KevBrads1
08 August 2021 17:44:11

Originally Posted by: johncs2016 


 


... and there was me thinking that Manchester got all of the more "interesting" weather which is around.




Patchy widespread showers, that's how interesting our weather is.


 Met Office text forecast


Monday:


Heavy showers are present throughout the morning. These will then ease during the afternoon becoming widespread and patchy. Some showers will remain overnight around Liverpool. Maximum temperature 20 °C.


 


 


 


MANCHESTER SUMMER INDEX for 2021: 238
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Medlock Vale Weather
08 August 2021 18:05:54
Not the best of August's so far but overall though it's not been a terrible summer in this area. Strangely it's been worse down south.
Alan in Medlock Valley - Oldham's frost hollow. 103 metres above sea level.
What is a frost hollow? http://www.weatheronline.co.uk/reports/wxfacts/Frost-hollow.htm 
KevBrads1
09 August 2021 04:17:47

Manchester Summer Indices. Summers in order with the best at the top and the worst at the bottom


 


1976 301


1995 298


1983 278


1955 277


1911 274


2018 272


1984 271


1959 269


1975 268


1949 267


1989 262


1947 255


1933 251


1901 249


1921 249


2003 247


2013 247


1925 246


2006 246


1996 245


1935 243


2021 243 (up to 7th Aug)


1994 240


 


Looks pretty dry for central parts of England and Wales this working week



MANCHESTER SUMMER INDEX for 2021: 238
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Chidog
09 August 2021 07:27:00

The last five days of weather in Surrey must be amongst the worst summer weather of the last ten years. Driving rain every day with near gale force winds. This has been clearly the worst summer since 2012 in the SE (all data shows it's been much better outside of this corner of the country)

johncs2016
09 August 2021 11:27:46

Given just how dark it's become here in Edinburgh at the moment, it's hard to believe that this is still only August as it is feeling a bit more like an overcast day in November/December rather than one in August.


The north of Edinburgh, usually always missing out on snow events which occur not just within the rest of Scotland or the UK, but also within the rest of Edinburgh.
Col
  • Col
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09 August 2021 11:51:57

Originally Posted by: johncs2016 


Given just how dark it's become here in Edinburgh at the moment, it's hard to believe that this is still only August as it is feeling a bit more like an overcast day in November/December rather than one in August.



Perhaps there is a thunderstorm brewing. After all, you've had the warnings for days now :)


Col
Bolton, Lancashire
160m asl
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johncs2016
09 August 2021 11:57:54

Originally Posted by: Col 


 


Perhaps there is a thunderstorm brewing. After all, you've had the warnings for days now :)



That would be asking for too much because as you know, we generally don't get "interesting" weather where I live even if the rest of Edinburgh is getting that more interesting weather as Jerry from the south of Edinburgh (where all of the action has been as we miss out on that here in the north of Edinburgh yet again) has been demonstrating very well today on a couple of other threads within forum.


 


The north of Edinburgh, usually always missing out on snow events which occur not just within the rest of Scotland or the UK, but also within the rest of Edinburgh.
Heavy Weather 2013
09 August 2021 16:58:11
Another tropical downpour in London it’s been criminal today. Just so much rain in the last three days alone.

I’ve noted the heat build towards Spain and all the cut off lows near the southern half of the UK. This doesn’t bode well for.
Mark
Beckton, E London
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Jiries
09 August 2021 20:19:45

Originally Posted by: Chidog 


The last five days of weather in Surrey must be amongst the worst summer weather of the last ten years. Driving rain every day with near gale force winds. This has been clearly the worst summer since 2012 in the SE (all data shows it's been much better outside of this corner of the country)



That the reason why I stop recording the wetaher data which last date was 31.12.2012 and the WS2500 was still working was turned off for the last time and took it to the reycycling centre to be recycled with other electronics.  No regrets and since then most had been very boring apart from part time I recording data like July 2013 and 2 and half months in June to mid august 2018, rest of the other years I recorded the max hottest and coldest that all.


I still recording Nicosia and Death Valley temperatures as they are more interesting and never boring.   Best times of wetaher data was in the 90's and early 20's and used to get durinal ranges of 20-25C between days and nights in Spring to early Summer, no longer exist due to too much clouds.  Used to record -5C to 22C during April and 2C to 29C in May the highest 27C range all because itw as under proper HP and wall to wall sunshine.

Jiries
09 August 2021 20:22:26

Originally Posted by: Heavy Weather 2013 

Another tropical downpour in London it’s been criminal today. Just so much rain in the last three days alone.

I’ve noted the heat build towards Spain and all the cut off lows near the southern half of the UK. This doesn’t bode well for.


Those stupid lows never occured in the past when there heat in Spain, we get it so easily and but I think the gulf stream shutting down made it worse than we thought?  They told us that if they so shut down we expect like in Japan or Canadian winters and hotter summers but alas no it gone opposite way now.  If that the case please get the gulf stream back up and running again as they deliver lot of HP and hot days in summer even if winter is mild but better than cold and wet type winters.

Saint Snow
09 August 2021 20:37:26

Originally Posted by: Jiries 

If that the case please get the gulf stream back up and running again as they deliver lot of HP and hot days in summer even if winter is mild but better than cold and wet type winters.



 



 


 


You do understand the mechanics of thermohaline circulation and how decreased salinity in the NW Atlantic (caused by Greenland/Arctic ice melting) slows the rate of flow? We're past the point of being able to reverse this in our lifetimes, so get used to decreasing NAD flow and the effects of that.



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richardabdn
10 August 2021 16:19:58

Pretty much the entire country experiencing a decent day except for this area which once again is subjected to pure poison off the North Sea. Another day of abject misery stuck indoors  


Grey, wet, featureless overcast, under an hour of sunshine. Rain and cloud just sitting there refusing to budge. 14C during the night, 14C during the day 


Day after day with warnings for thunder and this remains the only year in my life when I have not heard a single rumble. About as far removed from summer storms as it's possible to get. Another wretched day of November rain and gloom


Utterly diabolical 


 


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johncs2016
10 August 2021 18:43:29

Originally Posted by: richardabdn 


Pretty much the entire country experiencing a decent day except for this area which once again is subjected to pure poison off the North Sea. Another day of abject misery stuck indoors  


Grey, wet, featureless overcast, under an hour of sunshine. Rain and cloud just sitting there refusing to budge. 14C during the night, 14C during the day 


Day after day with warnings for thunder and this remains the only year in my life when I have not heard a single rumble. About as far removed from summer storms as it's possible to get. Another wretched day of November rain and gloom


Utterly diabolical 


 



Well, at least you got a decent day during yesterday whilst it was pouring with rain virtually all day here in Edinburgh.


 


The north of Edinburgh, usually always missing out on snow events which occur not just within the rest of Scotland or the UK, but also within the rest of Edinburgh.
Saint Snow
10 August 2021 21:07:25

When I'm the most prolific poster in the model output thread, you know the forum is struggling.


Y'ought to be ashamed of yourselves.




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KevBrads1
12 August 2021 12:32:32

Manchester Summer Indices. Summers in order with the best at the top and the worst at the bottom


 


1976 301


1995 298


1983 278


1955 277


1911 274


2018 272


1984 271


1959 269


1975 268


1949 267


1989 262


1947 255


1933 251


1901 249


1921 249


2003 247


2013 247


1925 246


2006 246


1996 245


1935 243


1994 240


2021 240 (up to 10th August)


MANCHESTER SUMMER INDEX for 2021: 238
Timelapses, old weather forecasts and natural phenomena videos can be seen on this site
http://www.youtube.com/channel/UCgrSD1BwFz2feWDTydhpEhQ/playlists
cultman1
12 August 2021 13:50:16
Cool grey and cloudy and 18 degrees today and looks like the same for the next 5-6 days minimum
dare I say summer really looks like being over for one of the worst on record in my opinion especially for complete lack of sun for the London area
KevBrads1
13 August 2021 23:16:34

This was the Met Office text forecast issued at 5am on 13th August for NW England 


"A mostly dry start but frequent, locally heavy showers developing across the region as the day progresses. A cloudy day for many but chance of sunny spells."


Where did they get frequent showers from? No model was showing this. Not sure what has happened to the quality of these forecasts.  "wintry rain"  "showers becoming widespread and patchy" "isolated gales"


They have become sloppy for some reason over the last few months 


 


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Bolty
14 August 2021 16:00:21
It was decent yesterday but unfortunately it's turned poor for another weekend. Currently, it's cloudy with on and off spells of rain today. I don't think I've seen the sun either.
Scott
Blackrod, Lancashire (4 miles south of Chorley) at 156m asl.
My weather station 
Tim A
14 August 2021 16:09:48

Originally Posted by: KevBrads1 


This was the Met Office text forecast issued at 5am on 13th August for NW England 


"A mostly dry start but frequent, locally heavy showers developing across the region as the day progresses. A cloudy day for many but chance of sunny spells."


Where did they get frequent showers from? No model was showing this. Not sure what has happened to the quality of these forecasts.  "wintry rain"  "showers becoming widespread and patchy" "isolated gales"


They have become sloppy for some reason over the last few months 


 



I agree they are not fit for purpose and should be scrapped.  They have been very poor this year 


Automated forecasts give a better picture.  


Summarising a whole region in a couple of lines is very difficult E g  On Wednesday the forecast for Yorkshire was early brightness gives way to patchy rain . That may have been the case for Saddleworth Moor, I was in Bridlington where it was mostly sunny well into late Afternoon.


 


Tim
NW Leeds
187m asl

 My PWS 
richardabdn
15 August 2021 08:37:25

Sunshine totals for the last 5 weekend days here: 1.7, 2.1, 0.9, 2.8, 2.1 


Utter horrific run that you think could only come from the depths of winter but even then you would struggle to get such a long run without even one day managing 3 hours


Even worse than it looks because it all comes in dribs and drabs throughout the day. Doubt any of the totally rank days managed more than about 20 minutes of continuous sunshine 


After that putrid run you would think things could only get better but no they get even worse. Another absolute abomination of a Sunday with full overcast, drizzle and appalling temperatures. Such an extensive blanket of cloud that a total of 0.0 would seem a possibility 


The worst run of summer weekend weather since 2012 and only 2007 and 2012 have produced 6 consecutive weekend days all failing to manage 3 hours sun. 3 hours is in no way decent or acceptable total for a summer day and we can't even manage that. It's beyond surreal.


Just two Sundays in this diabolical summer have managed 5 hours of sun. Even 2012 managed 4 and 2007 had 3 


I struggle to recall anything this grim in November. Even horrors like 2014, 2018 and 2019 didn't have three weekends of ultra depressing sunless garbage like this 


I thought the Augusts of 2007 and 2018 were ridiculous for the weekend curse but this month is in another league of awful. 5.4 hours average for the weekdays and less than 2 hours at the weekend. In other words, perfectly normal weather during the week then permacast horror all weekend long. The past Tuesday and Wedneday were dreadful but the previous week both days were glorious whereas the rotten weekend garbage is never compensated for.


This is such a dire and depressing August it makes the likes of 2008 seem decent. For the third successive weekend I have been stuck at home unable to the the things I enjoy with nothing to look forward to but another week stuck in the house. A truly miserable and soul destroying existence.


Can't go for any long walks anywhere or long cycles because of the repulsive weekend weather. Can't partake in any photography. Can't sit out in the garden for more than about 10 minutes at a time. Can't travel abroad to escape this godawful weather. Can't do anything I enjoy doing 


I have had fitbit for nearly four years and have never been as inactive before as I have in this abhorrent joke of a summer month. According to the fitbit I have been averaging 24 'very active' minutes a day which is 14 minutes less than the previous worst performing month and well under half the average. Yet this is supposed to be a summer month.


I would say I despise living in this utter hole but that wouldn't even begin to describe my feelings of utter revulsion about the appalling quality of life I have to suffer courtesy of one of the most horrifically depressing climates to be found anywhere on the planet 


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