Gavin D
16 May 2020 13:03:07
Scotland has reported 187 new cases and 41 new deaths
Gavin D
16 May 2020 13:05:55
Northern Ireland has reported 40 new cases and 4 new deaths
Quantum
16 May 2020 13:07:41

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EYJCh8AXQAcrQT8?format=jpg&name=small


This kind of thing is why the police needs to step back and think about what they are doing.


Should he have done that? No.


Will the optics of publicizing this rather than dealing with it quietly do more harm than good? Obviously.


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Total: 8 days with snow/sleet falling.

2022/2023 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

18/12 (-1), 06/03 (-6), 08/03 (-8), 09/03 (-6), 10/03 (-8), 11/03 (-5), 14/03 (-6)

Total: 7 days with snow/sleet falling.

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Total: 12 days with snow/sleet falling.
Gavin D
16 May 2020 13:24:37

The backdated data today for England shows the earliest death was April 4th with May 14th the highest single reporting day



  • 39 on May 15th

  • 89 on May 14th

  • 22 on May 13th

  • 23 between May 3rd and May 12th

  • 8 in April with one on April 4th

The Beast from the East
16 May 2020 13:25:05


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Ulric
16 May 2020 13:26:11

Originally Posted by: Maunder Minimum 



  • who hasn't fallen for some crap on the internet believing it at the time?



Well, that's what we voted for!


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The Beast from the East
16 May 2020 13:26:35

Originally Posted by: fairweather 


 


It's just occurred to me that "we are following the science" has become used a bit like one of their slogans. I'm beginning to wonder if it's part of a prepared blame game if things go even worse than they have so far. Then it becomes " well we did follow the Science", like we were "just obeying orders"



This shower are expert at only 3 things - slogans, lying and xenophobia


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The Beast from the East
16 May 2020 13:33:07

Originally Posted by: Hippydave 


On the young peoples lung scarring front, I think it would be more sensible to look at the risk of scarring in young people versus the risk of scarring they already face and seeing if it's significant or not. If not then unless you're saying all children should be kept isolated to protect them from everything that they're already at risk of getting or suffering from, the policy should be allow them to get on with it (looking purely at this issue and not whether it would spread the disease etc. before some decides to imply that from my post).


My brother for example got pleurisy last year and ended up with scarring from that. Clearly that's bad and I imagine something that happens to people from all age groups every year. Is the risk from covid more or less than from seasonal flu and other viruses?


Something bad happening to Mildred from number 42 is terrible but not something you'd necessarily base a societal response on. Something bad happening to 1 in 1000 people etc probably would be something you'd put specific processes in place to avoid/mitigate.


 



CDC in America have issued an alert for the Kawasaki type disease in children that we know about, and cases across the country are now rising again and death toll expected to pass 100,000 before the end of the month


Johnson is following a similar path. The economy is important of course, but as Justin always mentions, we can afford to print lots of money and give it to people without risking inflation just yet


The US and UK are alone in their reckless approach and re-opening without a test and trace programme, and infection levels are too high to be able to track and isolate the disease anyway.


But lets get the media to spend the day attacking teachers and Sadiq Khan


 


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JHutch
16 May 2020 13:34:19

Originally Posted by: Gavin D 


The backdated data today for England shows the earliest death was April 4th with May 14th the highest single reporting day



  • 39 on May 15th

  • 89 on May 14th

  • 22 on May 13th

  • 23 between May 3rd and May 12th

  • 8 in April with one on April 4th



Despite last Saturday covering a bank holiday's data i think that there was slightly more backdating last Saturday than this Saturday. Still looks like a slight downward trend after the plateau just over a week ago.

The Beast from the East
16 May 2020 13:39:32

Just to contrast how seriously other countries take things. Sri Lanka going back into curfew until Monday after just TWO new cases!


 




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springsunshine
16 May 2020 13:43:47

Originally Posted by: Gavin D 

Jeremy Corbyns brother has been arrested during a protest in London's Hyde Park


Clearly, insanity is a trait in the Corbyn family!

bledur
16 May 2020 13:50:54

Originally Posted by: Justin W 


 


She retweeted it with the comment ‘revealing’.


That is promoting a lie. You are a poltroon, Richard. We are all laughing at you.



 Poltroon means utter or spiritless coward so i think you are a little confused .

fairweather
16 May 2020 13:59:18

Originally Posted by: springsunshine 


 


Clearly, insanity is a trait in the Corbyn family!



But which traits do you find insane - the left wing compassionate idealist or the right wing lockdown breaker and global warming denier?


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doctormog
16 May 2020 14:04:55

“Two planned anti-lockdown protests didn’t take place today after members of the public in Aberdeen continued to follow the Scottish Government’s guidelines.

Photographers from the Evening Express were at both of the events in the city with not a single protester seen at either location.”


https://www.eveningexpress.co.uk/fp/news/local/aberdeen-lockdown-protests-deserted-after-public-sticks-to-police-advice/ 



Retron
16 May 2020 14:18:02

Originally Posted by: doctormog 


https://www.eveningexpress.co.uk/fp/news/local/aberdeen-lockdown-protests-deserted-after-public-sticks-to-police-advice/ 




And at the other end of Britain...


Tourists fail to flock to Kent's beaches and 'anti coronavirus' mass gatherings in Margate and Folkestone amount to nothing


Fears of a flood of tourists flocking to many of our beaches as a result of a relaxation of lockdown measures failed to materialise on Saturday.


And mass gatherings proposed in two of our towns, spread on social media by those opposed to any form of lockdown, also failed to attract crowds.


https://www.kentonline.co.uk/kent/news/beaches-empty-as-day-trippers-heed-warnings-227294/


Good news all round!


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westv
16 May 2020 14:22:53
I assumed these "anti-lockdown protests" were just a social media joke.
At least it will be mild!
Joe Bloggs
16 May 2020 14:25:25

Where are the updates about testing and contract tracing? 


https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/may/16/gps-press-ministers-for-clear-testing-strategy-to-avoid-second-wave-of-coronavirus?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other


 


I like to think a lot is happening behind the scenes. I like to think the contract tracers are being recruited en masse. I like to think the government are working with health leaders 24/7 to get this programme setup.


Why do I have doubts? 



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16 May 2020 15:13:11

Originally Posted by: Joe Bloggs 


Where are the updates about testing and contract tracing? 


https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/may/16/gps-press-ministers-for-clear-testing-strategy-to-avoid-second-wave-of-coronavirus?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other


 


I like to think a lot is happening behind the scenes. I like to think the contract tracers are being recruited en masse. I like to think the government are working with health leaders 24/7 to get this programme setup.


Why do I have doubts? 



This could be one reason... https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/may/15/uk-minister-admits-less-than-10-of-contact-tracers-recruited


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Brian Gaze
16 May 2020 15:29:31

Ferguson under sustained attack now. 


Coding that led to lockdown was 'totally unreliable' and a 'buggy mess', say experts


...
The code, written by Professor Neil Ferguson and his team at Imperial College London, was impossible to read, scientists claim
....
“There appears to be a bug in either the creation or re-use of the network file. If we attempt two completely identical runs, only varying in that the second should use the network file produced by the first, the results are quite different,” the Edinburgh researchers wrote on the Github file.


After a discussion with one of the Github developers, a fix was later provided. This is said to be one of a number of bugs discovered within the system. The Github developers explained this by saying that the model is “stochastic”, and that “multiple runs with different seeds should be undertaken to see average behaviour”.


https://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/2020/05/16/coding-led-lockdown-totally-unreliable-buggy-mess-say-experts/


I don't really understand the bolded part. Logically the only way I can see how the results can vary is if a) if the seed is altered b) there is a random component in the model. To my understanding a would be somewhat akin to weather model ensembles where the starting conditions are varied to account for uncertainty. Not sure about b, perhaps a random component to address uncertain patterns of human behaviour?


Apparently much of the code is very old and some has been converted from Fortran. Neither point necessarily implies a problem or shortcoming IMO.


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JHutch
16 May 2020 15:55:47

There was a question from the member of the public from Gateshead about the virus being more widespread in parts of the north-east and whether this would affect the timing of schools going back. Did anyone catch the response? I started listening but find Williamson very difficult to listen and switched off.


 



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