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tallyho_83
Thursday, March 15, 2018 7:12:44 PM

I don't know about you but this is a big upgrade: - BBC SW SPotlight weather - snow and strong winds Saturday night into Sunday and snow lasting until mid afternoon = = blizzards?!

Interesting how the GFS isn't picking up on snowfall accumulations but we are 3 days out is that why? maybe within the next couple runs they should start showing something!?

 


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tallyho_83
Thursday, March 15, 2018 7:27:28 PM

Looks like i have taken over this Thread:

Just watching the update by Aidan McGivern: - I think this button switch was playing up when he wanted change/ run the graphics sequence or is it me!?

https://youtu.be/o6uypyYw3Co

 


Home Location - Vixen Tor Close, Okehampton, Devon (221m ASL)

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Sean Moon

Magical Moon

www.magical-moon.com

Whiteout
Friday, March 16, 2018 10:13:20 AM

Saturday's yellow warning area widened, Amber warning coming...


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IanT
  • IanT
  • Advanced Member
Friday, March 16, 2018 10:48:46 AM
Is there a reason why the Met Office no longer show the time/date that a particular warning was issued or updated? I found that information useful.
Woking, Surrey. 40m asl.
Arcus
Friday, March 16, 2018 10:55:22 AM

Is there a reason why the Met Office no longer show the time/date that a particular warning was issued or updated? I found that information useful.

Originally Posted by: IanT 

They do, but you need to use the site designed for mobiles/tablets:

https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/mobile

 

Navigate to warnings, then click on the warning area on the map. The click further details, and you get a date/time of issue - e.g.

https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/mobile/warnings#?date=2018-03-17&id=c753b38e-9a8e-20af-bd22-2c0b55d1ddf8&details

 

 


Ben,

Nr. Easingwold, North Yorkshire

30m asl

jhall
Friday, March 16, 2018 10:56:54 AM

Saturday's yellow warning area widened, Amber warning coming...

Originally Posted by: Whiteout 

A couple of amber warnings for late Saturday / early Sunday now up on the Met Office's website, one for the north Midlands and one for a Thames streamer.


Cranleigh, Surrey
Fargo
Friday, March 16, 2018 10:57:40 AM
I find the met office warnings consistently useless here. We have had two incredibly severe spells of weather that enormously affected transport and infrastructure (including large towns and cities) in the SW midlands and Eastern Wales with negligible or inadequate warnings. Why on Earth was the red warning a couple of weeks ago not extended to Herefordshire and Mid Wales while all major A road routes were completely blocked? The yellow warning this weekend barely extends into Wales. We'll see!
West Oxfordshire 230m asl
soperman
Friday, March 16, 2018 11:17:25 AM

Well I wasn't expecting an Amber warning for anywhere and we're in it!

Just goes to show how far behind the curve the BBC are - this morning Matt was playing down the snow oblivious to the fact that the Met Office were about to issue Ambers.

No longer astounded by this - sometimes Meteogroup will be right and sometimes the Met Office will be but I know wher I will always look for forecasts.

 


Happily living by the sea in Brixham......but sad to leave the snowy Chiltern Hills after 35 years!
Arcus
Friday, March 16, 2018 11:46:11 AM
Looks like the UK has contracted something nasty on the MetO Saturday warnings map. Don't think I've seen 9 separate warnings issued for one day before.
Ben,

Nr. Easingwold, North Yorkshire

30m asl

IanT
  • IanT
  • Advanced Member
Friday, March 16, 2018 11:48:14 AM

 

They do, but you need to use the site designed for mobiles/tablets:

https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/mobile

 

Navigate to warnings, then click on the warning area on the map. The click further details, and you get a date/time of issue - e.g.

https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/mobile/warnings#?date=2018-03-17&id=c753b38e-9a8e-20af-bd22-2c0b55d1ddf8&details

 

Originally Posted by: Arcus 

 

Thank you. The ipad app shows this information as well. Strange that it isn’t on the website, but there you go.

It’s shown me that the upgrade to amber for tomorrow was issued this morning at 10:18. As others have posted, an interesting divergence between the MetO and BBC views of tomorrow.


Woking, Surrey. 40m asl.
Brian Gaze
Friday, March 16, 2018 11:58:04 AM

Well I wasn't expecting an Amber warning for anywhere and we're in it!

Just goes to show how far behind the curve the BBC are - this morning Matt was playing down the snow oblivious to the fact that the Met Office were about to issue Ambers.

No longer astounded by this - sometimes Meteogroup will be right and sometimes the Met Office will be but I know wher I will always look for forecasts.

 

Originally Posted by: soperman 

The Chiltern regions is covered by a yellow not amber warning as far as I can see.

Edit: Although I know the Met seem to have atrocious problems with inconsistent caching across their different channels so one of us could be looking at an older update.


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eddied
Friday, March 16, 2018 12:08:04 PM

 

The Chiltern regions is covered by a yellow not amber warning as far as I can see.

Edit: Although I know the Met seem to have atrocious problems with inconsistent caching across their different channels so one of us could be looking at an older update.

Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 

 

I get that too - also on the mobile site. Would be consistent with a Thames streamer so I think the non-Chilterns version is right.

 


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Max snow depths: 6cm (December 19th ish)

Summer 2022 max 39C on July 19th

Summer 2021 max: 32C on July 18th

Summer 2020 max: 36C on July 31st

lanky
Friday, March 16, 2018 12:35:46 PM

Looks like the UK has contracted something nasty on the MetO Saturday warnings map. Don't think I've seen 9 separate warnings issued for one day before.

Originally Posted by: Arcus 

I just had a look at the BBC teletext pages for Met Office weather warnings

It is currently running to 34 pages of text for Friday to Monday

I have strong doubts whether this amount of regional and daily detail is of much use - and it didn't seem to contain the amber warnings either


Martin

Richmond, Surrey

Gavin D
Friday, March 16, 2018 2:05:14 PM
Met office

UK Outlook for Wednesday 21 Mar 2018 to Friday 30 Mar 2018:

There will be a frosty start for some on Wednesday, especially in the east. Otherwise it will be a largely dry day with sunny spells for many before strong winds and a band of rain pushes into the northwest later. This band of cloud and rain will then spread across all parts on Thursday, followed by blustery showers in the west. Low pressure is then likely to be in charge of our weather for the rest of the period bringing spells of rain, especially across the south and southwest. Inbetween spells of rain there will be some drier, brighter and colder interludes. After a cold start to this period, temperatures will tend to recover before it then turns rather cold from the west again later, giving a chance of frost.

UK Outlook for Saturday 31 Mar 2018 to Saturday 14 Apr 2018:

There is significant uncertainty in the forecast throughout this period, but a blocked or slowly changing weather pattern is probable. There will most likely be a balance between Atlantic frontal systems affecting the south and west at times with colder air associated with high pressure out to the northeast. Mixed conditions are likely with wetter than average conditions expected across the south, while staying drier and perhaps colder to the north. Further snow is possible, especially in the north where it will also be windy at times. Temperatures will likely be below average with further night frosts, and any milder interludes will probably be only brief.

https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/public/weather/forecast 

Gavin D
Friday, March 16, 2018 5:09:24 PM
Outlook

Turning less cold

Unsettled

Wet and windy at times

https://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/features/43424667 

SEMerc
Friday, March 16, 2018 5:22:26 PM

Just in case it hasn't already been posted, an amber warning is now out from Cornwall up through S Wales - effective Sunday.

https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/public/weather/warnings#?date=2018-03-18

jhall
Friday, March 16, 2018 6:01:48 PM

Well I wasn't expecting an Amber warning for anywhere and we're in it!

Just goes to show how far behind the curve the BBC are - this morning Matt was playing down the snow oblivious to the fact that the Met Office were about to issue Ambers.

No longer astounded by this - sometimes Meteogroup will be right and sometimes the Met Office will be but I know wher I will always look for forecasts.

 

Originally Posted by: soperman 

When I heard him talking about "snow flurries" I did wonder if he knew what a snow flurry was.


Cranleigh, Surrey
PFCSCOTTY
Friday, March 16, 2018 7:12:17 PM
Philip Avery on radio 4 at 1800... " every bit as severe as the last easterly of a couple of weeks ago"

Local BBC radio here in the south " it will be nothing like as severe as the last event "

Whether Idle
Friday, March 16, 2018 8:22:17 PM

Philip Avery on radio 4 at 1800... " every bit as severe as the last easterly of a couple of weeks ago"

Local BBC radio here in the south " it will be nothing like as severe as the last event "

Originally Posted by: PFCSCOTTY 

Just as its a case of choose your model (they are all different re snow) its also a case of choose your bbc forecast.

Radar watch is the only way.


Dover, 5m asl. Half a mile from the south coast.
tallyho_83
Friday, March 16, 2018 10:31:45 PM

Met Office has updated the snow potential for the SW (Exeter on Sunday) from this:

 

TO THIS:

 


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Magical Moon

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John p
Friday, March 16, 2018 10:37:11 PM
I know it’s been said before, but the new BBC graphics really are a disaster - you just cannot distinguish between cloud and snow.
Camberley, Surrey
nsrobins
Friday, March 16, 2018 10:50:59 PM

I know it’s been said before, but the new BBC graphics really are a disaster - you just cannot distinguish between cloud and snow.

Originally Posted by: John p 

I’m more concerned about the often stark disparity between Meteogroup and UKM forecasts than the graphics. I almost got the feeling Matt Taylor in a forecast earlier today was really struggling with matching what was being depicted on the graphics behind him and what he wanted to say based on his understanding as a meteorologist.

To the majority of Joe Public nothing is really going on but to me I find the current situation with the BBC’s provider often differing from the UKM as all rather sad.


Neil

Fareham, Hampshire 28m ASL (near estuary)

Stormchaser, Member TORRO

Joe Bloggs
Friday, March 16, 2018 10:57:23 PM

 

I’m more concerned about the often stark disparity between Meteogroup and UKM forecasts than the graphics. I almost got the feeling Matt Taylor in a forecast earlier today was really struggling with matching what was being depicted on the graphics behind him and what he wanted to say based on his understanding as a meteorologist.

To the majority of Joe Public nothing is really going on but to me I find the current situation with the BBC’s provider often differing from the UKM as all rather sad.

Originally Posted by: nsrobins 

Totally agree. 

tallyho_83
Friday, March 16, 2018 11:08:42 PM

I know it’s been said before, but the new BBC graphics really are a disaster - you just cannot distinguish between cloud and snow.

Originally Posted by: John p 

Tell me about it! It's the same for Frost as it is for fog and cloud etc! In fact Philip Avery actually said verbally in his BBC 1 forecast at 1035pm "I'll just take away the cloud cover graphics so you can see the snow!"

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Home Location - Vixen Tor Close, Okehampton, Devon (221m ASL)

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Sean Moon

Magical Moon

www.magical-moon.com

David M Porter
Saturday, March 17, 2018 10:20:19 AM

I wonder what the chances are of the Beeb's contract with Meteociel being terminated early and them joining up with the MetO again.

These new maps are a total joke IMO.


Lenzie, Glasgow

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