My prediction is for the hottest summer spell of all time to start about mid July. And it's about as useful as all the predictions you have mentioned as it's impossible to forecast so far ahead.

Repeat after me Moomin - Any forecast beyond 2 weeks is guess work!

Any forecast beyond 2 weeks is guess work!

Any forecast beyond 2 weeks is guess work!

Any forecast beyond 2 weeks is guess work!

Any forecast beyond 2 weeks is guess work!

Any forecast beyond 2 weeks is guess work!

Any forecast beyond 2 weeks is guess work!

Any forecast beyond 2 weeks is guess work!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

We shall see. That's all.

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Moomin makes Richard sound like one of the Chuckle brothers by comparison.

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This June is going down the pan big time now, as I feared it would. Nature will always balance things out, and for all those pleading for rain last month, well, as I said, you will get what you yearned for and then some.

 

This is the problem I have with "nature balance things out" mantra What is it balancing out? 

How do you know the very dry spring wasn't balancing out the record breakingly wet February?

 

 

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We shall see. That's all.

 

I'm only poking fun going a bit loopy I think haven't worked for 3 months coz of the pandemic. Hopefully a summer 76 style heatwave is round the corner.

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Moomin makes Richard sound like one of the Chuckle brothers by comparison.

🤣🤣🤣 Finally I've been rumbled. I've been trying hard to replace the misery of Richard without success....finally I've been outed.

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I'm only poking fun going a bit loopy I think haven't worked for 3 months coz of the pandemic. Hopefully a summer 76 style heatwave is round the corner.

It is, next summer 🤣🥰😂. Trust me, I know these things. ☀️☀️☀️☄☄🌤🌡🌡

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Another shocker of a day. Yesterday we had strong winds which caused minor damage to fences locally. A high of just 13C against the met office video forecasts 18-19C.

Today the met office video forecast is going for a high of 21C in Manchester so call it 19 here.

Currently it’s 14.5C with gusty winds and drizzle!

The weather the past few months has overall been amazing but boy has it been really slow to recover from the past two cool snaps!

If only we had this setup in winter....

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Here in Edinburgh, this really dismal start to this latest complete non-event which is known as our so-called "summer" which we are currently experiencing. goes on.

Unlike some people on this forum, I wouldn't be completely writing off this summer altogether, especially since we are are less than two weeks into it, and haven't even got to the start of astronomical summer just yet. However, the outlook for the rest of this month just isn't looking good at all and if we don't get any decent weather during the rest of this month, that will have been a third of our summer gone already without even a hint of any actual summer weather (with the exception of those first few days which that really good weather from the spring carried over into).

This means that if we were to have any chance of somehow rescuing a decent summer from that, the rest of the summer right from the beginning of July onwards, would have to be really good with consistently hot and sunny weather throughout, and I wouldn't exactly be holding out much hope of that happening.

Gavin P. in his summer forecast, has gone for quite a decent summer this year and from what is happening just now, I can see why he has also admitted to the fact that this forecast will be in a bit of trouble if there are still no signs of the Azores High building in by the end of this month (that of course, also raises the question of where on Earth is that Azores High now, when we really need it!?).

In recent years, we have been used to this sort of thing happening with our winters which then, never end up being all that decent as a result, but without that being so much the case with our summers. However, it would seem as though that is now happening with this summer as well. I said on an earlier post that it wouldn't surprise me if we have already actually had our "summer" during this year in April and May with all of that warm sunshine which we had then.

Now, it would appear as though we are well on course for that to end up being the case, unless something dramatically happens which changes all of that, rather unexpectedly. As we say with the weather though, anything can happen.

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Another shocker of a day. Yesterday we had strong winds which caused minor damage to fences locally. A high of just 13C against the met office video forecasts 18-19C.

Today the met office video forecast is going for a high of 21C in Manchester so call it 19 here.

Currently it’s 14.5C with gusty winds and drizzle!

The weather the past few months has overall been amazing but boy has it been really slow to recover from the past two cool snaps!

If only we had this setup in winter....

 

And yet down here the dew points have been higher at times then your maximum 🙂 

 

Proper humid June weather - from memory normal humid fairly wet June's lead to hot dry summers down here. 

tulipweather which was making me depressed. Now a rather balmy summer evening and I’m feeling fine. From moan to gloat, just like that.

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You'd think that after such a bad start this month couldn't get any worse or that with such awful weekdays the Weekend Curse couldn't strike again but today's utterly repulsive vomit proves otherwise.

An absolutely wretched day with filthy thick murk and the same dire temperatures that have been endured all month. This abomination of a summer month is just horrific and like an amalgamation of 2007 and 2012 - the two worst Junes of the past century.

When you consider that 2014 also made it into the top 10 dullest and 2016 and 2017 into the top 10 wettest, the latter being the wettest on record, that means almost half of the Junes since 2007 have been top 10 horror shows. Even some of those that didn't (2010, 2015) still featured protracted periods of the June permacast hell like nothing on earth this month ever used to produce.

A detestable month that is the most dismal and suicide inducing month of the year. Even last November which was a truly awful wet dull November wasn't as consistently poor as this month and so many of the atrocious Junes of the past 20 years that in no way resemble the Junes of the past. June 13th has to be one of the most rancid days of the year. I just viewed 'On This Day' from Amazon photos and there is hardly anything there - on a par with the worst days of winter for dismal unphotogenic muck year in year out.

Looks like this will be the 6th day this month in which I don't leave the house. More than in April and May combined and probably more than in any month of my life. This is a living hell and the inability to escape abroad is making it all the more unbearable with nothing at all to look forward to - just a miserable depressing existence with no quality of life.

2020 shaping up to replace 2014 as the direst year of weather in my lifetime. We've already endured the worst winter with no snow, it's been the worst ever year for the Weekend Curse and now we're having a crack at worst summer on record. The only reason this will be hard to achieve is because the bar was set so low in 2012. The 1960s summers were fantastic compared to the loathsome grot we've had to endure since 2007.

This region had the lowest positive sunshine anomalies in the spring due to the Weekend Curse:

https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/pub/data/weather/uk/climate/anomacts/2020/13/2020_13_Sunshine_Anomaly_1981-2010.gif

and with relentless northerly and easterly winds and an astounding absence of the west and south west winds, we should be getting, will suffer the worst of the sunshine deficit in summer like this:

https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/pub/data/weather/uk/climate/anomacts/2007/14/2007_14_Sunshine_Anomaly_1971-2000.gif  and this

https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/pub/data/weather/uk/climate/anomacts/2012/14/2012_14_Sunshine_Anomaly_1981-2010.gif 

Snowfall maps don't exist but if they did they would show this region suffering the worst of the snowfall deficit too. Just relentless suffering of complete and utter dross, no matter what tome of year, in the worst ever era for weather. The same horror on a loop each year.

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Some more high quality richardabdn prose on this thread. I particularly enjoy the threads where posters are able to indulge their agendas, as there is some remarkable consistency in the underlying message:

richardabdn: everything is awful, and even worse than the awful stuff that has come before

retron (where is he?): it’s too hot, I can’t bear this unpleasantly warm weather

picturesareme: anything you lot think is extreme is just bog standard normal weather here in Portsmouth

four: it’s colder here than where you are

Jiries (where is he)? the weather is a sentient being that repeatedly breaks the law

etc

 

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A truly reprehensible weekend, appropriate words of condemnation for which have yet to be invented.

The first completely sunless weekend of the year and the first in summer since 21st/22nd July 2007. The only time the fog lifted was when it rained bringing back horrific memories of June 2007, which this month has degenerated into having started on a June 2012 trajectory.

This follows on from last Sunday having half-an-hour sunshine and a max of 11C. Three total write-off days out of four. It’s hard to believe there could be another place on earth that suffers weekend weather as revolting as we have to endure in this depressing hell-on-earth.

Yet another summer so grim it’s past salvation by mid-June. When half the days have been so bad I can’t leave the house it feels like the most horrific season of torture I’ve ever had to suffer. A threat to both mental and physical health. Just 30,000 steps recorded for the past week which is the lowest I’ve ever recorded.

A continuation of this excrement would see it struggling to even reach the rock bottom levels of 2007/2012 while considerable improvement would be required for it just to rate as poor 

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Are we EVER going to get some proper rain again, that's what I want to know

Less than 50% of average so far this month, after 2% in May and around 50% in March and April.

My garden demands an answer!

If I wanted endless hot, dry, sunny weather I'd have moved to Saudi Arabia

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Are we EVER going to get some proper rain again, that's what I want to know

Less than 50% of average so far this month, after 2% in May and around 50% in March and April.

My garden demands an answer!

If I wanted endless hot, dry, sunny weather I'd have moved to Saudi Arabia

Most models this morning suggest you're in for a good dousing this week. Should be up close to 100% for the full month by Sunday. 

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Are we EVER going to get some proper rain again, that's what I want to know

Less than 50% of average so far this month, after 2% in May and around 50% in March and April.

My garden demands an answer!

If I wanted endless hot, dry, sunny weather I'd have moved to Saudi Arabia

If only, we could actually get some hot and sunny weather here in Edinburgh.

It might be hard to believe now, but this month actually started off on a sunny note after all of the warm and sunny weather which we had during the spring, carried through into the first couple of days of this month here in Edinburgh.

Yet in spite of that, a total of just 50.8 hours of sunshine has been recorded during this month so far at Edinburgh Gogarbank as at 8am this morning.

That is less than a third of the 1981-2010 June average for that particular station and yet, we will be exactly halfway through this month at the end of today (remember, this month only has 30 days in it, and is the shortest summer month in terms of the number of days which it has).

It is therefore clear that unless we get a significant improvement very soon in the amount of sunshine which we are getting, this month is going to go down as being quite substantially duller than average in the end and with this morning's dreary conditions, this is clearly something which isn't likely to happen any time soon here.

In addition to that, it certainly hasn't been hot here. We did have a couple of very warm days at the very beginning of this month, but this month is actually running about 0.4°C colder than average just now at Edinburgh Gogarbank in spite of that, although recent nights have been a bit warmer.

However, describing it as dry here would be slightly closer to the mark, even though that isn't quite accurate. This month up until now, has been wetter than anything which we saw during the spring, probably with the exception of March. However, that is only really because we had such an exceptionally dry spring this year (our driest spring on record here in Edinburgh, in fact).

So far, this month has been nowhere near as wet here as the same month during last year, and hasn't even been any wetter than the 1981-2010 June average at this stage. Furthermore, our rainfall totals are currently being made up out of some horrible drizzly stuff, rather than from actual proper rainfall.

All of that is indicative of the fact that we just don't seem to get any sort of actual "weather" here any more, as this has been the case for several months now going back into the spring.

Last summer was very wet with some flooding here in Edinburgh at times which obviously made for a poor summer, even though it was warmer than average overall back then. However, that was at least, a much more interesting summer because we at least, had quite a lot of thunderstorms during last summer and our hottest day on record to boot.

This year though, getting one single thunderstorm or getting even close to that happening, is clearly going to be far too much to ask for, due to the fact that we just get any sort of "interesting" weather here any more. When you add all of that together, this has to go down as our most boring and uninteresting start to any so-called "summer" on record and given our lack of any sort of actual weather during the spring as well, that is what I have become fed up with, more than anything else.

 

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Summer has returned for the last 3 days with temperatures above the July average and no rain.
Garden is doing great, the nearly 80mm which fell in between the 3rd and 13th was much needed. Plants are going mad and the grass is a lush green.
Outlook looks generally above par too. 

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Fog and ZERO sunshine for the third straight day. The longest sunless spell in summer since July 2012. Can't ever remember relentless fog like this for days on end not even in 2007 

No winter since 2015/16 has recorded a string of three sunless days which is incredulous but that is because all we get in winter now is relentless westerlies

Last January had only one sunless day the entire month. Just unreal when a summer month produces four times as many sunless days as a winter month with less than half the daylight and that's just at the half way stage 

That's now seven Junes since 2007 – more than half -that have recorded at least four sunless days whereas between 1948 and 1996 there were only 10 in almost 50 years with none at all from 1984-96. Another damning indictment on the unbelievable deterioration in summer weather.

Second half of the month will almost have to be on a par with 2018 just to reach average and have around 8% above average sunshine just to reach February's total. The way things are going it won't even match January's and end up the dullest month of the year. 2007, 2012 and 2015 all saw the dullest week of the year in summer which shows just what a complete and utter joke our climate has descended into since 2007.

It's just beyond comprehension when Shetland enjoyed glorious sunshine and temps of 17C today and their winds always come off this vile sea. It hasn't reached 17C here since 2nd June nor even 16C as every single day has been below average. Peterhead and Fraserburgh got a break but the endless train of permacast hell was just relentless in this utter hole.

Lagging well behind Shetland is proof that we now have the worst summer climate anywhere on earth. It simply isn't possible to get worse summer weather than this 

 

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Fog and ZERO sunshine for the third straight day. The longest sunless spell in summer since July 2012. Can't ever remember relentless fog like this for days on end not even in 2007 

No winter since 2015/16 has recorded a string of three sunless days which is incredulous but that is because all we get in winter now is relentless westerlies

Last January had only one sunless day the entire month. Just unreal when a summer month produces four times as many sunless days as a winter month with less than half the daylight and that's just at the half way stage 

That's now seven Junes since 2007 – more than half -that have recorded at least four sunless days whereas between 1948 and 1996 there were only 10 in almost 50 years with none at all from 1984-96. Another damning indictment on the unbelievable deterioration in summer weather.

Second half of the month will almost have to be on a par with 2018 just to reach average and have around 8% above average sunshine just to reach February's total. The way things are going it won't even match January's and end up the dullest month of the year. 2007, 2012 and 2015 all saw the dullest week of the year in summer which shows just what a complete and utter joke our climate has descended into since 2007.

It's just beyond comprehension when Shetland enjoyed glorious sunshine and temps of 17C today and their winds always come off this vile sea. It hasn't reached 17C here since 2nd June nor even 16C as every single day has been below average. Peterhead and Fraserburgh got a break but the endless train of permacast hell was just relentless in this utter hole.

Lagging well behind Shetland is proof that we now have the worst summer climate anywhere on earth. It simply isn't possible to get worse summer weather than this 

 

I feel genuine sympathy for you there in Aberdeen.  It does seem to get the worst of all possible deals when the wind is between SSE and E, which has been quite a lot of late.  The undeniable reality, though, is that things WILL change.  Dig deep and hang on in there.  

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On this occasion, I'm not going to give an account of what it is like here in Edinburgh because the only thing which has changed from yesterday is the fact that it's not as misty.

For all of the other details about what's going on here just now, I will therefore refer you to my first post in yesterday's CC thread.

Yes, that is how our uninteresting and boring lack of actual weather has come to now, because you can now get a fairly accurate account of what's happening here by copying and pasting everything over from the previous day's thread.

The sad thing is as well, is that it never used to be like that because what used to make our weather interesting was the variability in our conditions from one day to the next, and the fact that we actually use to occasionally get some proper weather at times.

Indeed, that appears to be still be the case elsewhere in the UK according to what I'm reading, but that is no longer the case here any more.

That variability in conditions and the fact that we used to occasionally get some actual weather was what gave me my original interest in the weather, but I have to say that this has fully gone now because everything here has now become so boring and repetitive that it isn't even worth bothering about any more.

 

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