David M Porter
Sunday, August 23, 2020 8:52:46 AM

Originally Posted by: richardabdn 


 


Summer 2004 was way better than this summer here. In fact, even though it wasn't great, it was still better than almost every summer since 2007. Sunshine is the most important element in the feel of how good a summer is and once again it's been severely lacking.


Every month of 2004 managed near average sunshine contrasting sharply with this years dismally cloudy June and August. July 2020 had nearer average sunshine but every month of 2004 was sunnier. The easterly spell at the start of August 2004 was nowhere near as grim as mid-August 2020 with most afternoons managing at least a few hours. 


With just 10 days to go summer 2020 hasn't even managed 400 hours sun whereas 2004 had over 500 hours.


2004 may have been a bit wetter but the thunderstorms in late June and mid-August were more impressive than their equivalents from this year. The June 2020 storm in particular was garbage occurring at the same time as fog. That has been the major problem this summer - it's been one of the foggiest and murkiest I can recall - on a par with 2007 for easterly muck.


Temperature wise 2004 was much warmer with June seeing warm day temperatures, July cool and August average. There won't be a warm summer month this year with June and August near average and July cool.



I would probably put summer 2004 on level-pegging with this summer when it comes to how good, bad or indifferent the weather was over the three months. What I do recall from 2004, just like this year and a good deal of other recent summers, was a distinct lack of any sustained settled spells until the very end of August. In fact the second week of August 2004 was atrocious here with four wet days in a rowAs it happens, I recall a glorious few days in my neck of the woods during the first 10 days of September 2004 which we struggled to get at any time during June, July and August that year.


The one thing that I have noticed in quite a few occasions over the past 20 or so years is the number of times when a mediocre summer have been preceded and followed by much better weather in the spring & autumn. We don't yet know what this coming autumn will be like, but just like May this year, I recall an abundance of glorious weather here in May 2004 which unfortunately didn't set the tone for that summer any more than the great weather of April and May this year set the tone for this summer.


Lenzie, Glasgow

"Let us not take ourselves too seriously. None of us has a monopoly on wisdom, and we must always be ready to listen and respect other points of view."- Queen Elizabeth II 1926-2022
xioni2
Sunday, August 23, 2020 10:59:33 AM

It's been a pretty good summer here, little rain and lots of useable days. My personal index is the time I spend in the garden and it's been very high this year.


7/10 for the summer, but 9/10 for the extended summer of March-August.


 

Retron
Sunday, August 23, 2020 11:08:32 AM

Originally Posted by: xioni2 


It's been a pretty good summer here, little rain and lots of useable days. My personal index is the time I spend in the garden and it's been very high this year.



Started okay, turned to crap earlier in August and is now finally bearable again.


You know it's crap when it's too hot to work outside in the garden and that's happened a lot this August.


 


Leysdown, north Kent
xioni2
Sunday, August 23, 2020 11:19:35 AM

Originally Posted by: Retron 


 Started okay, turned to crap earlier in August and is now finally bearable again.


You know it's crap when it's too hot to work outside in the garden and that's happened a lot this August.


 


We obviously have different thresholds/standards, I loved sitting outside (in the shade) during the recent heatwave and the warm evenings were just perfect. I am not even a fan of heatwaves, perfect weather for me is ~25C with low humidity and plenty of sunshine (almost what our average summer is becoming really!).


 


 

Crepuscular Ray
Sunday, August 23, 2020 11:44:48 AM
Another poor summers day up here. Steady rain and 15 C. Really missing some days in the garden. It's either too wet or too windy these days.
Although August has had a mean of 15.5 C which is +1 deg above normal, the mild nights have contributed. We have had two days of 23 C + so far.
Rainfall so far is 100mm which is 132%
Sunshine so far 96hrs which is 62%
Not a great summer up here!
Jerry
Edinburgh, in the frost hollow below Blackford Hill
severnside
Sunday, August 23, 2020 12:43:24 PM

You don't have to go North for a bad summer, to the West in Gloucestershire its been a poor summer.


June 116.0mm rain 145 hrs sunshine , July 67mm rain 130 hrs sunshine, August currently 87mm rain 93 hrs sunshine.


since the warm weather departed 12th August its been unsettled, only 1 day was decent the 20th.


Just had a another shower pass through now, cool westerly winds and little sunshine.

johncs2016
Sunday, August 23, 2020 2:10:14 PM

Originally Posted by: Crepuscular Ray 

Another poor summers day up here. Steady rain and 15 C. Really missing some days in the garden. It's either too wet or too windy these days.
Although August has had a mean of 15.5 C which is +1 deg above normal, the mild nights have contributed. We have had two days of 23 C + so far.
Rainfall so far is 100mm which is 132%
Sunshine so far 96hrs which is 62%
Not a great summer up here!


I agree that rainfall totals have been high here, and have gone more into that in this month's PW thread. However, all of that applies only to August and over the course of this summer as a whole, there has been no such problems with getting an above average number of official rain days or an above average actual total at either Edinburgh Gogarbank or the botanic gardens in Edinburgh.


It has also been a very dull summer and even with a just over a week to go, it is already mathematically impossible for this summer to be sunnier than average here as there isn't enough available daylight which can get us even close to the 1981-2010 summer average at Edinburgh Gogarbank.


Even for this month to be sunnier than average, we would need to be averaging almost 10 hours of sunshine per day during the last 8 days of this month after that, and we are unlikely to get even close to that, going by the latest model output.


The result of this is that this summer is now about to end with all three of its months being both wetter than average and duller than average.


As far as the temperatures are concerned, both this month and the month of June have been warmer than average overall, and this has resulted in this summer being slightly warmer than average overall.


However, July was a cooler than average month here and it has only  really been the overnight minimum temperatures which have kept this month warmer than average. Our daytime maximum temperatures during this month haven't actually been any better than average and over the course of this summer as whole, the daytime maximum temperatures actually come out very slightly cooler than average here overall.


It is on this basis that I can't really describe this as being much of a summer here, especially since the remaining eight days of this summer after today are forecast to be quite cool overall. Furthermore, the fact that it has been wet and dull overall means that it has been really dismal overall and if I were to rate this summer just now, I couldn't give it any more than 2 out of 10 (the only reasons why I have given it anything at all is due to that odd day where it was sunny with a temperature of around 28°C, and because of those recent thunderstorms).


 


 


The north of Edinburgh, usually always missing out on snow events which occur not just within the rest of Scotland or the UK, but also within the rest of Edinburgh.
severnside
Tuesday, August 25, 2020 10:33:02 AM

Weather which would be bad on the 25th October let alone August ! This August is turning into a very bad one, way worse than 2007 !


102.0mm rainfall and rising , 96.5 hrs sunshine, pathetic , horrendous spell of weather

Crepuscular Ray
Tuesday, August 25, 2020 11:34:30 AM
Another horrendous August day in a long run of poor Augusts!

12 C at noon with heavy rain on a stiff east wind

No heatwave here this month, above average rain and below average sunshine.

Colder, changeable weather on the way to end the month!
Jerry
Edinburgh, in the frost hollow below Blackford Hill
johncs2016
Tuesday, August 25, 2020 11:41:14 AM

Originally Posted by: Crepuscular Ray 

Another horrendous August day in a long run of poor Augusts!

12 C at noon with heavy rain on a stiff east wind

No heatwave here this month, above average rain and below average sunshine.

Colder, changeable weather on the way to end the month!


And then no doubt, it will warm up once we get to the winter as it tends to always do these days.


 


The north of Edinburgh, usually always missing out on snow events which occur not just within the rest of Scotland or the UK, but also within the rest of Edinburgh.
idj20
Tuesday, August 25, 2020 11:46:45 AM

Is it too soon saying I'm already bored of this Autumn and am looking forward to Spring?  


Folkestone Harbour. 
xioni2
Tuesday, August 25, 2020 12:11:51 PM

Originally Posted by: idj20 


Is it too soon saying I'm already bored of this Autumn and am looking forward to Spring?  




This is what gets me with people moaning about hot/sunny weather in summer, for more than half of the year our weather is often like a long Autumn and sometimes that lasts all year round.  

Justin W
Tuesday, August 25, 2020 12:14:25 PM

Horrendous - sweetcorn blown flat, flower borders flattened, branches broken, bean wigwams battered.


Appalling weather for August. But not as bad as the heatwave!


Yo yo yo. 148-3 to the 3 to the 6 to the 9, representing the ABQ, what up, biatch?
xioni2
Tuesday, August 25, 2020 12:21:56 PM

Originally Posted by: Justin W 


Horrendous - sweetcorn blown flat, flower borders flattened, branches broken, bean wigwams battered.


Appalling weather for August. But not as bad as the heatwave!




You are hereby sentenced to 3 summers in France, Spain, Italy or Greece.

Justin W
Tuesday, August 25, 2020 12:30:52 PM

Originally Posted by: xioni2 


 



You are hereby sentenced to 3 summers in France, Spain, Italy or Greece.




Not sure you get it. Am quite happy with 35C+ in any of the above as I would be on my 'olidays. Just hate those temperatures at home. 


Yo yo yo. 148-3 to the 3 to the 6 to the 9, representing the ABQ, what up, biatch?
Heavy Weather 2013
Tuesday, August 25, 2020 12:46:28 PM

Originally Posted by: Justin W 


 



Not sure you get it. Am quite happy with 35C+ in any of the above as I would be on my 'olidays. Just hate those temperatures at home. 



This is true, when you have a pool to jump in to cool off every hour or so it makes all the difference.


On another note, the weather here really is blowing a Gale


Mark
Beckton, E London
Less than 500m from the end of London City Airport runway.
xioni2
Tuesday, August 25, 2020 1:54:24 PM

Originally Posted by: Justin W 



Not sure you get it. Am quite happy with 35C+ in any of the above as I would be on my 'olidays. Just hate those temperatures at home. 



Agreed actually, that's why I love the summers of SE England. 


 

Col
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Tuesday, August 25, 2020 2:21:46 PM
Dreadful day. Early rain then a brief dry slot but now it's really driving in on strong winds. Nit surprising really as by this stage in August up here it's usually pretty autumnal anyway, I've said goodbye to summer now.
Col
Bolton, Lancashire
160m asl
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Bolty
Tuesday, August 25, 2020 4:34:42 PM
A notable August storm. Have to say it's a fitting end to this very peculiar summer.
Scott
Blackrod, Lancashire (4 miles south of Chorley) at 156m asl.
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richardabdn
Tuesday, August 25, 2020 6:22:46 PM

'Red Sky in the Morning Shepherds Warning' proven correct once again


Lovely sunrise at 6am:




Followed by the most putrid day of horrific deeply unpleasant filth imaginable. 13C, raining all day and windy in the afternoon from the east yet again, as if that needed saying given the conditions. Pretty much dark already with lights needed inside 


It would be wrong to describe these conditions as Autumnal because very few days in that season are so unspeakably vile. Post-2006 it's summer that sees the greatest concentration of these disgusting write-off days. Even by these rock bottom standards today was woeful in the extreme


The week of 6th-12th has saved this month from being the worst ever August as far as I'm concerned. A description of the rest of the month would require censoring. Even with that reasonable week it would still rank amongst the top 5 worst Augusts of my lifetime, all of which have occurred since 2006 (2006, 2008, 2011, 2012).


The end of this ridiculously awful season can't come soon enough 


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