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AIMSIR
07 June 2015 16:25:40

It's a different world up there.
An amazing shot.

Solar Cycles
07 June 2015 16:38:34

http://www.winterhighland.info/forum/file.php?2,file=10774

This is Aonach Mor on 3rd June (from Winter Highland).

Originally Posted by: Norseman 

I've never seen that much snow lingering up there at this time of year. I look forward to the summer Scottish snow conditions thread this year.😁

Essan
07 June 2015 18:04:09

I've never seen that much snow lingering up there at this time of year. I look forward to the summer Scottish snow conditions thread this year.😁

Originally Posted by: Solar Cycles 



I have.   I think the picture is deceptive.  And in any case IMO snow patches will not last as long as they did last year.

There was no more snow lingering in north Perthshire when I was up there last month than normal.

 


Andy

Evesham, Worcs, Albion - 35m asl

Weather & Earth Science News 

Look in the doubt we've wallowed, look at the leaders we've followed, look at the lies we've swallowed, and I don't want to hear no more

Solar Cycles
07 June 2015 18:16:36



I have.   I think the picture is deceptive.  And in any case IMO snow patches will not last as long as they did last year.

There was no more snow lingering in north Perthshire when I was up there last month than normal.

 

Originally Posted by: Essan 

Well unless your longe range metrology skills have improved I don't know how you can say that.😜

I think there's every good chance this year will do just as well providing we see favourable conditions. It's been an amazing few years for the Scottish mountains and takes me back to the late 70s early 80s since we last saw something similar. 

Norseman
07 June 2015 18:40:27
More snow has made it through to June this year than last partly due to the more Westerly winds in Winter and the much colder May. Not so in the Eastern Grampians. In Highland Perthshire there are large wreaths and cornices on some Eastern and NE slopes that were not there at this time last year. For example on Creigan Na Beinn and Meall Corrannich plus some of the Glenlyon hills. Last year those just failed to make the snow survey date in August. Will they make it this year?
Essan
07 June 2015 18:58:18

I am just going by what I have seen, which IMO is not exceptional. 

But we will see what happens come summer


Andy

Evesham, Worcs, Albion - 35m asl

Weather & Earth Science News 

Look in the doubt we've wallowed, look at the leaders we've followed, look at the lies we've swallowed, and I don't want to hear no more

Solar Cycles
07 June 2015 19:04:00

I am just going by what I have seen, which IMO is not exceptional. 

But we will see what happens come summer

Originally Posted by: Essan 

Fair enough Andy.

Solar Cycles
07 June 2015 19:05:10

More snow has made it through to June this year than last partly due to the more Westerly winds in Winter and the much colder May. Not so in the Eastern Grampians. In Highland Perthshire there are large wreaths and cornices on some Eastern and NE slopes that were not there at this time last year. For example on Creigan Na Beinn and Meall Corrannich plus some of the Glenlyon hills. Last year those just failed to make the snow survey date in August. Will they make it this year?

Originally Posted by: Norseman 

Cheers for the info Norsemen.

Norseman
07 June 2015 21:13:16

Snow survival will depend on how much warmth and rainfall there is in Summer but also crucially on how soon next years lasting snow comes. Last Winter the Summer was mild and lasting snow came late so despite there being lots of snow a lot of patches melted in early Autumn. There were still the most survivals for some years. We will have to wait and see what happens this year though Westerly winds this Winter should help as did last years South Westerlies.

Solar Cycles
07 June 2015 23:03:14

Snow survival will depend on how much warmth and rainfall there is in Summer but also crucially on how soon next years lasting snow comes. Last Winter the Summer was mild and lasting snow came late so despite there being lots of snow a lot of patches melted in early Autumn. There were still the most survivals for some years. We will have to wait and see what happens this year though Westerly winds this Winter should help as did last years South Westerlies.

Originally Posted by: Norseman 

Yes it was quite disappointing the thaw that came in Autumn after such a good summer for snow patches, here's to another fascinating summer snow patch watch.

AIMSIR
08 June 2015 00:53:42

I remember hearing about a winter with snow from the Southwest as being the best for long lasting patches as the majority of the snow is dumped.or falls out over the mountains, on North or East facing slopes.

Essan
08 June 2015 07:02:59

I remember hearing about a winter with snow from the Southwest as being the best for long lasting patches as the majority of the snow is dumped.or falls out over the mountains, on North or East facing slopes.

Originally Posted by: AIMSIR 



Aye, thats why we had so much survive last year, despite it being quite a mild winter


Andy

Evesham, Worcs, Albion - 35m asl

Weather & Earth Science News 

Look in the doubt we've wallowed, look at the leaders we've followed, look at the lies we've swallowed, and I don't want to hear no more

Norseman
19 June 2015 20:54:58

Strong SW winds persisting throughout the Winter 13/14 with frequent storms blew loads of snow into the NE facing corries. Temps were around 1C above average throughout the Winter but there were no extremes or big thaws so snow fell above around 700 mtrs asl all Winter [except for a short spell in December 2013]. As rainfall was well above average this led to huge drifts.

Some similarity this year though winds a bit more Westerly.A cooler late Spring has also helpedpreserve the snow this year.

Here is a patch stuck in a fissure on the Shee of Artalnaig, a Graham[hill 2000-2500 feet] South of Loch Tay this week.

Norseman
20 June 2015 08:51:47

 

For those interested the last remaining snow in England & Wales melted last week, a day later than last year, at Brown Cove on Hellvellyn. No snow made it to June apparently in Wales.

doctormog
21 June 2015 12:53:06
I think I would have more luck skiing on Midsummer's weekend than having a BBQ.

This was Glencoe yesterday (20th June)

http://www.winterhighland.info/pix/displayimage.php?photo_id=32253 


AIMSIR
21 June 2015 13:15:04

looking good enough.

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Norseman
01 July 2015 21:21:24

Quite a difference in a week to the visible patches in the Lawers / Glenlyon areas in Perthshire especially lower and where exposed to the sun but still more than usual [and even more than last year] making it to July. Am heading up to Inverness on Saturday so will be interesting to compare with what was visible the last time I was there around a fortnight ago.

 

bledur
02 July 2015 17:41:01

Quite a difference in a week to the visible patches in the Lawers / Glenlyon areas in Perthshire especially lower and where exposed to the sun but still more than usual [and even more than last year] making it to July. Am heading up to Inverness on Saturday so will be interesting to compare with what was visible the last time I was there around a fortnight ago.

 

Originally Posted by: Norseman 

Just back from Strath Oykel in Sutherland and there was more snow on Ben More Assynt than i have ever  seen on the 1st July.

Norseman
13 July 2015 14:25:10

I have just comeback from a week in the NW and Islands. I also can't remember as much snow North of Inverness in July, especially near Beinn Dearg and Sgurr Mor to the West of Loch Glascarnoch.
Heading South it looks like less snow than usual on Cairngorm, at least at the Cas Headwall and Coire Na Ciste and further down at Can Na Caim. There are however numerous patches on East facing slopes that don't often make July right down into Perthshire.

 

 

 

 

 

Norseman
26 July 2015 16:51:58
Snow reported as falling but not lying at the summit of Ben Nevis yesterday. Possibly more midweek. Very unusual in late July. If new snow were to lie next week it would be the first reported in the last week of July. Meanwhile huge numbers of old snow patches going to make it to August throughout the Highlands. If cool weather continues the annual snow survey on 21st August may be pretty difficult to organise this year.
Norseman
28 July 2015 13:42:17

Following on from the reported falling snow on Ben Nevis a few days ago forecasts are showing a possibility of not only falling but lying snow on the highest Cairngorms summits on Thursday with temps at least for a time being sub zero above 1300 mtrs with showers around.
A degree or so higher in the West with fewer showers but falling snow also possible in the Nevis range.

 

Here today it is cloudy with rain at times at 11C.sealed

Viking3
30 July 2015 07:51:00

The Met Office Cairngorm weather station is back on line after many months, and its return has coincided with the arrival of the coldest air of this chilly month so far. The latest temperature is -0.9C with a 25 knot NW-ly wind. Latest radar images show some light echoes across the Highlands although most of the shower activity has died away now, so it's just possible that there may be a dusting of snow on the very highest tops above 1200m.

 


Keith

Aboyne, Aberdeenshire

135m asl

JHutch
15 August 2015 10:46:57

Snow reported as falling but not lying at the summit of Ben Nevis yesterday. Possibly more midweek. Very unusual in late July. If new snow were to lie next week it would be the first reported in the last week of July. Meanwhile huge numbers of old snow patches going to make it to August throughout the Highlands. If cool weather continues the annual snow survey on 21st August may be pretty difficult to organise this year.

Originally Posted by: Norseman 

 

Yes, a lot of snow patches to scout out this year.

Several snow patches still visible on the glencoe ski webcams at the moment

http://www.glencoemountain.co.uk/webcams.html

 There is a facebook group now too

https://www.facebook.com/groups/snowpatchesscotland/?fref=ts

 

Norseman
16 August 2015 19:31:09

I was up in Highland Perthsire last week and saw numerous snow patches on hills which often don't make July never mind mid August. This snow bridge is on An Stuc in the Lawers range from the P & J.

http://www.pressandjournal.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2015/08/SnowTunnel-6.jpg 

The annual late August snow patch count is next weekend. Going to be really difficult with many patches surviving all the way from the North West Highlands to Perthshire. Last year was exceptional but the numbers counted will be dwarfed by this year.

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