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johncs2016
08 November 2018 22:42:31

Further ahead

High pressure building
Chilly nights
Foggy mornings
Anticyclonic gloom

Originally Posted by: Gavin D 

">https://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/features/46147156

Looks like we have one of those "If only it were summer" scenarios coming up at the end of that period if that forecast is correct. If that was to come off, I wouldn't like to imagine what the temperatures would potentially get up to in SE England if it were the middle of July/August rather than the middle of November.

 


The north of Edinburgh, usually always missing out on snow events which occur not just within the rest of Scotland or the UK, but also within the rest of Edinburgh.

Gavin D
09 November 2018 09:47:40

BBC monthly outlook

Wednesday 7 November—Sunday 11 November

Staying mild but rain and brisk winds at times

A mild but blustery day on Wednesday with outbreaks of rain spreading slowly northwards and eastwards across the UK. The rain will be heaviest in the west and south. There will be a few bright spells, though, with the best of those in the north and east. Brisk south to south-easterly winds will gust to around 35-45mph quite widely. Highs of typically 10-14 Celsius.
On Thursday, further pulses of rain are likely to spread northwards over western parts of the UK. Meanwhile, eastern England and north-east Scotland will be often dry with some bright or sunny spells. Breezy but mild again with highs ranging from around 10 Celsius in the north to 14 Celsius in the south.

Friday will also be fairly mild but blustery with a strengthening south tosouth-easterly wind. Once again, outbreaks of rain are likely to be most widespread over western areas of the UK although some rain should reach the east later on. Unsettled and breezy at times this weekend withshower or longer spells of rain. On Saturday, the showers are likely to be heaviest in the south and west. Some of those showers could be heavy and thundery. Meanwhile, there should be sunshine at times further north and east with fewer showers. Sunday may see more widespread rain spreading from the south into parts of England and Wales later in the day but otherwise a mixture of bright spells and showers are likely.

Monday 12 November—Sunday 18 November

Mild again. Wettest in the west

Through next week, southerly winds are likely to predominate, bringing in mild conditions from southern Europe. Therefore, temperatures will be above the normal for November quite widely on most days. However, there are likely to some regional variations to the weather. Wettest and breeziest conditions are likely to be over western areas of the UK. Indeed,low pressure areas over the Atlantic are likely to bring pulses of rain northwards across some western areas of England along with Wales and Northern Ireland. Meanwhile, rainfall is likely to be occasional for central and eastern areas of the UK and also much of Scotland; these areas should see at least a few fine, dry days.

Confidence in the mild conditions is quite high but there are uncertainties over the extent of rainfall. Indeed, there are chances that high pressure builds in from the east through the second half of the week to bring more widespread dry and calmer conditions. If this happens, there would also be an elevated risk of overnight and morning fog.

Monday 19 November—Sunday 2 December

Wet in the north west but drier in the south

Through late November, winds are likely to be often from the south and west, continuing to bring rather mild conditions to the country. Any colder weather is unlikely to be prolonged or significant. Indeed, we are likely to see fewer night frosts than normal for the time of year. Low pressure areas are likely to move in from the Atlantic, being driven in along a strong jet stream at times (a ribbon of strong winds in the upper atmosphere). These low pressure areas are expected to bring frequent wet conditions to western and north-western areas of the UK. Indeed, there could be some high rainfall totals for western Scotland, Northern Ireland and in Cumbria. These areas are also likely to be windy at times. Meanwhile, rainfall should be less frequent further south and east across the country. Central and eastern areas of England are actually favoured to be less wet than normal for the time of year.

Meanwhile, temperatures are expected to be often near to above the seasonal average over much of the UK. Once again, there is some uncertainty over the extent of rainfall. Initially, there are chances of more widespread dry and calm conditions around mid-month. However, towards the end of the month and into the start of December, more widespread wet and windy, or even stormy conditions cannot be ruled out.

Next Update

We will take another look to see whether the north-west - south-east split to the weather is likely to persist and whether north-western areas are likely to continue having the wettest and windiest conditions through the coming weeks.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/outlook

Solar Cycles
09 November 2018 10:07:41
What a grim outlook +NAO pattern becoming established as we head on into next month. The worlds crappiest climate. 😏
tallyho_83
09 November 2018 10:08:45

BBC monthly outlook

Wednesday 7 November—Sunday 11 November

Staying mild but rain and brisk winds at times

A mild but blustery day on Wednesday with outbreaks of rain spreading slowly northwards and eastwards across the UK. The rain will be heaviest in the west and south. There will be a few bright spells, though, with the best of those in the north and east. Brisk south to south-easterly winds will gust to around 35-45mph quite widely. Highs of typically 10-14 Celsius.
On Thursday, further pulses of rain are likely to spread northwards over western parts of the UK. Meanwhile, eastern England and north-east Scotland will be often dry with some bright or sunny spells. Breezy but mild again with highs ranging from around 10 Celsius in the north to 14 Celsius in the south.

Friday will also be fairly mild but blustery with a strengthening south tosouth-easterly wind. Once again, outbreaks of rain are likely to be most widespread over western areas of the UK although some rain should reach the east later on. Unsettled and breezy at times this weekend withshower or longer spells of rain. On Saturday, the showers are likely to be heaviest in the south and west. Some of those showers could be heavy and thundery. Meanwhile, there should be sunshine at times further north and east with fewer showers. Sunday may see more widespread rain spreading from the south into parts of England and Wales later in the day but otherwise a mixture of bright spells and showers are likely.

Monday 12 November—Sunday 18 November

Mild again. Wettest in the west

Through next week, southerly winds are likely to predominate, bringing in mild conditions from southern Europe. Therefore, temperatures will be above the normal for November quite widely on most days. However, there are likely to some regional variations to the weather. Wettest and breeziest conditions are likely to be over western areas of the UK. Indeed,low pressure areas over the Atlantic are likely to bring pulses of rain northwards across some western areas of England along with Wales and Northern Ireland. Meanwhile, rainfall is likely to be occasional for central and eastern areas of the UK and also much of Scotland; these areas should see at least a few fine, dry days.

Confidence in the mild conditions is quite high but there are uncertainties over the extent of rainfall. Indeed, there are chances that high pressure builds in from the east through the second half of the week to bring more widespread dry and calmer conditions. If this happens, there would also be an elevated risk of overnight and morning fog.

Monday 19 November—Sunday 2 December

Wet in the north west but drier in the south

Through late November, winds are likely to be often from the south and west, continuing to bring rather mild conditions to the country. Any colder weather is unlikely to be prolonged or significant. Indeed, we are likely to see fewer night frosts than normal for the time of year. Low pressure areas are likely to move in from the Atlantic, being driven in along a strong jet stream at times (a ribbon of strong winds in the upper atmosphere). These low pressure areas are expected to bring frequent wet conditions to western and north-western areas of the UK. Indeed, there could be some high rainfall totals for western Scotland, Northern Ireland and in Cumbria. These areas are also likely to be windy at times. Meanwhile, rainfall should be less frequent further south and east across the country. Central and eastern areas of England are actually favoured to be less wet than normal for the time of year.

Meanwhile, temperatures are expected to be often near to above the seasonal average over much of the UK. Once again, there is some uncertainty over the extent of rainfall. Initially, there are chances of more widespread dry and calm conditions around mid-month. However, towards the end of the month and into the start of December, more widespread wet and windy, or even stormy conditions cannot be ruled out.

Next Update

We will take another look to see whether the north-west - south-east split to the weather is likely to persist and whether north-western areas are likely to continue having the wettest and windiest conditions through the coming weeks.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/outlook

Originally Posted by: Gavin D 

They really don';t have a clue The Once again, there is some uncertainty...." hmm..

So turning unsettled, with stormy conditions end of month now not DRIER?


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Ally Pally Snowman
09 November 2018 11:29:53

It does look like the Met Office have dropped the idea of a decent start to winter now. GLOSEA must have dropped the HLB signal big time as its quite a dramatic change from just a couple of days ago. My optimism for a cold start to winter has gone now.

 


Bishop's Stortford 85m ASL.
Gavin D
09 November 2018 12:37:44
Met office

UK Outlook for Wednesday 14 Nov 2018 to Friday 23 Nov 2018:

Wednesday is likely to be a mild day with cloud and outbreaks of rain in the north and west as well as some central areas. The southeast will be drier and brighter. Rain will tend to clear northwards on Thursday to leave a mainly dry day with variable amounts of cloud and some sunny spells. Through the end of the week mild, dry weather looks set to extend across many areas with rain confined to the northwest once more. Early mist and fog may become more prevalent across south and eastern parts, while windier conditions will reduce this risk in the northwest; overnight frosts, however, are more likely in the north. These drier than average conditions may continue through the end of the period, with temperatures gradually returning to normal.

UK Outlook for Saturday 24 Nov 2018 to Saturday 8 Dec 2018:

During the last week of November and into early December the weather will probably still be predominantly settled, although with an increased chance of some more unsettled interludes with showers or longer spells of rain spreading to many areas at times. Temperatures will generally be below average allowing for an increased chance of snow over northern hills during any unsettled spells. Lower than average temperatures will also bring a marked increase in the likelihood and extent of frosts. Any milder interludes will probably be short-lived.

https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/public/weather/forecast 

Ally Pally Snowman
09 November 2018 12:43:16

Met office

UK Outlook for Wednesday 14 Nov 2018 to Friday 23 Nov 2018:

Wednesday is likely to be a mild day with cloud and outbreaks of rain in the north and west as well as some central areas. The southeast will be drier and brighter. Rain will tend to clear northwards on Thursday to leave a mainly dry day with variable amounts of cloud and some sunny spells. Through the end of the week mild, dry weather looks set to extend across many areas with rain confined to the northwest once more. Early mist and fog may become more prevalent across south and eastern parts, while windier conditions will reduce this risk in the northwest; overnight frosts, however, are more likely in the north. These drier than average conditions may continue through the end of the period, with temperatures gradually returning to normal.

UK Outlook for Saturday 24 Nov 2018 to Saturday 8 Dec 2018:

During the last week of November and into early December the weather will probably still be predominantly settled, although with an increased chance of some more unsettled interludes with showers or longer spells of rain spreading to many areas at times. Temperatures will generally be below average allowing for an increased chance of snow over northern hills during any unsettled spells. Lower than average temperatures will also bring a marked increase in the likelihood and extent of frosts. Any milder interludes will probably be short-lived.

Originally Posted by: Gavin D 

">https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/public/weather/forecast

 

It's flipped colder again I can't keep up.

 


Bishop's Stortford 85m ASL.
tallyho_83
09 November 2018 12:56:50

">https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/public/weather/forecast

Originally Posted by: Ally Pally Snowman 

 

It's flipped colder again I can't keep up.

 

 

This will mean a milder 16-30 day out look tomorrow then from the Met office haha no one knows!?


Home Location - Vixen Tor Close, Okehampton, Devon (221m ASL)


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David M Porter
09 November 2018 13:21:00

">https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/public/weather/forecast

Originally Posted by: Ally Pally Snowman 

 

It's flipped colder again I can't keep up.

 

These forecasts are only really reflecting that the models are showing to be fair. If there is inconsistency in the model output, there will be inconsistency in these updates too, especially for further ahead.


Lenzie, Glasgow

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TomC
  • TomC
  • Advanced Member
09 November 2018 13:53:12
The BBC forecast is not from the Met Office !
tallyho_83
09 November 2018 14:20:43

Met office

UK Outlook for Saturday 24 Nov 2018 to Saturday 8 Dec 2018:

During the last week of November and into early December the weather will probably still be predominantly settled, although with an increased chance of some more unsettled interludes with showers or longer spells of rain spreading to many areas at times. Temperatures will generally be below average allowing for an increased chance of snow over northern hills during any unsettled spells. Lower than average temperatures will also bring a marked increase in the likelihood and extent of frosts. Any milder interludes will probably be short-lived.


https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/public/weather/forecast Originally Posted by: Gavin D 

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Ok thanks Met office i'll remember milder interludes to be short lived! - Noted! Now stick with above and stop changing like these models!

 


Home Location - Vixen Tor Close, Okehampton, Devon (221m ASL)


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Solar Cycles
09 November 2018 15:15:55

The BBC forecast is not from the Met Office !

Originally Posted by: TomC 

But they get their forecasts from the MetO and then dress it up/down depending on your point of view. 😎

Solar Cycles
09 November 2018 15:18:25

Met office

UK Outlook for Wednesday 14 Nov 2018 to Friday 23 Nov 2018:

Wednesday is likely to be a mild day with cloud and outbreaks of rain in the north and west as well as some central areas. The southeast will be drier and brighter. Rain will tend to clear northwards on Thursday to leave a mainly dry day with variable amounts of cloud and some sunny spells. Through the end of the week mild, dry weather looks set to extend across many areas with rain confined to the northwest once more. Early mist and fog may become more prevalent across south and eastern parts, while windier conditions will reduce this risk in the northwest; overnight frosts, however, are more likely in the north. These drier than average conditions may continue through the end of the period, with temperatures gradually returning to normal.

UK Outlook for Saturday 24 Nov 2018 to Saturday 8 Dec 2018:

During the last week of November and into early December the weather will probably still be predominantly settled, although with an increased chance of some more unsettled interludes with showers or longer spells of rain spreading to many areas at times. Temperatures will generally be below average allowing for an increased chance of snow over northern hills during any unsettled spells. Lower than average temperatures will also bring a marked increase in the likelihood and extent of frosts. Any milder interludes will probably be short-lived.

Originally Posted by: Gavin D 

Complete">https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/public/weather/forecast

 Complete opposite to the BBC, the MetO outlook here suggest a possible NW/SE jet axis in any of the unsettled periods so I would say a mid Atlantic block being the major player here.

warrenb
09 November 2018 15:37:16

But they get their forecasts from the MetO and then dress it up/down depending on your point of view. 😎

Originally Posted by: Solar Cycles 

 

BBC get their data from MeteoGroup now, and not Meto.


Ally Pally Snowman
09 November 2018 16:26:28

The BBC forecast is not from the Met Office !

Originally Posted by: TomC 

 

Yes of course my mistake,  will the Beeb forecast flip to cold soon


Bishop's Stortford 85m ASL.
Solar Cycles
09 November 2018 16:28:45

 

 

Yes of course my mistake,  will the Beeb forecast flip to cold soon

Originally Posted by: Ally Pally Snowman 

Who get their data from....... the MetO.😁

Arcus
09 November 2018 16:47:28

From an RT interview earlier in the year:

 

"...[MeteoGroup] are not actually doing all the climate crunching. The company buys in data from other groups of forecasting experts, and refines it for the BBC’s national and regional weather bulletins.

What sort of groups?

Well, they still include the Met Office, along with their equivalents in the Netherlands and Germany, but their key provider is the European Centre for Medium-Range Weather Forecasts, based in Reading, Berkshire. “Their weather model is consistently the best,” says MeteoGroup forecasting manager Paul Knightley, “but we pick a model that looks the best on the day and try to improve on it.”

 

https://www.radiotimes.com/news/tv/2018-09-10/how-are-bbc-weather-forecasts-made/

 


Ben,

Nr. Easingwold, North Yorkshire

30m asl

Gavin D
09 November 2018 21:52:57
Further ahead

High pressure building

Chilly nights

Foggy mornings

https://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/features/46159459 

Gavin D
10 November 2018 12:24:58
Met office

UK Outlook for Thursday 15 Nov 2018 to Saturday 24 Nov 2018:

Mostly dry on Thursday, but quite cloudy for some with the best of the bright or sunny spells in the southeast and to the lee of high ground. Rain may persist in the far northwest for a time. Overnight mist and fog patches are possible which will be slow to clear on Friday morning. Through the end of the week mild, dry weather looks set to extend across many areas with rain confined to northwestern parts. Early mist and fog may become more prevalent across the south and eastern, while windier conditions will reduce this risk in the northwest. However, there is a greater chance for overnight frosts in the north. These drier than average conditions may continue through the end of the period, with temperatures gradually returning to normal.

UK Outlook for Sunday 25 Nov 2018 to Sunday 9 Dec 2018:

During the last week of November and into early December the weather will probably still be predominantly settled, although with an increased chance of some more unsettled interludes with showers or longer spells of rain spreading to many areas at times. Temperatures will generally be below average allowing for an increased chance of snow over northern hills during any unsettled spells. Lower than average temperatures will also bring a marked increase in the likelihood and extent of frosts. Any milder interludes will probably be short-lived.

https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/public/weather/forecast 

David M Porter
10 November 2018 17:33:32

Met office

UK Outlook for Thursday 15 Nov 2018 to Saturday 24 Nov 2018:

Mostly dry on Thursday, but quite cloudy for some with the best of the bright or sunny spells in the southeast and to the lee of high ground. Rain may persist in the far northwest for a time. Overnight mist and fog patches are possible which will be slow to clear on Friday morning. Through the end of the week mild, dry weather looks set to extend across many areas with rain confined to northwestern parts. Early mist and fog may become more prevalent across the south and eastern, while windier conditions will reduce this risk in the northwest. However, there is a greater chance for overnight frosts in the north. These drier than average conditions may continue through the end of the period, with temperatures gradually returning to normal.

UK Outlook for Sunday 25 Nov 2018 to Sunday 9 Dec 2018:

During the last week of November and into early December the weather will probably still be predominantly settled, although with an increased chance of some more unsettled interludes with showers or longer spells of rain spreading to many areas at times. Temperatures will generally be below average allowing for an increased chance of snow over northern hills during any unsettled spells. Lower than average temperatures will also bring a marked increase in the likelihood and extent of frosts. Any milder interludes will probably be short-lived.

https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/public/weather/forecast

Originally Posted by: Gavin D 

Sounds a reasonable forecast to me. I have read worse at this time of the year.


Lenzie, Glasgow

"A body of men holding themselves accountable to nobody ought not to be trusted by anybody." – Thomas Paine

Gavin D
10 November 2018 17:54:05
Into next weekend

Generally dry

Murky mornings

Mild at first

Perhaps turning chilly later

https://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/features/46165166 

Gavin D
11 November 2018 12:28:26
Met office

UK Outlook for Friday 16 Nov 2018 to Sunday 25 Nov 2018:

Friday and the weekend look mostly dry with variable, sometimes large amounts of cloud, with the brightest conditions likely to the north of high ground and possibly more generally across northern and north-eastern parts of the British Isles. Overnight mist and fog patches are possible, which could be slow to clear. The only exception will be western Scotland and perhaps parts of Northern Ireland which may see some wet and windy weather, chiefly at first. After a locally chilly start, daytime temperatures will again be mild. During the following week little change is expected to the weather. The far west and northwest could have some patchy rain, whilst the majority hold onto settled conditions. However, a general drop in temperature is forecast, with an increasing risk of night frost.

UK Outlook for Monday 26 Nov 2018 to Monday 10 Dec 2018:

This period is likely to begin with a continuation of the mainly dry conditions, with variable cloud and some sunshine, once morning fog patches clear. However, there will be an increasing chance of some more unsettled interludes developing, with showers or longer spells of rain spreading to many areas at times. Temperatures are likely to be below average overall, with a marked increase in the likelihood and extent of frosts. These colder conditions will be accompanied by an increased chance of snow, particularly for northern hills, during any spells of more unsettled weather.

https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/public/weather/forecast 

Gavin D
11 November 2018 20:58:53
Next weekend and beyond

Mostly dry

Low cloud and fog

Some sunshine

Perhaps turning cooler

https://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/features/46171246 

DEW
  • DEW
  • Advanced Member
11 November 2018 22:50:53

Weather for the week ahead went so far as to suggest an easterly in 10 days or so - but "not a very cold" one


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Gavin D
12 November 2018 12:16:39
Met office

UK Outlook for Saturday 17 Nov 2018 to Monday 26 Nov 2018:

Both Saturday and Sunday look mostly dry with variable, sometimes large amounts of cloud, with the brightest conditions likely to the north of high ground and possibly more generally across northern and north-eastern parts of the British Isles. By Sunday some sunny breaks may also develop across the southeast. Under clearer skies, some overnight mist and fog patches are possible, which could be slow to clear. During the following week and into the last week of November, the generally dry but often cloudy conditions are likely to persist, with only the far west and northwest at risk of having any patchy rain. Temperatures will be above average at first, but will probably become rather cold later in the period, with an increasing risk of overnight frost.

UK Outlook for Tuesday 27 Nov 2018 to Tuesday 11 Dec 2018:

This period is likely to begin with a continuation of the mainly dry conditions, with variable cloud and some sunshine, once morning fog patches clear. However, there will be an increasing chance of some more unsettled interludes developing, with showers or longer spells of rain spreading to many areas at times. Temperatures are likely to be below average overall, with a marked increase in the likelihood and extent of frosts, with any milder interludes likely to be short lived. With more generally colder temperatures, there will be an increased chance of snow, particularly for northern hills, during spells of more unsettled weather.

https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/public/weather/forecast 

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