they were nuts

We’ve had such a long and well modelled (important to mention that) build up to this it almost feels normal. It’s not. It’s deeply concerning, but also bewildering


 


Worth also pointing out that in years gone by it was common to have heat across the country and a very specific area prone to heat get the extreme heat.


 


This time its entirely nationwide.  There are 2 phenomana at play here


Tom Rance
Tuesday, July 19, 2022 12:19:28 PM

Originally Posted by: briggsy6 


Extraordinary. Time for climate change deniers to shut up for good. There can no longer be any debate that AGW is real. Maybe global warming denial should be made a criminal offence - these people represent an existant threat to the future of humanity and the urgent need to tackle climate change.



I'm sorry, but a spell of albeit exceptionally warm weather in one tiny bit of the world does not prove anything at all. 


Global warming denial a criminal offence? What else would you like to outlaw? Thinking naughty thoughts?! Come on - the whole scientific community should be reliant on questioning debate. Shutting down alternate viewpoints merely exacerbates the problem.


Tom
Cambridgeshire, Ouse Valley, 40ft AMSL.
Tim A
Tuesday, July 19, 2022 12:19:44 PM
Staggering that we have breached 40c in 2022.

Local records being smashed around here. 36.3c here, 35.7c Bingley, 36.5c Bramham, 35.9c Bradford, 36.2C Ryhill.
Sheffield 37.0c it looks like.
Tim
NW Leeds
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Tuesday, July 19, 2022 12:20:25 PM

It feels hotter than yesterday which reached 35C in the garden. It's now 'only' 32.6 with the front not that far away in Lyme Bay and a very hot humid, heavy feel to the air. Not at all like yesterday. The humidity I guess.


 


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John p
Tuesday, July 19, 2022 12:22:17 PM

Originally Posted by: Matty H 

Absolutely staggering

Just sit and reflect for a moment. Think yourself back to June. Moomin claiming summer was over etc…

But that aside, just think back to then. If someone had told you the UK was going to smash 40c this summer or any summer soon you’d have probably thought they were nuts

We’ve had such a long and well modelled (important to mention that) build up to this it almost feels normal. It’s not. It’s deeply concerning, but also bewildering


What is interesting is the really significant events (today and December 2010) are often really well signposted in advance. 
This heat started appearing in the models nearly two weeks ago I think? 


Camberley, Surrey
John p
Tuesday, July 19, 2022 12:23:20 PM

Originally Posted by: Heavy Weather 2013 

Grass fires breaking out in Croydon.


Wetherspoons beer garden?


Camberley, Surrey
Matty H
Tuesday, July 19, 2022 12:23:48 PM

Originally Posted by: John p 


 


What is interesting is the really significant events (today and December 2010) are often really well signposted in advance. 
This heat started appearing in the models nearly two weeks ago I think? 



Indeed. Roughly 2nd July


Ally Pally Snowman
Tuesday, July 19, 2022 12:25:30 PM

Originally Posted by: Matty H 


 


Indeed. Roughly 2nd July



GFS has been superb on this spell. Not Arome's finest hour though.


Bishop's Stortford 85m ASL.
Chunky Pea
Tuesday, July 19, 2022 12:25:52 PM

Originally Posted by: Quantum 


I think the front is further west,.



I think it is right over me. Brisk straight northerly, while dark mid-level cloud moves up directly from the south, as lower fractus moves directly west to east.


And about 3 drops of rain has fallen. 


 


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https://t.ly/MEYqg 


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Bolty
Tuesday, July 19, 2022 12:26:12 PM

Originally Posted by: briggsy6 


Extraordinary. Time for climate change deniers to shut up for good. There can no longer be any debate that AGW is real. Maybe global warming denial should be made a criminal offence - these people represent an existant threat to the future of humanity and the urgent need to tackle climate change.



Whilst I think the people who totally deny human-caused climate change are conspiracy nuts, outlawing AGW denial is equally as nuts. It just gives them more ammunition. And as Tom says, where would we stop?


Look at what's going on in the Netherlands - farmers and other professions rioting because Net Zero will ruin their businesses. Imagine what would break out if we banned AGW denial and any questioning of carbon policies. It's a very slippery slope, IMO.


Scott
Blackrod, Lancashire (4 miles south of Chorley) at 156m asl.
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Russwirral
Tuesday, July 19, 2022 12:27:53 PM

Originally Posted by: Tom Rance 


 


I'm sorry, but a spell of albeit exceptionally warm weather in one tiny bit of the world does not prove anything at all. 


Global warming denial a criminal offence? What else would you like to outlaw? Thinking naughty thoughts?! Come on - the whole scientific community should be reliant on questioning debate. Shutting down alternate viewpoints merely exacerbates the problem.



Tom 


 


Agreed maybe the original post is a bit OTT... but this record heat stretches over several or more countries and the entire western european continent.... 1000s kms long. 


 


This is not a tiny part of the world


 


 


 


Matty H
Tuesday, July 19, 2022 12:28:21 PM

Originally Posted by: Ally Pally Snowman 


 


GFS has been superb on this spell. Not Arome's finest hour though.



Unbelievably good. To not only pick out this sort of temperature specifically, but also synoptically it’s been astonishing    


Quantum
Tuesday, July 19, 2022 12:29:10 PM

Yorkshire/Lincs suddenly 35-37C widespread.


Its happening guys. Buckle up.


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2023/2024 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):
29/11 (-6), 30/11 (-6), 02/12 (-5), 03/12 (-5), 04/12 (-3), 16/01 (-3), 18/01 (-8), 08/02 (-5)

Total: 8 days with snow/sleet falling.

2022/2023 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

18/12 (-1), 06/03 (-6), 08/03 (-8), 09/03 (-6), 10/03 (-8), 11/03 (-5), 14/03 (-6)

Total: 7 days with snow/sleet falling.

2021/2022 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

26/11 (-5), 27/11 (-7), 28/11 (-6), 02/12 (-6), 06/01 (-5), 07/01 (-6), 06/02 (-5), 19/02 (-5), 24/02 (-7), 30/03 (-7), 31/03 (-8), 01/04 (-8)
Total: 12 days with snow/sleet falling.
Quantum
Tuesday, July 19, 2022 12:30:14 PM

Originally Posted by: Ally Pally Snowman 


 


GFS has been superb on this spell. Not Arome's finest hour though.



Know thy strengths.


AROME is the first model you go to in rain/snow situations. It is pretty much always spot on at deciding which kind of precip will fall.


Not that good at other stuff though.


 


Twitter: @QuantumOverlord (general), @MedicaneWatch (medicane/TC stuff)
2023/2024 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):
29/11 (-6), 30/11 (-6), 02/12 (-5), 03/12 (-5), 04/12 (-3), 16/01 (-3), 18/01 (-8), 08/02 (-5)

Total: 8 days with snow/sleet falling.

2022/2023 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

18/12 (-1), 06/03 (-6), 08/03 (-8), 09/03 (-6), 10/03 (-8), 11/03 (-5), 14/03 (-6)

Total: 7 days with snow/sleet falling.

2021/2022 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

26/11 (-5), 27/11 (-7), 28/11 (-6), 02/12 (-6), 06/01 (-5), 07/01 (-6), 06/02 (-5), 19/02 (-5), 24/02 (-7), 30/03 (-7), 31/03 (-8), 01/04 (-8)
Total: 12 days with snow/sleet falling.
Chunky Pea
Tuesday, July 19, 2022 12:30:48 PM

Originally Posted by: Ally Pally Snowman 


 


GFS has been superb on this spell. Not Arome's finest hour though.



On a global scale, the GFS has not been preforming all that well lately, but it really does seem have a knack on picking up on longer term trends on this side of the Atlantic. Hats off. 


Current Conditions
https://t.ly/MEYqg 


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Brian Gaze
Tuesday, July 19, 2022 12:31:01 PM

Originally Posted by: Ally Pally Snowman 


 


GFS has been superb on this spell. 



If you watch the Met Office videos you'll see they make use of GFS along with their own and other models. The idea that they don't look at it is is one of many statements posted on weather forums which are unsubstantiated nonsense. 


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